china and india - what do you think
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i am an indian student living in singapore, which is 75% chinese. if singaporeans are anything to go by the china is going to be awesome. but thats what i feel. i want to know your opinions. please answer the following questions.
which is these do do you think will become an economic superpower sooner?
which of these two do you think poses greater military danger?
which country do you personally prefer??
which people (indian/chinese) do you prefer??
who do you think is better on human rights - dont forget the caste system in india.
which of these two can/will challenge usa/europe/russia
which is these do do you think will become an economic superpower sooner?
which of these two do you think poses greater military danger?
which country do you personally prefer??
which people (indian/chinese) do you prefer??
who do you think is better on human rights - dont forget the caste system in india.
which of these two can/will challenge usa/europe/russia
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which of these two do you think poses greater military danger?
I think China could potentially pose a greater danger, but whether it poses a greater danger than India right now, I can't say.
which country do you personally prefer??
Difficult question? Do you mean politics, nature, lifestyle, mindset?
which people (indian/chinese) do you prefer??
I like everyone! I'm sure there are plenty of Chinese jerks and plenty of Indian jerks as well. I've had good experiences with both Chinese and Indian, though.
who do you think is better on human rights - dont forget the caste system in india.
I don't know, but they both could do a lot better, that's for sure.
which of these two can/will challenge usa/europe/russia
No idea.
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politics, nature, lifestyle, mindset - well i assume everyone in the "free world" would prefer india over china politically. nature??? depends. both countries have incredible sights.
so that leaves mindset and lifestyle. please comment on both. also whats your preference in women - indian or chinese (i'll go for the latter anyday).
a thread that compares these two countries would attract more responses i thought.
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I'd love to visit China and Indian for their beauty. I might get a chance to visit India, I met an Indian in Canada (he was staying with his son-in-law) and he said I was always welcome, we still correspond occasionally.
Mindset, well both countries have, at least so it seems to me, a very different mindset than the Western mindset. You can only talk in generalization, though, when you talk about mindsets of country especially countries the size of China and India. And I have never been to China or India so I cannot really comment on that. All that I know of a "Chinese" mindset or a "Indian" mindset is based on my experiences with those people, which have been good so far. Although, Indians seem to be more hospitable to me. But this is based an the small number of people I've met from both countries.
Women, I like them all.
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China.
Which of these two do you think poses greater military danger?
China (globally), India (to Pakistan).
Which country do you personally prefer??
I don't have problem with either being the Global Middle Class. I have no preference.
Which people (indian/chinese) do you prefer??
Again, no preference. I've met some great people from both countries... as well as some real assholes from both. This also holds true for me with America, Mexico and Canada. I have yet to meet an person from England, Ireland, Austrailia or Argentina that was an asshole.
Who do you think is better on human rights - dont forget the caste system in india.
India... based on the well documented human rights violations commited by Communist (yes, China is STILL Communist, kiddies) China.
Which of these two can/will challenge usa/europe/russia?
China. They have Economic power, industrial potential and a military that can field over 1 bilion soldiers.
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But, I can see China as an aggressor... probably for resources. I can see them going after the Russian oil reserves in Siberia, or taking over the Western Stock Markets. China just seems to outweigh India on the greed factor.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I'll second this point. Something about the Chinese mindset makes me think they'd be more prone to militant expansionism in general. India has a bug up its arse about Pakistan, but it basically ends there.
Exactly. I mean, I just cant' picture India wanting to expand their influence (except, as you said, with Pakistan). But, fucking China... I think they still feel they have a score to settle with Japan. And I can definately see them wanting to expand their influence.
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All the bluster about military force with Taiwan, Tibet, and other autonomous regions ... They have a shoddy, shoddy humans rights record, even compared to India's caste system ... Even the cardboard dumplings ... One wonders if having too many people starts to mean that many are disposable.
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A danger to who? To the U.S? Neither.
In what respect? I've been to India - just two weeks in Goa - and have spent the past 3 months in China. Both country's have their ups and downs. I'd say India has better beaches and better beer. Though China has more variation as it's obviously far bigger and diverse. There's more poverty in India.
Impossible to generalise. Both the Indians and Chinese are very friendly.
Probably India.
Probably China more then India.
So what exactly are you asking for? What exactly do you want to know, and why?
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--China is already an economic superpower.
which of these two do you think poses greater military danger?
--India, because India see itself as the emerging proWestern country of the region and feels it has the complete support of the U.S. (which is currently selling it arms and nuclear technology) and NATO backing. India is also pursuing a space missile program. India's ego, in believing it is a superpower and backed by a superpower will allow it to go on a direct offensive against Pakistan.
which country do you personally prefer??
--they both offer spectacular cultural experiences
which people (indian/chinese) do you prefer??
--no personal preference, people are people
who do you think is better on human rights - don't forget the caste system in india.
--There is no 'better' side of human rights violations.
which of these two can/will challenge usa/europe/russia
--challenge how? economically, Neither, both India and China are an integral part of globalized market and are interdependent on that market.
--challenge how? militarily, Neither, China has always maintain a strong military force and has the advantage of more manpower, which continues to make it a superpower. India, even though it has nuclear capability, their threat is only seen as regional, unlike China.
--challenge how? Socially, China has the advantage as being readily acceptable worldwide as it has been on the world stage due to its Communist agenda and its favored nation status. India is more readily acceptable to europeans.
The Chinese mindset?
Fuck me! Could we possibly generalise anymore? This thread is seriously running the risk of being ridiculous.
Still, this is pretty fucked up...
Saturday, 21 June 2008
India baby girl deaths 'increase'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7466916.stm
'The number of girls born and surviving in India has hit an all time low compared to boys, ActionAid says.
