Magazine cover blasted by public squeamish over sight of nursing breast

SuzannePjamSuzannePjam Posts: 411
edited July 2006 in A Moving Train
I'm shocked that so many people had such a negative reaction to something I wouldn't even have looked twice at. I think Gayle Ash of Belton Texas could use a little therapy.

"A breast is a breast — it's a sexual thing."--Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas

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Eyeful of breast-feeding mom sparks outrage

Magazine cover blasted by public squeamish over sight of nursing breast

"I was SHOCKED to see a giant breast on the cover of your magazine," one person wrote. "I immediately turned the magazine face down," wrote another. "Gross," said a third.

These readers weren't complaining about a sexually explicit cover, but rather one of a baby nursing, on a wholesome parenting magazine — yet another sign that Americans are squeamish over the sight of a nursing breast, even as breast-feeding itself gains greater support from the government and medical community.

Babytalk is a free magazine whose readership is overwhelmingly mothers of babies. Yet in a poll of more than 4,000 readers, a quarter of responses to the cover were negative, calling the photo — a baby and part of a woman's breast, in profile — inappropriate.

One mother who didn't like the cover explains she was concerned about her 13-year-old son seeing it.

"I shredded it," said Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas, in a telephone interview. "A breast is a breast — it's a sexual thing. He didn't need to see that."

It's the same reason that Ash, 41, who nursed all three of her children, is cautious about breast-feeding in public — a subject of enormous debate among women, which has even spawned a new term: "lactivists," meaning those who advocate for a woman's right to nurse wherever she needs to.

"I'm totally supportive of it — I just don't like the flashing," she says. "I don't want my son or husband to accidentally see a breast they didn't want to see."

Another mother, Kelly Wheatley, wrote Babytalk to applaud the cover, precisely because, she says, it helps educate people that breasts are more than sex objects. And yet Wheatley, 40, who's still nursing her 3-year-old daughter, rarely breast-feeds in public, partly because it's more comfortable in the car, and partly because her husband is uncomfortable with other men seeing her breast.

"Men are very visual," says Wheatley, 40, of Amarillo, Texas. "When they see a woman's breast, they see a breast — regardless of what it's being used for."

Babytalk editor Susan Kane says the mixed response to the cover clearly echoes the larger debate over breast-feeding in public. "There's a huge Puritanical streak in Americans," she says, "and there's a squeamishness about seeing a body part — even part of a body part."

"It's not like women are whipping them out with tassels on them!" she adds. "Mostly, they are trying to be discreet."

Kane says that since the August issue came out last week, the magazine has received more than 700 letters — more than for any article in years.

"Gross, I am sick of seeing a baby attached to a boob," wrote Lauren, a mother of a 4-month-old.

The evidence of public discomfort isn't just anecdotal. In a survey published in 2004 by the American Dietetic Association, less than half — 43 percent — of 3,719 respondents said women should have the right to breast-feed in public places.

The debate rages at a time when the celebrity-mom phenomenon has made breast-feeding perhaps more public than ever. Gwyneth Paltrow, Brooke Shields, Kate Hudson and Kate Beckinsale are only a few of the stars who've talked openly about their nursing experiences.
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  • rightonduderightondude Posts: 745
    Some people need to be taken and shredded at the nearest kinko's. They must be damaged in the head to go on like that about the site of a nursing child.


    No man really cares about seeing this at all...trust me. So it's some freaked out bunch of women who keep raving about this? Geez you'd think other women would understand the most :rolleyes:

    frightening...
  • truroutetruroute Posts: 251
    I dont get why ppl get so pissed at a breast feedin mom. Comon. Its a boob. You probably sucked on one when you were a kid for a time and you probably still suck on'em when you get the chance. My God.

    Sexual innuendo aside, the retards that get "oh so god awful offended" when mothers feed their babies naturally "in public" or outside of the bathroom/living room have a serious problem. The problem of liking to hear themselves talk.

    Sure I look at a mom boob feeding an infant, but then there really isnt anything to look at. Get over it.

    I remember when I lived in England there was a "protest" or something in Bury St. Edmunds (i think) w/ ALOT of moms boob feeding there kids in the park near the Abby. Thats happened alot in the US too.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    "Gross," said a third.
    WTF???
    One mother who didn't like the cover explains she was concerned about her 13-year-old son seeing it.

