Anyone think Palin will withdraw from the McCain ticket?

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,889
    anotherclone wrote:
    I don't really think an investigation, that began prior to her being offered the VP position, is stupid.

    An investigation into whether or not she abused her power to illegally fire someone, really seems pretty valid if you ask me.

    In my opinion, she is a typical Republican candidate with lots of baggage.


    I think the investigation is stupid...just my opinion after having read some on it.

    I think EVERY person (and thus every candidate) has plenty of baggage.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,889
    mammasan wrote:
    I agree with the Evangilicals that it shouldn't be an issue, but I also can't stand their blatant hypocracy. Had this happened to a Democratic candidate the James Dobson's of the world would have cursed the candidate and his/her heathen daughter straight to hell.


    You're are probably right about that...but that's why I don't listen to them.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    anotherclone wrote:
    I don't really think an investigation, that began prior to her being offered the VP position, is stupid.

    An investigation into whether or not she abused her power to illegally fire someone, really seems pretty valid if you ask me.

    In my opinion, she is a typical Republican candidate with lots of baggage.

    The last time a candidate was investigated for abuse of power regarding state troopers it was Bill Clinton allegedly using them to procure sex partners for him and if I remember correctly, the country survived him and his scandals pretty well. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • anotherclone
    anotherclone Posts: 1,688
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I think the investigation is stupid...just my opinion after having read some on it.

    I think EVERY person (and thus every candidate) has plenty of baggage.

    fair enough. :)
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    cincybearcat wrote:
    You're are probably right about that...but that's why I don't listen to them.


    Many do though. There are far to many people out there that would vote for who ever these Evangilical preachers tell them to vote for.
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  • freindlyfired
    freindlyfired Posts: 297
    mammasan wrote:
    Many do though. There are far to many people out there that would vote for who ever these Evangilical preachers tell them to vote for.

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  • SuzannePjam
    SuzannePjam Posts: 411
    g under p wrote:
    No she won't withdraw and they did get the bounce they wanted.

    Curious to know your source about the bounce you claim McCain recieved in the polls. I see Palin created a lot buzz in the media, but I don't think they brought his poll numbers up.

    Latest Gallup Poll shows no 'Palin bump' for McCain
    Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist

    The Gallup Poll's daily tracking service never sleeps: The Labor Day poll shows Barack Obama leads John McCain 49-43 percent. The bottom line: No big bump (yet) for McCain's pick of Sarah Palin as his vice presidential nominee.

    Obama led McCain by the same 6 percentage points right after the end of the Democratic National Convention -- and a day before Palin became national news.

    Obviously, the daily tracking poll in the next day or two will reflect what Americans think about Palin now that they know her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is about five months pregnant.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Solat13 wrote:
    The last time a candidate was investigated for abuse of power regarding state troopers it was Bill Clinton allegedly using them to procure sex partners for him and if I remember correctly, the country survived him and his scandals pretty well. ;)

    Eliot Spitzer was the last that I remember... He was surviving that, well, until the hooker thing :)
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    SuzannePjam wrote:
    Curious to know your source about the bounce you claim McCain recieved in the polls. I see Palin created a lot buzz in the media, but I don't think they brought his poll numbers up.

    Latest Gallup Poll shows no 'Palin bump' for McCain
    Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist

    The Gallup Poll's daily tracking service never sleeps: The Labor Day poll shows Barack Obama leads John McCain 49-43 percent. The bottom line: No big bump (yet) for McCain's pick of Sarah Palin as his vice presidential nominee.

    Obama led McCain by the same 6 percentage points right after the end of the Democratic National Convention -- and a day before Palin became national news.

    Obviously, the daily tracking poll in the next day or two will reflect what Americans think about Palin now that they know her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is about five months pregnant.

    It depends which polls you are looking at.

    CNN had it at Obama 49 - McCain 48 on Monday
    Zogby had it at McCain 47 - Obama 45 on Monday
    and Rasmussen had it at Obama 46 McCain 43

    Of course the only poll that matters is on 11/4
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,889
    SuzannePjam wrote:
    Curious to know your source about the bounce you claim McCain recieved in the polls. I see Palin created a lot buzz in the media, but I don't think they brought his poll numbers up.

