Report: Teen commits suicide online while people watched

SuzannePjamSuzannePjam Posts: 411
edited November 2008 in A Moving Train
This is just so shocking and sad. I can't believe people didn't try to help him. What does this say about our society?


Report: Teen commits suicide online
People were watching through a body building Web site

FORT LAUDERDALE, Florida - A college student committed suicide by taking a drug overdose in front of a live webcam as some computer users egged him on, others tried to talk him out of it, and another messaged OMG in horror as it became clear it was no joke.

Some watchers contacted the Web site to notify police, but by the time officers entered Abraham Biggs' home — a scene also captured on the Internet — it was too late.

Biggs, a 19-year-old Broward College student who suffered from what his family said was bipolar disorder, or manic depression, lay dead on his bed in his father's Pembroke Pines house Wednesday afternoon, the camera still running 12 hours after Biggs announced his intentions online around 3 a.m.

It was unclear how many people watched it unfold.

Biggs was not the first person to commit suicide with a webcam rolling. But the drawn-out drama — and the reaction of those watching — was seen as an extreme example of young people's penchant for sharing intimate details about themselves over the Internet.

Biggs' family was infuriated that no one acted sooner to save him, neither the viewers nor the Web site that hosted the live video, Justin.tv. The Web site shows a video image, with a space alongside where computer users can instantly post comments.

Only when police arrived did the Web feed stop, "so that's 12 hours of watching," said the victim's sister, Rosalind Bigg. "They got hits, they got viewers, nothing happened for hours."

She added: "It didn't have to be."

An autopsy concluded Biggs died from a combination of opiates and benzodiazepine, which his family said was prescribed for his bipolar disorder.

Biggs announced his plans to kill himself over a Web site for bodybuilders, authorities said. But some users told investigators they did not take him seriously because he had threatened suicide on the site before.

Some members of his virtual audience encouraged him to do it, others tried to talk him out of it, and some discussed whether he was taking a dose big enough to kill himself, said Wendy Crane, an investigator with the Broward County medical examiner's office.

A computer user who claimed to have watched said that after swallowing some pills, Biggs went to sleep and appeared to be breathing for a few hours while others cracked jokes.

Someone notified the moderator of the bodybuilding site, who traced Biggs' location and called police, Crane said.

As police entered the room, the audience's reaction was filled with Internet shorthand: "OMFG," one wrote, meaning "Oh, my God." Others, either not knowing what they were seeing, or not caring, wrote "lol," which means "laughing out loud," and "hahahah."

An online video purportedly from Biggs' webcam shows a gun-wielding officer entering a bedroom, where a man is lying on a bed, his face turned away from the camera. The officer begins to examine him, as the camera lens is covered. Authorities could not immediately verify the authenticity of the video, though it matched their description of what occurred.

Montana Miller, an assistant professor of popular culture at Bowling Green State University in Ohio, said Biggs' very public suicide was not shocking, given the way teenagers chronicle every facet of their lives on sites like Facebook and MySpace.

"If it's not recorded or documented then it doesn't even seem worthwhile," she said. "For today's generation it might seem, `What's the point of doing it if everyone isn't going to see it?'"

She likened Biggs' death to other public ways of committing suicide, like jumping off a bridge.

Crane said she knows of a case in which a Florida man shot himself in the head in front of an online audience, though she didn't know how much viewers saw. In Britain last year, a man hanged himself while chatting online.

In a statement, Justin.tv CEO Michael Seibel said: "We regret that this has occurred and want to respect the privacy of the broadcaster and his family during this time."

The Web site would not say how many people were watching the broadcast. The site as a whole had 672,000 unique visitors in October, according to Nielsen.

Miami lawyer William Hill said there is probably nothing that could be done legally to those who watched and did not act. As for whether the Web site could be held liable, Hill said there doesn't seem to be much of a case for negligence.

"There could conceivably be some liability if they knew this was happening and they had some ability to intervene and didn't take action," said Hill, who does business litigation and has represented a number of Internet-based clients. But "I think it would be a stretch."

Condolences poured into Biggs' MySpace page, where the mostly unsmiling teen is seen posing in a series of pictures with various young women. On the bodybuilding Web site, Biggs used the screen name CandyJunkie. His Justin.tv alias was "feels_like_ecstacy."

"This is very, very sudden and unexpected for us," the sister said. "It boggles the mind. We don't understand."
"Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand

"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
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  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    The world is getting pretty fucking weird, man.
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    They filmed a movie where I work that was kind of like this.