    "I shredded it," said Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas, in a telephone interview. "A breast is a breast — it's a sexual thing. He didn't need to see that."
    I was once a 13 year old boy - that's all I wanted see
    "I don't want my son or husband to accidentally see a breast they didn't want to see."
    Talk about marrying the most sexless person ever. Did they adopt their son?
    "Men are very visual," says Wheatley, 40, of Amarillo, Texas. "When they see a woman's breast, they see a breast — regardless of what it's being used for."
    Unless there's baby hang it off of it. We're not all creepy.
  • truroutetruroute Posts: 251
    When they (men) see a woman's breast, they see a breast — regardless of what it's being used for."

    This is true though.

    I see a half boob hangin' out i look, because...well..its a boob in my perifial (sp) vision. But I dont stare just outta 'respect' (for lack of a better word) for the mom. Not respect outta privacy. But respect for mom doing whats free of charge and completely natural. If she did want privacy, the she wouldn' t do it in public. But privacy isnt the issue here. The issue is ppl whining, complaining and bitching cause they saw a "boob". Shit, just look at a Cosmopolitan, a bikini orrrrrr.............

    just dont look at all. Its that easy ppl.
  • breasts werent created for sexual purposes, the were made to nurse a child and to attract the other sex. its not like its a picture of a penis or vagina on the cover. breasts are beautiful and not "gross".
    these people need to get a life
    An ounce of deception
    Kills a pound of pain
  • MeatwagonMeatwagon Posts: 108
    You know that 13 year old kid has a stash of nudie mags!!! I have to admit I feel odd when someone is breast feeding around me, but it doesn't gross me out. My wife did it with our kids and its a damn good thing for both the mom and the baby. It's a damn magazine about raising children and what's good for them!!! Let that boob stand as a symble of good health and a positive mind!!! Did anyone notice all the people having trouble with this are located around the bible belt???? Funny. Boobs are good.
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  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    You don't even see a nipple. It may as well be an elbow, ffs. Some people are so fucking insane. Plus it's a goddamn baby magazine, it's not like they're plastering this highly offensive photo on the cover of Time Magazine. I swear to God the people offended by this are the reason pot should be legal....and it should be legal to tie them up and force them to smoke it.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    You don't even see a nipple. It may as well be an elbow, ffs. Some people are so fucking insane. Plus it's a goddamn baby magazine, it's not like they're plastering this highly offensive photo on the cover of Time Magazine. I swear to God the people offended by this are the reason pot should be legal....and it should be legal to tie them up and force them to smoke it.


    hahahaha! EXACTLY what i was thinking! it could be an elbow! people are ridiculous. it's a breast, being used as nature intended, and yet it STILL is uncomfortable to see? the fact that something so natural, so innocent....can be viewed in any way a negative light...shows you some serious issues within our culture, and ANY form of undress/nudity. crazy.
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  • ardyardy Posts: 53
    And yet Wheatley, 40, who's still nursing her 3-year-old daughter..


    ....still nursing her 3 year old?


    not a 3 month old....a 3 year old who is walking, talking, and has teeth.
    i find this to be a little disconcerting. it's her choice but once
    the child can eat solid foods, around 6-9 months, breastfeeding is usually stopped. not usually done after 12 months.....

    we have that magazine on our check out counter at the ob/gyn office where i work. there haven't been many comments made about it....it goes with the territory and the clientele.
    "Can I ask you a question?" (.....you just did.....)
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    get over it people... it's a freakin' breast! There is enough stupid things going on in this world to complain about, and these people pick a breast???
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    of a sunny day
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  • cutback wrote:


    I was once a 13 year old boy - that's all I wanted see



    I did laugh out loud at that one. :D
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    I did laugh out loud at that one. :D

    me also :D

    at 13 i was flicking through the Grattans catalogue at the womens lingerie section... i should have been looking at Pregnancy Monthly instead though :(
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • yes, the sight of nursing babies makes me sqeamish. However that doesn't mean it shouldn't be on a magazine cover. butterflies make me sqeamish too, but they're on plenty of magazines. this magazine is for mothers with babies for crying out loud.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    It's natural and therefore there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't need to be on the cover of some publication.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    So many Americans are so uptight and unbelievably hypocritical.

