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Is America To Blame For The Violence In The Middle East?

mohomoho Posts: 541
edited July 2007 in A Moving Train
Simple question, I want opinions. I think as a non-american it is easy for me and other non-americans to ignore White House spin in favour of facts. I am not influenced by either American liberal views or conservative views.

Peronally (I want your opinions not a retaliation to mine ;) ) i think that prior to 9/11 Al Queda was mimimal and totally insignificnt in influence over the Muslim population of the world. The retaliation to 9/11 has just fuelled more support for the radical anti-west views of Al Queda. Not only this but I think continuous American support for Isreal has heightened the support for radical Islamic groups in Palestine and Jordan.

The Mess in Iraq has failed to root out terror. It's like killing one ant, the rest come to the funeral. If Bush is so influenced by the bible, shouldn't the christian view of 'turn the opposite cheek' not be adhered to? I am not in anyway religious, but this is common sense in our world which should have learnt from past experience that War fails miserably unless the cause is clear

World War One was pointless. Vietnam.. well we know about that etc.

World War 2 was a clear objective, Nazi Germany wa expanding illegally and with horrific effect. It had to be stped for the survival of freedom.

9/11 was an attack that happened due to severe security defficiency. American soil was not, in any way, under threat. Freedom was most definitely NOT under threat. (that republican line is utterly pointless. who's freedom is under threat? the fat guy in his massive fuel gussling SUV eating a big mac and listening to Bon Jovi? If America hadn't had invaded Afgahnistan and Iraq, would Osama Bin Laden would have been sleeping in his bed when he got home? Osama: 'No more big mac's for you!')

Sadam had nothing to do with extreme islamic terrorists or views. Most people ignored and now forget the fact that Iraq was pretty moderate prior to the invasion. There were no Weapons of Mass Dissaperance after all.

Anyway, enough ranting, I know this topic is discussed day in day out... BUT I just want to know the straight answer to the topic's question.

Thanks

EDIT: My question is unclear. I mean there was always violence in the middle east, what i mean is Is america to blame for the rise in Extreme Islamic Terrorism in Iraq and the whole world over really, not just the middle east but asia and the UK etc. too.
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  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    no
    d'oh!!!!!!

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  • monkey spankermonkey spanker Posts: 283
    they've been fighting over there since the beginning of time. long before there was an america.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I think we are blinded by our arrogance and make the assumption that:
    A. Everyone in the world wants to be like us...
    OR...
    B. If everyone was like us, there wouldn't be anymore major problems out there.
    ...
    So, we go trapsing off on these little adventures, believing that if we 'Spread Democracy' to everyone, the world would be a better place for American Interests to flourish. That's what the Project For The New American Century is all about. To build a better world for America.
    ...
    It's all pretty simple.... Why don't the stupid foriegner scum get it?
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Partial blame? Of course. The US has contributed in a variety of ways intentionally and non intentionally. The US policies in the region have certainly contributed to violence and some of the hatred of the US/Israel

    Essentially the bulk of the violence stems from cultural differences, but I don't see how anyone could not place some of the blame from the current violence on US policy.

    Ultimately I think the US is usually the big kid on the block rather than the great satan, it just depends on the leadership and the execution of foreign policy. Lately it's left a lot to be desired. Once this old guard of nation builders are finally wrenched from power I think you'll begin to see a shift in policy...well I hope so anyway.


    I seriously doubt that the majority of muslims are all that violent even now the same with the majority of jews in Israel...Americans in the US etc. It's always the fundamentalists....unwilling to compromise angry groups of people who continually cause problems... depending on whose propaganda one buys is what general side they could fall on but most people generally want to live and let live and it's when forces start acting on them to make them uncomfortable or screw up thier routine that they get upset and vitrulent.
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  • yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
    Is America To Blame For The Violence In The Middle East?

    Nope...
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    The question should be, Do Americans perpetrate violence in the Middle East? The answer is yes, and it has been so for quite a few years.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    No-one's mentioned Lord Balfour.


    (Usually someone passes the buck.)


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  • MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,140
    moho wrote:
    EDIT: My question is unclear. I mean there was always violence in the middle east, what i mean is Is america to blame for the rise in Extreme Islamic Terrorism in Iraq and the whole world over really, not just the middle east but asia and the UK etc. too.


    The USA, Israel, and Saudi Arabia are to blame for the new hatred of the West.
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  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    theres been a trend of the US being involved in wars on foreign soil long before the middle east, places like vietnam, venezuela, cuba, korea - regardless of what side they were on i think your nations armed forces being present will lead to resentment

    so with that in mind (and all other things considered - middle eastern history and US involvement in 80's and support of Iraq during Iran war etc etc), i say YES. DEFINITELY :)
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,749
    fuck no.............
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  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    Yes. Our desire for absolute right to purchasing oil from the region has lead to numerous bad decision for decades that have directly led to violence in the Middle East. As for the tired "there has always been violence there" -- please name the region of the world where this isnt true. Thanks.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Yes. Our desire for absolute right to purchasing oil from the region has lead to numerous bad decision for decades that have directly led to violence in the Middle East. As for the tired "there has always been violence there" -- please name the region of the world where this isnt true. Thanks.

    When did the current US caused violence start? Which time period represented the peaceful period before the US caused era of violence in the Middle East?
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    The question should be. Are the powers that are controlling the US executing a hidden agenda on us in the name of terrorism.

    I think they are. I call bullshit.
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