    It's called Untraceable
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  • ajedigeckoajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,430
    nothing surprises me anymore.....except, i am surprised it has not happened sooner.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,448
    The family should realize that it wasn't the people on the website's fault. They probably weren't sure if it was real or not and even if they did they had no duty to tell anyone about it. The kid wanted to take his own life, and he did. If someone would have called the cops in time he probably would have done it at a later date. The family should think about what they could have done differently and not be so mad at people that had nothing to do with the situation.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    The family should realize that it wasn't the people on the website's fault. They probably weren't sure if it was real or not and even if they did they had no duty to tell anyone about it. The kid wanted to take his own life, and he did. If someone would have called the cops in time he probably would have done it at a later date. The family should think about what they could have done differently and not be so mad at people that had nothing to do with the situation.

    I agree, the family says it came very sudden and unexpected. He suffered from bipolar disorder.

    edit: Although, I think they do have a duty. It's not about whether they were sure, why take the risk? Some even thought it was real but were discussing if he was actually taking enough to kill himself. When police came in they were laughing.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,696
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    The family should realize that it wasn't the people on the website's fault. They probably weren't sure if it was real or not and even if they did they had no duty to tell anyone about it. The kid wanted to take his own life, and he did. If someone would have called the cops in time he probably would have done it at a later date. The family should think about what they could have done differently and not be so mad at people that had nothing to do with the situation.
    those viewing did virtually nothing for approximately 12 hours? they bear no responsibility? The comments made during the course of this and after the cops were FINALLY alerted is whats more disturbing. Not long now til televised executions mmmm?
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  • attention starved person + cynical web users = a predictable cycle

    maybe this guy can be famous post-mortum like the Myspace emo kid in front of the bathroom mirror with cellphone in hand

    drama kings really, I feel sorry for the parents who have to explain away their shame
    hate was just a legend
  • covered in blisscovered in bliss chi-caw-go Posts: 1,332
    attention starved person + cynical web users = a predictable cycle

    maybe this guy can be famous post-mortum like the Myspace emo kid in front of the bathroom mirror with cellphone in hand

    drama kings really, I feel sorry for the parents who have to explain away their shame

    I don't know...

    How is it possible to be attention starved today? With the internet (message boards, myspace, facebook, etc.), people can easily get more attention than 20 years ago.

    This story isn't surprising. I would've thought he was faking... looking for internet attention.
  • I don't know...

    How is it possible to be attention starved today?

    seriously?

    about 99.8 percent of webcam users are attention starved, this dude just was a bit more intense than the rest of the field
    hate was just a legend
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    sponger wrote:
    The world is getting pretty fucking weird, man.
    The world has always been fucked up. The internet is a relatively new invention. Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later.
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    The world has always been fucked up. The internet is a relatively new invention. Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later.

    Yes I know it's been fucked up. I'm saying it's getting weird.

    It's like when the Germans first unleashed chlorine gas on enemy trenches during WWI. The potential for ultra-grotesque warfare has existed since the dawn of man. It was only a matter of technology.

    Teens committing or attempting to committ suicide for various reasons including a search for attention is nothing new. But, the internet, like chlorine gas, gives it a new face.
  • T-CaseT-Case Posts: 186
    man this world gets more fucked up by the day
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  • covered in blisscovered in bliss chi-caw-go Posts: 1,332
    seriously?

    about 99.8 percent of webcam users are attention starved, this dude just was a bit more intense than the rest of the field

    yeah, I'm serious. Maybe 'starved' isn't the proper term anymore.

    some people seem to be attention 'addicted'. the internet feeds their need -they can't get enough.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,448
    mickeyrat wrote:
    those viewing did virtually nothing for approximately 12 hours? they bear no responsibility? The comments made during the course of this and after the cops were FINALLY alerted is whats more disturbing. Not long now til televised executions mmmm?
    Moral obligation? Probably. Legal obligation? Absolutely not. There's a big difference.
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  • SVRDhand13 wrote:
    The family should realize that it wasn't the people on the website's fault. They probably weren't sure if it was real or not and even if they did they had no duty to tell anyone about it. The kid wanted to take his own life, and he did. If someone would have called the cops in time he probably would have done it at a later date. The family should think about what they could have done differently and not be so mad at people that had nothing to do with the situation.


    agreed.
    i am sure most were in disbelief of it's realness'...and there also is a very real phenomenon amongst people in need, i forget what it's called.....but it pretty much states that when a group of people witness or hear cries for help, most assume 'someone else' will do something...and most, if not all, actually do nothing. not saying that's right, just that it is not new.



    btw - there was a terrible movie starring diane lane that covered a similar idea. a serial killer murdering online as people watched, and the more who tuned in, the quicker the person died. it was a terrible flick, but a very good premise.
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  • mdigenakismdigenakis Posts: 1,337
    Wasn't there a girl on youtube who had a suicide countdown? What happened to her?
    "Don't let the darkness eat you up..."

    -Greg Dulli

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