    This is a ridiculous reaction to nothing. What a bunch of over-reactionary, overly-sensitive PC assholes.

    Some Americans make me sick to my stomach.


    Someone needs to remove that HUGE stick from their collective asses.

    Yeah, a breast with a baby suckling is obscene to these people, but video games and movies where they depict the shootings and bloody, graphic body parts being hacked off or blown off; is okay:rolleyes:
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    NMyTree wrote:
    So many Americans are so uptight and unbelievably hypocritical.

    This is a ridiculous reaction to nothing. What a bunch of over-reactionary, overly-sensitive PC assholes.

    Some Americans make me sick to my stomach.


    Someone needs to remove that HUGE stick from their collective asses.

    Yeah, a breast with a baby suckling is obscene to these people, but video games and movies where they depict the shootings and bloody, graphic body parts being hacked off or blown off; is okay:rolleyes:


    And someone needs to realize that generalizations aren't real intelligent.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    know1 wrote:
    It's natural and therefore there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't need to be on the cover of some publication.

    It should be every where.

    Only a moron interprets a woman breast-feeding as a "sexual" thing. What kind of nutjob do you have to be to think such a thing?

    In fact, woman should be allowed to walk around topless if they so choose to.

    The human body is a beautiful thing. It is not a sin, bad thing or repulsive.

    It's the minds of these idiots and their negative, over-reactions to such things; that upset and disturb children.

    If they simply behaved uneffected as if it was simply a natural, non-issue; no children would get the notion that the human body or breast-feeding is a dirty, naughty....evil thing.
  • shirazshiraz Posts: 528
    NMyTree wrote:
    Yeah, a breast with a baby suckling is obscene to these people, but video games and movies where they depict the shootings and bloody, graphic body parts being hacked off or blown off; is okay:rolleyes:

    It reminds me the animated video clip for "Paranoid Android" by Radiohead. For a long time, the mermaid's breasts were censored by MTV, but all the violent parts (for example, the man cutting his limbs off) remaind untouched.

    About the original topic: I can understand if someone gets embarrassed by this sort of action (in my opinion, women who want to nurse in public need to ask "would you mind if I..."), but I really don't understand that weird over the top reaction of these people.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    shiraz wrote:
    (in my opinion, women who want to nurse in public need to ask "would you mind if I..."), but I really don't understand that weird over the top reaction of these people.


    no they fucking dont.... just as you dont need to ask permission to eat a sandwich in the middle of a town square...

    they are feeding the baby... what if you said "well yes i do mind actually"??? the baby keeps crying its head off and the mother has to find a 'suitable' spot to do the thing that is wholly natural!!!
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • shirazshiraz Posts: 528
    no they fucking dont.... just as you dont need to ask permission to eat a sandwich in the middle of a town square...

    they are feeding the baby... what if you said "well yes i do mind actually"??? the baby keeps crying its head off and the mother has to find a 'suitable' spot to do the thing that is wholly natural!!!

    Its a rhetorical question... you know, to be polite and inform you're gonna nurse your baby.
  • Flannel ShirtFlannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    It's official...the masses are asses. WTF?
    A leg can be a sexual thing to some for Christ sake. Its a picture of a mother feeding her child. What is sexy or sexual about that?
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • genevievegenevieve Posts: 1,203
    Ive been thinking about this a lot lately.
    Since having a baby 2mos ago, it is obviously on my mind.
    Then I hear the other day some states are thinking of banning breastfeeding in public.
    Women have been having "feed-ins" at thier government grounds in protest.
    I personally try to cover up. But its hard the blanket slips off my t-shirt is over her head.
    Babies squirm.
    Im not trying to flash the world.

