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japan's colonial past

IndianSummerIndianSummer Posts: 854
edited May 2007 in A Moving Train
just how big a coloniser country was japan??

i am not talking about Japan's crimes during world war II - thats for another thread.


this is about Japan's "empire".
I have faced it, A life wasted...

Take my hand, my child of love
Come step inside my tears
Swim the magic ocean,
I've been crying all these years
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  • TrauTrau Posts: 188
    Japanese_Empire2.png
    In the shadow of the light from a black sun
    Frigid statue standing icy blue and numb
    Where are the frost giants Ive begged for protection?
    I'm freezing

    Are you afraid, afraid to die
    Don't be afraid, afraid to try
  • IndianSummerIndianSummer Posts: 854
    yes but how bad were they exactly - qualitatively and quantitatively??
    I have faced it, A life wasted...

    Take my hand, my child of love
    Come step inside my tears
    Swim the magic ocean,
    I've been crying all these years
  • TrauTrau Posts: 188
    What do you mean by "bad"? You asked how big of a colonizer Japan was, and I showed you.
    In the shadow of the light from a black sun
    Frigid statue standing icy blue and numb
    Where are the frost giants Ive begged for protection?
    I'm freezing

    Are you afraid, afraid to die
    Don't be afraid, afraid to try
  • Bwalker545Bwalker545 Posts: 162
    How bad were they, and their war crimes of WWII are for another thread? I think we have another "WWII started in Europe" beilever... Their crimes during WWII all took place in their "empire" As far as most historians are concerned The Second Sino-Japanese war was the start of WWII in Asia.
    Lets put it this way... they were pretty bad...

    *Rummages for WWII in the Pacific notes*
    The Battle of Shanghi Aug 13 - Nov 26, 1937 Chinese MILITARY casualties:200k
    The Batlle and "Rape of Nanjing Dec, 1937- Civilian's "Massacred" after the city surrenders Japanese say 20k, W. Observers say 40k, Chinese say 300k
    Modern scholars and Govt.s place actual estimate between (200-430K) Thats a big margin...
    Rapes estimated at around 80K

    Shall we continue? I mean its not like they conquered an empire nicely
    "Almost unconsciously he traced with his finger in the dust on the table: 2+2=5" 1984
  • TrauTrau Posts: 188
    Plus, the Japanese sense of racial superiority rivaled and possibly surpassed any such European notions of the day.
    In the shadow of the light from a black sun
    Frigid statue standing icy blue and numb
    Where are the frost giants Ive begged for protection?
    I'm freezing

    Are you afraid, afraid to die
    Don't be afraid, afraid to try
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Magus wrote:
    Shall we continue? I mean its not like they conquered an empire nicely

    and who ever does?
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Bwalker545Bwalker545 Posts: 162
    UH...no one, thats my point its pretty hard to CONQUER nicely,
    con·quer–verb (used with object)
    1.to acquire by force of arms; win in war: to conquer a foreign land.
    2.to overcome by force; subdue: to conquer an enemy.
    "Almost unconsciously he traced with his finger in the dust on the table: 2+2=5" 1984
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Magus wrote:
    UH...no one, thats my point its pretty hard to CONQUER nicely,
    con·quer–verb (used with object)
    1.to acquire by force of arms; win in war: to conquer a foreign land.
    2.to overcome by force; subdue: to conquer an enemy.

    i know that was your point. my post was to reinforce yours. :)
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • IndianSummerIndianSummer Posts: 854
    Magus wrote:

    Shall we continue?

    yes lets continue. i want to know exactly how bad were they. and please leave out their actions during ww2 for another thread.

    here i just want to focus on colonial japan TILL the start of ww2.
    I have faced it, A life wasted...

    Take my hand, my child of love
    Come step inside my tears
    Swim the magic ocean,
    I've been crying all these years
  • IndianSummerIndianSummer Posts: 854
    Trau wrote:
    Plus, the Japanese sense of racial superiority rivaled and possibly surpassed any such European notions of the day.
    yes very true.
    I have faced it, A life wasted...

    Take my hand, my child of love
    Come step inside my tears
    Swim the magic ocean,
    I've been crying all these years
  • Bwalker545Bwalker545 Posts: 162
    IndianSummer wrote:
    here i just want to focus on colonial japan TILL the start of ww2.
    Ok so...umm...colonial Japan before WWII...uhhh, Well the problem is that they were not really colonial powers before WWII. We can discuss the First Sino-Japanese War, they took Taiwan, Formosa and well not much else. After WWI they occupied land that Germany had before. In both cases they disciminated against, exploited and killed those that were not Japanese.

    Now are you going to just sit there and make other people do the work...or are you going to offer so insight into this disscussion? since it as you said "I" want to focus on.... would be nice for you to contribute.
    "Almost unconsciously he traced with his finger in the dust on the table: 2+2=5" 1984
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