Women under attack in Iraq, Afghanistan

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    hippiemom wrote:
    Who hires the Secretary of State? Who has the power to fire him or her? Who does the secretary answer to? The State Department is PART OF the administration, for heaven's sake! If Colin Powell had any autonomy at all, you can bet this whole Iraq mess would have been handled a lot differently. He did his boss' bidding like a good little soldier.


    the state dept doesnt ask permission for every little thing it does. the state dept is given a budget of over 9 billion. 43 million is nothing. did bush even know about this transation? who knows? do I agree with it? no

    when did I say the state dept is part of the administration? I didnt for heavens sake. your first 4 questions of so irrelvant. again, its just your condesending way for talking to someone you dont agree with.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    jlew24asu wrote:
    the state dept doesnt ask permission for every little thing it does. the state dept is given a budget of over 9 billion. 43 million is nothing. did bush even know about this transation? who knows? do I agree with it? no
    I knew about it. Yes, I expect the president to know at least as much as I do about what his immediate subordinates are up to.
    jlew24asu wrote:
    when did I say the state dept is part of the administration? I didnt for heavens sake. your first 4 questions of so irrelvant. again, its just your condesending way for talking to someone you dont agree with.
    You said "I dont agree that bush's administration gave 43 million to the taliban. it was actually colin powell and the dept of state who was behind that," which sounds as though you believe the State Department and the administration to be two entirely separate entities.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    hippiemom wrote:
    I knew about it. Yes, I expect the president to know at least as much as I do about what his immediate subordinates are up to.


    You said "I dont agree that bush's administration gave 43 million to the taliban. it was actually colin powell and the dept of state who was behind that," which sounds as though you believe the State Department and the administration to be two entirely separate entities.


    the state dept and the white house are separate entities.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    jlew24asu wrote:
    the state dept and the white house are separate entities.
    That's like saying your marketing department is a separate entity from your company. Who was Colin Powell's boss?
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I guess you guys didn't know that people of all sexes, religions, skin pigmentation, etc.. are being attacked in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's called a war and civil unrest is a part of that.

    I don't understand why if 5 men are killed it's an act of terrorism. If 5 women are killed it's an act of oppression.

    You know, I go to Tim Horton's for a coffee every morning and sometimes this girl is working. She is muslim, she covers her hair and part of her face and she seems really happy. There is another young guy that works there, he doesn't cover himself up, he's actually really "in your face" with his appearance. He dyed his hair pink and blue and he has facial augments like piercings and he is the most miserable person there.

    This is Canada and that girl doesn't have to wear the veil, but obviously she wants to and it's not destroying her life.

    I mean, as outsiders we only know so much, we will never be in their shoes and sometimes I think we are just plain wrong.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I guess you guys didn't know that people of all sexes, religions, skin pigmentation, etc.. are being attacked in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's called a war and civil unrest is a part of that.

    I don't understand why if 5 men are killed it's an act of terrorism. If 5 women are killed it's an act of oppression.

    You know, I go to Tim Horton's for a coffee every morning and sometimes this girl is working. She is muslim, she covers her hair and part of her face and she seems really happy. There is another young guy that works there, he doesn't cover himself up, he's actually really "in your face" with his appearance. He dyed his hair pink and blue and he has facial augments like piercings and he is the most miserable person there.

    This is Canada and that girl doesn't have to wear the veil, but obviously she wants to and it's not destroying her life.

    I mean, as outsiders we only know so much, we will never be in their shoes and sometimes I think we are just plain wrong.

    The major difference between the girl at TH in Canada and a girl in Afghanistan, Iraq or wherever is that girl at Horton's has a choice. The women in many if not most muslim countries HAVE NO CHOICE! It is the fact that they are made to do things and not allowed to do others. They can't change their life unless they somehow left their family and their home and escaped to another country and managed to make a life totally on their own without an education or the training to know how to take care of yourself. I don't approve the subjugation of women unless they choose to be subjugated.

    Further, the women in these countries are being targeted because they are women trying to improve the social status and economic status of women. They are being targeted because there is a movement to keep women subjugated. It is not like a terrorist bomb that kills randomly. The targeting of women is meant to stop women.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    The major difference between the girl at TH in Canada and a girl in Afghanistan, Iraq or wherever is that girl at Horton's has a choice. The women in many if not most muslim countries HAVE NO CHOICE! It is the fact that they are made to do things and not allowed to do others. They can't change their life unless they somehow left their family and their home and escaped to another country and managed to make a life totally on their own without an education or the training to know how to take care of yourself. I don't approve the subjugation of women unless they choose to be subjugated.

    Further, the women in these countries are being targeted because they are women trying to improve the social status and economic status of women. They are being targeted because there is a movement to keep women subjugated. It is not like a terrorist bomb that kills randomly. The targeting of women is meant to stop women.

    Well here is a picture of an Iraqi woman getting her make-up done from an aerobics video. Notice none of the women are wearing head-dresses and they are in-fact wearing make-up!!!!

    I think this whole story is full of shit. Regardless, Sunnis are being targetted by Shiite and vice versa. It's not just women that are being targetted for their beliefs, it's everyone.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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