    Latest Gallup Poll shows no 'Palin bump' for McCain
    Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist

    The Gallup Poll's daily tracking service never sleeps: The Labor Day poll shows Barack Obama leads John McCain 49-43 percent. The bottom line: No big bump (yet) for McCain's pick of Sarah Palin as his vice presidential nominee.

    Obama led McCain by the same 6 percentage points right after the end of the Democratic National Convention -- and a day before Palin became national news.

    Obviously, the daily tracking poll in the next day or two will reflect what Americans think about Palin now that they know her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is about five months pregnant.


    I'd have to go searching, but I think McCain did get a significant "bump" in fundraising.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I'd have to go searching, but I think McCain did get a significant "bump" in fundraising.

    Yeah, the RNC raised around 10 million over the weekend after her announcement.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    PEPPER wrote:
    Is Obama going to drop out because he didn't get the 10 - 15 point bump they predicted after his Mile High Speech?

    You mean the 10-15 point bump that the republican surrogates/talking heads predicted to raise the expectations?
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  • SuzannePjam
    SuzannePjam Posts: 411
    Solat13 wrote:
    Yeah, the RNC raised around 10 million over the weekend after her announcement.
    I know they did recieve 4 million in one day after the announcement of Palin, so 10M is a significant amount of fundraising for one weekend. I also realize that it solidified the evangalical base with the announcement of Palin running, but I don't think it had a huge effect with the audience he was hoping to sway. I don't think the religious right crowd will have much of a problem with her daughters pregnancy, but I do think for a lot of other undecided voters it will have a negative effect.
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    But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
  • THC
    THC Posts: 525
    he isnt gonna drop her...that would say he isnt a strong decision maker. however...its gonna hurt him having her...what a dump pick, esp. since his knock on obama is that he is young and inexperienced...
    and now there is this 17 year old prego daugther...once mccain...as an obama supporter...thank you very much for a horrible decision....
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    SuzannePjam wrote:
    I don't think the religious right crowd will have much of a problem with her daughters pregnancy, but I do think for a lot of other undecided voters it will have a negative effect.


    I really don't think that her daugher's pregnancy will have (or should have) any negative effect on any voters. We probably all know some friend or relative that has dealt with teenage pregnancy.

    There are a lot of other issues with the Palin pick which may effect how voters feel about McCain, but I can't see the pregnancy being one of them.
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  • SuzannePjam
    SuzannePjam Posts: 411
    blackredyellow wrote:
    I really don't think that her daugher's pregnancy will have (or should have) any negative effect on any voters. We probably all know some friend or relative that has dealt with teenage pregnancy.

    There are a lot of other issues with the Palin pick which may effect how voters feel about McCain, but I can't see the pregnancy being one of them.

    I agree that the issue of her daughters pegnancy shouldn't have a negative effect on voters, but I think the whole package is causing questions and this just adds to it. In watching the news channels this morning, it was an interesting point that someone brought up about how the Republicans always pride themselves on defense, and it caused alot of dissention among them because she is not a strong national security candidate. The news also said that Romney is furious with the pick, so it will be interesting to see if he strongly campaigns for the ticket.

    I went to three different parties this weekend and mostly republicans were there. THe republican men didn't seem to have as much of a problem with his choice, but most of the republican women had a huge problem with it.

    BTW, CBS poll just posted at noon shows Obama at 48%, McCain at 40%
    "Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand

    "Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
    But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    too late now
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    PEPPER wrote:
    No I am pretty sure it was more then the republican talking heads....the polls did not move after his Mile High Speech…you don’t think that would have swayed a few voters???

    :confused: I guess this has something to do with the topic of this thread...

    or are you just pulling out the old playbook - ignore and redirect...?
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Nope. Do you think her background was at all an unknown by McCain's group? All this has been accounted for.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    Does it even matter?
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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