Violent crime rates on the rise nationwide

angelica

NMyTree wrote:

Correct.

I don't believe in making excuses for bad behavior. Help and encourage people to help themselves.

It is a very pertinent point, and as I say, I agree.

There are no excuses for bad behaviour. Even when we understand the reasons for bad behaviour, the individual is always 100% accountable for their actions. I've been ravingly manic (delusional) and I've done horrific things. Despite being mentally ill and not considered at fault for my behaviours due to illness, I will always know that I am the one and only person who acted out said behaviours.

At the same time, I felt Commy's points , or even your own from post #5 in this thread, were more in line with addressing the social causes which are relevent in terms of addressing and solving the true causative underlying conditions from which the symptoms of bad behaviour spring.

EvilToasterElf

know1 wrote:

It's the parents' and the criminals' fault. It's not society's fault. How about locking up parents for crimes committed by people up until they're 30? Perhaps they'll start doing their job and raising their kids correctly instead of by remote control like they do now.

Yes, of course, how could I have missed it. For the last 20 years good parenting has been on the rise, but since 2005 ended every good parent became a drug abusing alcoholic enabling their teens to commit violent crimes. It's a mass movement of parents to stop taking responsibility, it started around Christmas of '05 and the movement has been gaining momentum since.

Why bother listening to the local police chiefs? What the hell do they know about causing crime.

The article clearly demonstrated realistic reasons for the surge in crime, offering tired platitudes in response isn't going to enlighten anyone.

The whole reason kids are raised by "remote control" is that in city area's both parents have to work. When both parents are working, they rely on a cocktail of after school programs, and tons of other municipal and public outlets to keep their kids busy until they come home, when these programs aren't funded to pay for wars and the joke that is homeland security, local crime is the price you pay.

know1

Kenny Olav wrote:

i am not saying that someone who is criminally insane should not be dealt with, but in societies where people take care of each other - every man woman and child, they have much lower crime rates than we do. scandinavian countries are a good example. also, the 'christian socialist' country of Costa Rica has a violent crime rate that is much much lower than the U.S.

right now, in american society, its families and other groups of people (like religious organizations) that tend to take care of each other. but inevitably many individuals fall thru the cracks and become social outcasts. groups of oppressed minorities become groups of outcasts. countries that strive for social equality have greatly reduced this problem, they strive to treat every individual with dignity, and that's why they have less crime.


sorry if i blew up at you before, but honestly, i'm getting old and cranky... and sick of seeing my country go to shit!!!!!!!!!!!

I wasn't talking about anyone who was criminally insane. Nevertheless, you and I just see it differently. I'm tired of seeing things sliding downhill as well, but when it comes to violent crime, I believe there is almost always a choice not to participate in it - no matter how bad your life has been to that point.

fando y lis

It's amazing, you look at the red/blue colored map of the USA, and the areas that have the highest crime rates are the blue states, or in the case of the red states- the blue marked areas. Hmmm...

know1

angelica wrote:

When you start demonstrating understanding of social issues, I'll consider your opinions on social issues to be informed opinions.

So only someone who agrees with you has "informed opinions"? Wow - I may disagree with people, but it doesn't mean that I think they are ignorant.

thankyougrandma

there's a lot of violent crimes in the state of Iraq...