Anyone think Palin will withdraw from the McCain ticket?
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anotherclone wrote:I don't really think an investigation, that began prior to her being offered the VP position, is stupid.
An investigation into whether or not she abused her power to illegally fire someone, really seems pretty valid if you ask me.
In my opinion, she is a typical Republican candidate with lots of baggage.
I think the investigation is stupid...just my opinion after having read some on it.
I think EVERY person (and thus every candidate) has plenty of baggage.hippiemom = goodness0 -
mammasan wrote:I agree with the Evangilicals that it shouldn't be an issue, but I also can't stand their blatant hypocracy. Had this happened to a Democratic candidate the James Dobson's of the world would have cursed the candidate and his/her heathen daughter straight to hell.
You're are probably right about that...but that's why I don't listen to them.hippiemom = goodness0 -
anotherclone wrote:I don't really think an investigation, that began prior to her being offered the VP position, is stupid.
An investigation into whether or not she abused her power to illegally fire someone, really seems pretty valid if you ask me.
In my opinion, she is a typical Republican candidate with lots of baggage.
The last time a candidate was investigated for abuse of power regarding state troopers it was Bill Clinton allegedly using them to procure sex partners for him and if I remember correctly, the country survived him and his scandals pretty well.- Busted down the pretext
- 8/28/98
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- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
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cincybearcat wrote:I think the investigation is stupid...just my opinion after having read some on it.
I think EVERY person (and thus every candidate) has plenty of baggage.
fair enough.0 -
cincybearcat wrote:You're are probably right about that...but that's why I don't listen to them.
Many do though. There are far to many people out there that would vote for who ever these Evangilical preachers tell them to vote for."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
mammasan wrote:Many do though. There are far to many people out there that would vote for who ever these Evangilical preachers tell them to vote for.
3Gs.. God gays and guns0 -
g under p wrote:No she won't withdraw and they did get the bounce they wanted.
Curious to know your source about the bounce you claim McCain recieved in the polls. I see Palin created a lot buzz in the media, but I don't think they brought his poll numbers up.
Latest Gallup Poll shows no 'Palin bump' for McCain
Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist
The Gallup Poll's daily tracking service never sleeps: The Labor Day poll shows Barack Obama leads John McCain 49-43 percent. The bottom line: No big bump (yet) for McCain's pick of Sarah Palin as his vice presidential nominee.
Obama led McCain by the same 6 percentage points right after the end of the Democratic National Convention -- and a day before Palin became national news.
Obviously, the daily tracking poll in the next day or two will reflect what Americans think about Palin now that they know her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is about five months pregnant."Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand
"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello0 -
Solat13 wrote:The last time a candidate was investigated for abuse of power regarding state troopers it was Bill Clinton allegedly using them to procure sex partners for him and if I remember correctly, the country survived him and his scandals pretty well.
Eliot Spitzer was the last that I remember... He was surviving that, well, until the hooker thingMy whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
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SuzannePjam wrote:Curious to know your source about the bounce you claim McCain recieved in the polls. I see Palin created a lot buzz in the media, but I don't think they brought his poll numbers up.
Latest Gallup Poll shows no 'Palin bump' for McCain
Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist
The Gallup Poll's daily tracking service never sleeps: The Labor Day poll shows Barack Obama leads John McCain 49-43 percent. The bottom line: No big bump (yet) for McCain's pick of Sarah Palin as his vice presidential nominee.
Obama led McCain by the same 6 percentage points right after the end of the Democratic National Convention -- and a day before Palin became national news.
Obviously, the daily tracking poll in the next day or two will reflect what Americans think about Palin now that they know her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is about five months pregnant.
It depends which polls you are looking at.
CNN had it at Obama 49 - McCain 48 on Monday
Zogby had it at McCain 47 - Obama 45 on Monday
and Rasmussen had it at Obama 46 McCain 43
Of course the only poll that matters is on 11/4- Busted down the pretext
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
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SuzannePjam wrote:Curious to know your source about the bounce you claim McCain recieved in the polls. I see Palin created a lot buzz in the media, but I don't think they brought his poll numbers up.
Latest Gallup Poll shows no 'Palin bump' for McCain
Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist
The Gallup Poll's daily tracking service never sleeps: The Labor Day poll shows Barack Obama leads John McCain 49-43 percent. The bottom line: No big bump (yet) for McCain's pick of Sarah Palin as his vice presidential nominee.
Obama led McCain by the same 6 percentage points right after the end of the Democratic National Convention -- and a day before Palin became national news.
Obviously, the daily tracking poll in the next day or two will reflect what Americans think about Palin now that they know her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is about five months pregnant.
I'd have to go searching, but I think McCain did get a significant "bump" in fundraising.hippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat wrote:I'd have to go searching, but I think McCain did get a significant "bump" in fundraising.
Yeah, the RNC raised around 10 million over the weekend after her announcement.- Busted down the pretext
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
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PEPPER wrote:Is Obama going to drop out because he didn't get the 10 - 15 point bump they predicted after his Mile High Speech?
You mean the 10-15 point bump that the republican surrogates/talking heads predicted to raise the expectations?My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln0 -
Solat13 wrote:Yeah, the RNC raised around 10 million over the weekend after her announcement."Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand
"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello0 -
he isnt gonna drop her...that would say he isnt a strong decision maker. however...its gonna hurt him having her...what a dump pick, esp. since his knock on obama is that he is young and inexperienced...
and now there is this 17 year old prego daugther...once mccain...as an obama supporter...thank you very much for a horrible decision....“Kept in a small bowl, the goldfish will remain small. With more space, the fish can grow double, triple, or quadruple its size.”
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SuzannePjam wrote:I don't think the religious right crowd will have much of a problem with her daughters pregnancy, but I do think for a lot of other undecided voters it will have a negative effect.
I really don't think that her daugher's pregnancy will have (or should have) any negative effect on any voters. We probably all know some friend or relative that has dealt with teenage pregnancy.
There are a lot of other issues with the Palin pick which may effect how voters feel about McCain, but I can't see the pregnancy being one of them.My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln0 -
blackredyellow wrote:I really don't think that her daugher's pregnancy will have (or should have) any negative effect on any voters. We probably all know some friend or relative that has dealt with teenage pregnancy.
There are a lot of other issues with the Palin pick which may effect how voters feel about McCain, but I can't see the pregnancy being one of them.
I agree that the issue of her daughters pegnancy shouldn't have a negative effect on voters, but I think the whole package is causing questions and this just adds to it. In watching the news channels this morning, it was an interesting point that someone brought up about how the Republicans always pride themselves on defense, and it caused alot of dissention among them because she is not a strong national security candidate. The news also said that Romney is furious with the pick, so it will be interesting to see if he strongly campaigns for the ticket.
I went to three different parties this weekend and mostly republicans were there. THe republican men didn't seem to have as much of a problem with his choice, but most of the republican women had a huge problem with it.
BTW, CBS poll just posted at noon shows Obama at 48%, McCain at 40%"Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand
"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello0 -
too late now0
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PEPPER wrote:No I am pretty sure it was more then the republican talking heads....the polls did not move after his Mile High Speech…you don’t think that would have swayed a few voters???
I guess this has something to do with the topic of this thread...
or are you just pulling out the old playbook - ignore and redirect...?0 -
Nope. Do you think her background was at all an unknown by McCain's group? All this has been accounted for.The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.0 -
Does it even matter?Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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