    In north america health providers are in the same breath trying to get women
    to breastfeed and for longer. While public is saying "put that away! Its gross!"
    Would we look at a momma dog feed ing her pups and say Ewwww...?
    No way! Its natural. So why are we so above feeding our own children?
    I have friends who are very sqeemish about people seeing even an inch of their
    breasts. Personally I try to cover up but if a bit of boob is showing Im not gonna stress.
    the person below me smells like cat pee and raisins...
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    You gotta remember, kids... this is the same country where they will drape a curtain over the exposed breast of a cast bronze statue of Justice during a press conference.
    ...
    If you get a chubby from looking at a bronze breast on a fucking statue... I don't really think it's society that has the problem.
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  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    know1 wrote:
    It's natural and therefore there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't need to be on the cover of some publication.
    It's not just on the cover of "some publication", it's a damn baby/parenting magazine. Goodness people, there's nothing wrong with it. And sure, it doesn't "need to be" like you said, any more than Oprah "needs to be" on the cover of her fucking magazine but they certainly have the right to it.
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Cosmo wrote:
    If you get a chubby from looking at a bronze breast on a fucking statue... I don't really think it's society that has the problem.
    Hey, no personal attacks please......what?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Hey, no personal attacks please......what?
    ...
    Oh... ummm... nevermind.
    I do not understand this odd obsession this country has with tits. "Oh my gosh!!! A breast!!! Let's kill it!!!". 1/100th of a second of Janet Jackson's tit and the fucking country has a tizzy fit. Draping over a statue in a Hall of Justice... a mother breast feeding her infant on a magazine cover... They're tits, people. No big deal. If you think that a breast feeding mother is sexual... YOU'VE got the problem.
    ...
    and this is a General YOU, as in the puritan self-righteous wankers... not directed at 'Don't Gimme No'... who I know is a good guy.
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  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Oh... ummm... nevermind.
    I do not understand this odd obsession this country has with tits. "Oh my gosh!!! A breast!!! Let's kill it!!!". 1/100th of a second of Janet Jackson's tit and the fucking country has a tizzy fit. Draping over a statue in a Hall of Justice... a mother breast feeding her infant on a magazine cover... They're tits, people. No big deal. If you think that a breast feeding mother is sexual... YOU'VE got the problem.
    ...
    and this is a General YOU, as in the puritan self-righteous wankers... not directed at 'Don't Gimme No'... who I know is a good guy.
    I understand...I was joking, of course. I think the sad fact is that there are way too many sick fucks in this world so a lot of people feel the need to overcompensate. A mentally healthy person does not think anything sexual when seeing a mother breast feeding her child. But I guarantee there are a lot of freaks out there who do. It's a sad situation.

    For the record, I've never gotten tight pants over a nude statue or a breast-feeding mother. Nor have I ever been offended by breast-feeding in public. My feeling is that if people are offended by it, they're either people who recognize the sick fucks that might get off on that or they're idiots. Either way, there's clearly nothing wrong with it. And as for this being on the cover of a magazine. Who really cares about this shit? I cannot believe I'm even posting on this thread.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I understand...I was joking, of course. I think the sad fact is that there are way too many sick fucks in this world so a lot of people feel the need to overcompensate. A mentally healthy person does not think anything sexual when seeing a mother breast feeding her child. But I guarantee there are a lot of freaks out there who do. It's a sad situation.

    For the record, I've never gotten tight pants over a nude statue or a breast-feeding mother. Nor have I ever been offended by breast-feeding in public. My feeling is that if people are offended by it, they're either people who recognize the sick fucks that might get off on that or they're idiots. Either way, there's clearly nothing wrong with it. And as for this being on the cover of a magazine. Who really cares about this shit? I cannot believe I'm even posting on this thread.
    ...
    I was at a wedding once and we were sitting at the same table as our hippy co-worker. They has a little baby and during the dinner it was feeding time so... **THWUMMMMPPP!!!** out comes this gigantic tit that was way bigger than my head, crashing down on the table!!! There was no way to avoid it... it was covering, like, half the table. The kid starts sucking on the beast like there's no tomorrow and she just continued picking at her salad and chatting away about the lovely wedding...
    Although shocked at the appearance of this monsterous tit on our dinner table, none of us were offended because we all knew this gal and understood that, that's just the way she was. And I could see how people would get their panties in a bunch, mostly because of their own prudishness. Me? Well, to make light of it... I said, "Hey... if he doesn't want any of that other one... can I have it?".
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  • i have no problem with breast feeding on the cover of a magazine, or at all in public.


    just dont get pissed at me when im staring at it.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    i have no problem with breast feeding on the cover of a magazine, or at all in public.


    just dont get pissed at me when im staring at it.
    ...
    Sort of like the gal that wears the low rise jeans that barely cover her cooter... then, gives you shit for looking?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
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