How women pick mates vs. flings

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edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
How women pick mates vs. flings
Chiseled men catch the eye, but do rounder faces make for better partners?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16444786/

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By Abigail W. Leonard

Science might be able to explain our fascination with Brad Pitt's chiseled jaw and George Clooney's smoldering eyes.
Women seem to judge potential mates by how masculine their features are, new research shows. Men with square jaws and well-defined brow ridges are seen as good short-term partners, while those with more feminine traits such as a rounder face and fuller lips are perceived as better long-term mates.
In the study, 854 male and female subjects viewed a series of male head shots that had been digitally altered to exaggerate or minimize masculine traits. The participants then answered questions about how they expected the men in the photos to behave.
Overwhelmingly, participants said those with more masculine features were likely to be risky and competitive and also more apt to fight, challenge bosses, cheat on spouses and put less effort into parenting. Those with more feminine faces were seen as good parents and husbands, hard workers and emotionally supportive mates.*
Despite all the negative attributes, when asked who they would choose for a short-term relationship, women still selected the more masculine looking men.* Brad and George then would be picks for a brief romance, if not the long haul.
The study, detailed in the December issue of the journal Personal Relationships, reached conclusions similar to research published earlier last year in Britain.
The new study's author, Daniel Kruger at the University of Michigan's School of Public Health, said that from an evolutionary perspective, it makes sense women would view more masculine-looking men as potential flings and less masculine-looking ones as long-term partners.*
The key, he said, is testosterone, the hormone responsible for development of masculine facial features and other secondary sexual characteristics.
Testosterone is necessary for development, but can also have detrimental health effects. It has been shown, for example, to interfere with the body's immune response, so men who are able to maintain high levels of the hormone are typically strong and healthy — traits women would want to pass on to their progeny.
Prone to stray?
Increased testosterone has also been linked to male cheating and violence in relationships, so while these men might produce high quality offspring, they don't always make great parents or faithful mates, Kruger says.*
The study suggests women could be equipped to use seemingly superficial characteristics "as a cue to pick up on trends in these behavioral strategies," Kruger said.
There are plenty of these signals in the animal world. Male peacocks' huge, outrageous tails can make foraging for food and evading predators difficult, but the plumage, which many researchers say indicates male fitness, is so effective at luring females that the trait has been preserved in the population, Kruger points out.
While the findings are compelling, the scientific community has typically greeted the field of physiognomy, which links facial characteristics to certain behavioral traits, with skepticism.
Kruger argues, however, that the research is a valuable tool for understanding mating strategies. And, of course, for explaining how Pitt and Clooney managed to snag People Magazine's "Sexiest Man Alive" title two times each — it might have to do with their genes, but could also have something to do with ours.
"Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand

"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    How about the ones who fall in love on the internet, without even seeing the person. Do we just chalk that up to stupidity? Guys can be lumped into that too. That whole desperation/I need thing!
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  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    even flow? wrote:
    How about the ones who fall in love on the internet, without even seeing the person. Do we just chalk that up to stupidity? Guys can be lumped into that too. That whole desperation/I need thing!
    I think this is interesting. They should conduct a survey or experiment to see what kind of person the woman imagines when she talks to someone online. Depending on the language and the way the guy expresses himself, I bet the woman would either form a more feminine or masculine look for the person she's talking to.

    If she falls in love with the guy, they can ask her what she thinks the guy looks like and then compare with the results from this experiment.
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    qtegirl wrote:
    I think this is interesting. They should conduct a survey or experiment to see what kind of person the woman imagines when she talks to someone online. Depending on the language and the way the guy expresses himself, I bet the woman would either form a more feminine or masculine look for the person she's talking to.

    If she falls in love with the guy, they can ask her what she thinks the guy looks like and then compare with the results from this experiment.

    I am not knocking the looks part. But I think that after the infatuation with the looks if the guy/gal is a meathead. And you are still in love with the looks? While you just may be quite shallow.

    As for the internet. I just think that you are not right if somebody can lead you astray or get into your head with just words. See the looks comment above. :)
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,394
    What about the girls who are indifferent to the whole relationship thing, and find it not to be the esense of their lives?

    Yes, I have more important things to do than go on dates and search for a soulmate and other bullshit like that.
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  • This is an interesting subject. Sometimes, we are attracted to guys for precisely the same reason that they would not be good mates, such as the fact that they are wild or mysterious.

    While talking to someone on the internet, we are more focused on what he has to say and what words he uses. It is easy to begin to like someone in this way. The next big question is if he is showing his true personality or just saying what he thinks we want to hear.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Rapunzel64 wrote:
    This is an interesting subject. Sometimes, we are attracted to guys for precisely the same reason that they would not be good mates, such as the fact that they are wild or mysterious.

    While talking to someone on the internet, we are more focused on what he has to say and what words he uses. It is easy to begin to like someone in this way. The next big question is if he is showing his true personality or just saying what he thinks we want to hear.

    But you're presuming a relationship, or an attraction, to be just one way traffic. You could just as easily turn this argument on it's head.
  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    What about the girls who are indifferent to the whole relationship thing, and find it not to be the esense of their lives?

    Yes, I have more important things to do than go on dates and search for a soulmate and other bullshit like that.
    What about those girls?

    I assume they are not part of the study. Why are you getting so worked up over this?
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    What about the girls who are indifferent to the whole relationship thing, and find it not to be the esense of their lives?

    Yes, I have more important things to do than go on dates and search for a soulmate and other bullshit like that.
    I can't imagine anything more important in life than finding love. Whether it be family, friends or a lover. It's amazing the different priorities that people have.
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