McCain says Roe v. Wade should be overturned
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I used to think McCain was one of the few republicans I could vote for because he was more his own man and didn't pander to the right. I guess he realized that he has to stick his nose up the conservative right's ass to get the nomination and now he's willing to do that. Too bad, he's lost my vote.
McCain says Roe v. Wade should be overturned
Presidential hopeful reaching out to GOP conservatives
SPARTANBURG, S.C. - Republican presidential candidate John McCain, looking to improve his standing with the party’s conservative voters, said Sunday the court decision that legalized abortion should be overturned.
“I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned,” the Arizona senator told about 800 people in South Carolina, one of the early voting states.
McCain also vowed that if elected, he would appoint judges who “strictly interpret the Constitution of the United States and do not legislate from the bench.”
The landmark 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade gave women the right to choose an abortion to terminate a pregnancy. The Supreme Court has narrowly upheld the decision, with the presence of an increasing number of more conservative justices on the court raising the possibility that abortion rights would be limited.
Social conservatives are a critical voting bloc in the GOP presidential primaries.
McCain’s campaign also announced early Sunday that he had been endorsed by former Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating, who had been considering his own bid for the White House, and former Texas Sen. Phil Gramm, who failed in his bid for the Republican nomination in 1996.
Keating told the crowd that McCain is the “only candidate who is a true-blue, Ronald Reagan conservative.”
McCain later attended an evening rally promoting an abstinence program. He told the crowd of more than 1,000 teens and parents that young people have pressures far different from the ones he faced while growing up. “Sometimes I’ve made the wrong choice,” McCain said.
He also talked about his experience as a prisoner of war during Vietnam, and described some of the torture he suffered. His captors “wanted to make us do things that we otherwise wouldn’t do,” including confessing to war crimes, McCain said.
He and fellow prisoners were beat up for practicing their religion, but they continued to do it. “Sometimes it is very difficult to do the right thing,” he said.
McCain has strong name recognition and the largest network of supporters in South Carolina. That backing comes in part from his staunch support for the Iraq war, something on which he focused a day earlier in Iowa. But it’s the same state that dealt a crushing blow to his presidential aspirations in 2000.
McCain is trying to build support among conservatives after a recent rebuke from Christian leader James Dobson, who said he wouldn’t back McCain’s presidential bid. Conservatives question McCain’s opposition to a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. He opposes same-sex marriage, but says it should be regulated by the states.
McCain says Roe v. Wade should be overturned
Presidential hopeful reaching out to GOP conservatives
SPARTANBURG, S.C. - Republican presidential candidate John McCain, looking to improve his standing with the party’s conservative voters, said Sunday the court decision that legalized abortion should be overturned.
“I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned,” the Arizona senator told about 800 people in South Carolina, one of the early voting states.
McCain also vowed that if elected, he would appoint judges who “strictly interpret the Constitution of the United States and do not legislate from the bench.”
The landmark 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade gave women the right to choose an abortion to terminate a pregnancy. The Supreme Court has narrowly upheld the decision, with the presence of an increasing number of more conservative justices on the court raising the possibility that abortion rights would be limited.
Social conservatives are a critical voting bloc in the GOP presidential primaries.
McCain’s campaign also announced early Sunday that he had been endorsed by former Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating, who had been considering his own bid for the White House, and former Texas Sen. Phil Gramm, who failed in his bid for the Republican nomination in 1996.
Keating told the crowd that McCain is the “only candidate who is a true-blue, Ronald Reagan conservative.”
McCain later attended an evening rally promoting an abstinence program. He told the crowd of more than 1,000 teens and parents that young people have pressures far different from the ones he faced while growing up. “Sometimes I’ve made the wrong choice,” McCain said.
He also talked about his experience as a prisoner of war during Vietnam, and described some of the torture he suffered. His captors “wanted to make us do things that we otherwise wouldn’t do,” including confessing to war crimes, McCain said.
He and fellow prisoners were beat up for practicing their religion, but they continued to do it. “Sometimes it is very difficult to do the right thing,” he said.
McCain has strong name recognition and the largest network of supporters in South Carolina. That backing comes in part from his staunch support for the Iraq war, something on which he focused a day earlier in Iowa. But it’s the same state that dealt a crushing blow to his presidential aspirations in 2000.
McCain is trying to build support among conservatives after a recent rebuke from Christian leader James Dobson, who said he wouldn’t back McCain’s presidential bid. Conservatives question McCain’s opposition to a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. He opposes same-sex marriage, but says it should be regulated by the states.
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yes b/c there has never been a candidate elected who has felt that way :rolleyes:
I don't think the problem is that he believes this. It's the fact that McCain was always seen as a pretty moderate Republican and now in a desperate act to please the Christian right he is bowing to their pressure.
Not only that, but mccain had support from some dems., but now that is gone he is unelectable. I used to like the man, now he has turned into an dribbling idiot
it'll be interesting to see how each candidate chosses to pander to some interest group.