A report by the UK charity says increasing numbers of female foetuses were being aborted and baby girls deliberately neglected and left to die.
In one site in the Punjab state, there are just 300 girls to every 1,000 boys among higher caste families, it says.
ActionAid says India faces a "bleak" future if it does not end its practice of cultural preference for boys.
ActionAid teamed up with Canada's International Development Research Centre (IDRC) to produce the Disappearing Daughters report.
More than 6,000 households in sites across five states in north-western India were interviewed and statistical comparisons were made with national census date.
Under "normal" circumstances, there should be about 950 girls for every 1,000 boys, the charity said.
But it said that in three of the five sites, that number was below 800.
In four of the five sites surveyed, the proportion of girls to boys had declined since a 2001 census, the report said.
The research also found that ratios of girls to boys were declining fastest in comparatively prosperous urban areas.
ActionAid suggested the increasing use of ultrasound technology may be a factor in the trend.
The document says that Indian woman are put under intense pressure to produce sons, in a culture that predominantly views girls as a burden rather than an asset.
It says many families now use ultrasound scans and abort female foetuses, despite the existence of the 1994 law banning gender selection and selective abortion.
The charity also blames other illegal practices - such as allowing the umbilical cord to become infected - for the growing gender imbalance.
"The real horror of the situation is that, for women, avoiding having daughters is a rational choice. But for wider society it's creating an appalling and desperate state of affairs," Laura Turquet, women's rights policy official at ActionAid said.
"In the long term, cultural attitudes need to change. India must address economic and social barriers including property rights, marriage dowries and gender roles that condemn girls before they are even born.
"If we don't act now the future looks bleak," Ms Turquet said.
Some 10 million female foetuses have been aborted in India in the past 20 years, the British medical journal the Lancet has said.
I've been seeing a vast increase of Indian workers here in my town...and I'm not talking about gas stations and 7-11's, I'm talking about the local hospital and the building I work in is full of Indians where they're making $50+ per hour. They are very smart and dedicated people. I commend them for their hardwork.
If us Americans can work as hard and be as smart as the Indians and Chinese, then they would not steal our jobs, but that's not the case with us Americans.
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- China
which of these two do you think poses greater military danger?
- China
which country do you personally prefer?
- India
which people (indian/chinese) do you prefer??
- India
who do you think is better on human rights - dont forget the caste system in india.
- India
which of these two can/will challenge usa/europe/russia
-China
1. Probably China, however, India is showing that it has the potential to compete at a global level and because of that, India is not far behind in the grand scheme of things.
2. At present, probably China.
3. I personally prefer neither. I have met some fine people from both countries. I work for a University in Alabama that has a large population of students from both China and India and they are amazing individuals. My University has just established a Confucius Institute on our campus (the first in Alabama) in order to promote Chinese culture and to offer language classes in Mandarin. I have also had the pleasure in the past (2003) to work with consul-general Wu from the People's Republic of China and his staff on two separate occasions when they made visits to Alabama; in fact, I shared a speaking platform with him at an international student symposium at Auburn University in October of 2003.
4. Same as #3.
5. Generally speaking, I would say that India has a better track record on human rights.
6. I think that China is probably in a better condition to challenge the U.S. at the present time. I don't know if China will challenge Russia. I think that long term, China will likely align with Russia.
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I agree with you. Never said one was better. I just believe China is a half a notch higher on the "Horrible At Human Rights" scale. Sort of like an F+ is slightly better than an F.
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It was fine until you showed up to pull the fire alarm, which seems to be a role you enjoy.
That's going to be a big big trouble for the United States in a couple years, probably it's going to mean the end of the US empire in the world.
China is already there, and India is coming up in their rear-view mirror.
which of these two do you think poses greater military danger?
Globally, as others have stated, it is China...meaning they have the ability to project force on a wider scale. But in the purest sense of danger, the Indian/Pakistani relationship is a far greater flash point.
which country do you personally prefer??
India...they didn't have a cultural revolution that wiped out most of the native wildlife.
which people (indian/chinese) do you prefer??
I don't really think this way....a person is a person
who do you think is better on human rights - dont forget the caste system in india.
India...but it's close
which of these two can/will challenge usa/europe/russia
Challenge how?? Both are showing the economic muscle to take on the U.S. and Europe....militarily....who knows?
'Thousands die' in India custody
By Chris Morris
BBC News, Delhi
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7474656.stm
'A new report by a human rights group says nearly 7,500 people have died in official custody in India over the last five years.
The report by Delhi-based Asian Centre for Human Rights says many of these people were tortured in custody.
It says the Indian government is in a state of denial about torture.
Even when action is taken against officials who are accused of wrongdoing, the report argues, the system tries to cover up any crimes.
The Indian report was released to coincide with the United Nations' global day against torture on Thursday.
The rights group has collated official figures and found that 7,468 people - that is four people every day - have died in prison or police custody since 2002.
Nearly all the deaths, it says, were the result of torture.
But the government routinely attributes deaths in custody to illness, attempted escape, suicide and accidents.
Suhas Chakma, director of the Asian Centre for Human Rights, says prosecuting responsible officials takes a long time in India, and leads to a "culture of impunity".
"It takes about 25 - 30 years to prosecute somebody. And by that time many of the accused are dead, or possibly the relatives that have filed a complaint are dead," he said.
"So there is a culture of impunity which is given by the government of India, and I think this is the single most important factor which is encouraging torture."
The report also criticises an appalling record of torture among armed groups which fight against the Indian state - highlighting in particular the actions of Maoist rebels.
But the onus is on the government, it says, to improve its record.
Torture, it recommends, must be made a specific criminal offence. And the government should ratify the United Nations convention against Torture without delay.