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They all do it. I'm not trying to say that McCain is the only one. Prior to the 2000 Presidential race McCain came across, to me at least, as a man who stood for his beliefs and wasn't the type to conform to the party line if it was contrary to his personal belief. After the 2000 election that image I had of him went down the drain and after this recent event all ideas of him being his own man are gone. It's sad that in order to become president in this country you have to shelf your beliefs in order to gain votes.
Who cares if he is for "states rights" if it means rights that are taken away from a woman's choice of having abortion as an option for an unwanted pregnancy (within the legal time limits)?
1) those rights never existed in the constitution
2) the myth of the pro-choice movement is that overturning roe v. wade would suddenly make abortion illegal. it wouldn't.
im pro-choice. but i favor overturning roe v. wade. fancy that? it was a dumb ruling that backfired on a liberal court by giving fuel to a crazy right wing religious movement that has been able to rally around abortion ever since. take that away and their fire will cool. in addition, women's advocates have become too complacent, banking on roe v wade to back them so they don't have to work as hard. most americans support abortion rights. let them come to the polls on a state by state basis. and let people mold their states to represent their views. the USA is not homogeneous, each region has its own flavor and the country works best when that is the case.
as to mccain, he's just doing smart politics. that's how bush beat him in the 2000 primary... by moving further to the right. so mccain is going to try the same thing to secure the nomination. then he'll move back to the center for the election.
Personally I think that would be the best thing to happen. I believe that it should be determined by each state wether abortion is legal. Secondly it would finally remove this issue from our national politics which in my opinion plays to great a role in determining our national leaders.
yeah, that's what i was trying to say... you stated it much more plainly. let's make this a non-issue and let advocates lobby on a more local level instead of having our national politics dominated by religious debate.
The problem I see with letting the issue of abortion supercede states rights is that you set a precident. What is to stop other issues from doing the same. As much as I believe that it is a woman's right I don't think that Roe v. Wade was a good decision based on the fact that it supercedes the rights of a state.
I agree it's a terrible legal decision and should be overturned. But most people will just hear I think it should be overturned...meaning that he's pandering to the christian right...they don't care about states rights...they care about Roe being overturned. B/c Roe being overturned equates him to being against abortion; in their mind. So he can still appear moderate (not saying abortion should be stopped) but he can also appease that demographic by saying it should be overturned.
if they did overturn roe v wade, there is one possible significant difference. i suppose some states could make having an abortion a felony, like murder. and women who travel out of state to have an abortion would be convicted of murder if they return home. we'll see how long that stays popular.
i am completely in favor of community rights, and smaller governments. let communities deal with the results of their own policies, it should help them progress.
as for McCain, he proved how much of a typical bullshit politician he is the moment he backed George W Bush in 2000. this is just another case of pandering to further his career.
Dennis Kucinich won't!
mccain is a tool, i used to have respect for him but not after he rolled over after the bush campaign flat out lied about him in the 2000 primaries, had disabled vets say he voted against helping wounded vets and other stuff concerning vets...which was a lie and then bush wins and mccain gives him a hug...wtf? where's your spine?
there's a funny scene in the doc why we fight where he's being asked about all the no-bid contracts and mccain flat out said if he were in charge he'd have opened up investigations into the contracts...then he realizes what he's saying and there's a camera and starts backpeddling, it's hillarious
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
exactly! mccain was actually beating bush in the primaries then his campaign started questioning his mental facilities, spreading lies about him...how the hell can he turn around and support him after that and give him a hug no less!?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
yes, and that's prob one reason he will never win (which is too bad...i'd love a candidate with a spine).
those examples are exactly what is wrong with our politics. No one can tell you why to vote for themselves, they can just tell you how dirty the other guy is and why you shouldn't vote for them.
It's one of the banes of party politics.
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Not to stray off topic but I was watching Real Time on Friday and it was refreshing to hear what John Edwards had to say. Not that i agree with him on certain things, increasing taxes to pay for healthcare, but it was refreshing to hear a politician be honest. he didn't use the tired excuse of being tricked into voting to give the president authority to invade Iraq. he simply stated that he was wrong and had made a mistake. As for his healthcare plan, he was honest about it and made an unpopular statement by saying that he would raise taxes.
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they could probly strike that down by full faith and credit or interstate commerce clauses. shit, no state would be able to enforce it anyway. they wouldn't have jurisdiction to arrest and prosecute someone for murder in another state unless it was a federal crime. this thought did occur to me, but it would never fly. they'd never be able to legally accomplish it. though it'd be a pain in the ass for their first guinea pig prosecution.
"As a measure of the campaign's competitiveness, Mr. McCain has hired as part of his political team advisers he denounced after they skewered him in the 2000 primary against Mr. Bush.
He has hired members of the media team and the firm that produced what Mr. McCain called "dishonest and dishonorable" commercials for the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth group that attacked Democrat John Kerry.
In addition, the $1 million that Mr. McCain transferred from his Senate account to his presidential exploratory committee includes $4,200 from Houston homebuilder Bob Perry. Mr. Perry was the top contributor to Swift Boat Veterans.
Mr. McCain said he's "very proud" of the political team he has assembled and the support he has received.
"These are some of the best in the Republican Party, and I'm very happy to have them," he said. "People don't like sore losers. I've moved forward."
A woman's right to choose should never be in question.
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I agree.