Sexism on the Pearl Jam boards...

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  • chipboy
    chipboy Posts: 137
    soulsinging wrote:
    there was no debate. did you read the thread? she was asking about feeling off and being miserable so we were all tossing out suggestions. i dont think her being female had anything to do with the suggestion... minus the movie tie-in. if it had been me it probly woulda been the same post only with a brokeback mountain reference. ;)

    Actually there is a scene in that movie where one guy does grab the other guys ass so I could fit you in there too if you are feeling stressed.
  • CenterCity
    CenterCity Posts: 193
    chipboy wrote:
    Did you see the movie I was talking about?


    no. but clearly it was about sex; all the more reason why the situation makes sense.
    I need to finish writing.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    chipboy wrote:
    I must be just a dumb guy because I missed the whole debate.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=202159
    chipboy wrote:
    Without sounding sexist....is this one of those women things where you just want to tell us what's wrong without actually wanting us to try and solve the problem? I'm always slow to pick up on that.
    Lesson in life, if the lady does not specifically ask for your opinion or help then she only wants you to listen.
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
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  • aoife
    aoife Posts: 126
    BackwardsBlues1 wrote:
    I really don't get how people who clearly hate women, and have such messed up views about them, can be pearl jam fans.
    what sexism? is this the kind of thing where guys say girls are goodlooking and for some reason its sexist -coz thats a load of shit, your either complemented or your jealous. i havent noticed any other kind of sexism, maybe your a bit too sensitive, and by the way im a girl
    "If you remove the English army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin castle, unless you set about the organisation of the socialist republic then all of your efforts would have been in vain. England will still rule you through her capitalists ,landlords and commercial institutions"
  • chipboy
    chipboy Posts: 137
    CenterCity wrote:
    no. but clearly it was about sex; all the more reason why the situation makes sense.

    Rent it and then you'll see where I made the connection.

    http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1800206651&cf=info
  • Deeve
    Deeve Posts: 122
    this is amusing....

    people say things on the internet that they would not say face to face. get used to it.

    And I read the other thread. Didn't sound sexist to me. Sounded like you need to get sexed up good to make you feel better.
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  • MCG
    MCG Posts: 780
    eddie's grrl wrote:
    but what does that MEAN, exactly? just wondering. i mean, are you assuming that because the person you're talking to can't punch you in the face if you say something rude, then it's okay to be rude? i've always wondered what people mean when they say that "it's the internet!" like "whoo-hoo, let's just act like obnoxious assholes, it's cyberspace after all!" :rolleyes:

    i think you should treat each other the same way here that you would in person. call me kooky. :p

    One of the fantasies the internet gives people is chance to portray a side of themselves that might not otherwise exist because here they don't have a face or a history. You might even say their username is like a new identity. Message boards like this have given everyone in the world with access the license to say things they would not ordinarily say in front of a large group of people, sometimes those things are inappropriate. It's just the nature of the beast.
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  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    aoife wrote:
    what sexism? is this the kind of thing where guys say girls are goodlooking and for some reason its sexist -coz thats a load of shit, your either complemented or your jealous.

    I'm sorry, but that just made me laugh. It's like you're in junior high or something: you're just jealous!
    aoife wrote:
    i havent noticed any other kind of sexism, maybe your a bit too sensitive, and by the way im a girl

    Just because you're a "girl" doesn't mean you can't be a hater.
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    VictoryGin wrote:
    Just because you're a "girl" doesn't mean you can't be a hater.

    hehe, what's a hater? is that like a playa-hata?
  • Carlos D
    Carlos D Posts: 638
    This thread is sexist,why do u assume it's only males who are sexist?
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    But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Carlos D wrote:
    This thread is sexist,why do u assume it's only males who are sexist?

    BURN!!!

    i like you :)
  • Pegasus
    Pegasus Posts: 3,754
    The post was rude (though might have been meant as just a tease), but frankly, the starter of the thread was annoying as hell with her moaning (though just ignoring the thread would have been simpler)...I wanted to puke by the end of the post.

    But only an American would take that comment as sexist...she lives in the UK?? my god with all teh sexual banter here, she must be having fits everyday!


    I'm a woman btw, before anyone jumps on me :)
  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    soulsinging wrote:
    hehe, what's a hater? is that like a playa-hata?

    yeah kinda.

    Carlos D wrote:
    This thread is sexist,why do u assume it's only males who are sexist?

    perhaps the better term for the original complaint is misogynist people/posts. regardless, maybe i missed the part where the original post said only males could be sexist?
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  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    chipboy wrote:
    Actually there is a scene in that movie where one guy does grab the other guys ass so I could fit you in there too if you are feeling stressed.


    exactly.

    hey, i thought it hysterical...and believe me, i get accused of being 'too PC' often. hell, when 'off-balance'...we can all use more sex, nothing sexist about that. gettin' laid is quite a cure-all. :)

    eddie's grrl wrote:
    but what does that MEAN, exactly? just wondering. i mean, are you assuming that because the person you're talking to can't punch you in the face if you say something rude, then it's okay to be rude? i've always wondered what people mean when they say that "it's the internet!" like "whoo-hoo, let's just act like obnoxious assholes, it's cyberspace after all!" :rolleyes:

    i think you should treat each other the same way here that you would in person. call me kooky. :p



    absolute agreement. i think far too many take license with the fact that we are not face to face. however, also have to consider....we are completely missing TONE here. in person, i am sure chipboy's post would've come off exactly as it was intended, as humor. :) given the contents of the thread, it did read as humor, and if one read all the posts...more than likely that would be evident. however, far too often we lose so much through written words alone....so difficult to judge at times.
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  • aoife
    aoife Posts: 126
    Deeve wrote:
    this is amusing....

    people say things on the internet that they would not say face to face. get used to it.

    And I read the other thread. Didn't sound sexist to me. Sounded like you need to get sexed up good to make you feel better.
    :)
    "If you remove the English army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin castle, unless you set about the organisation of the socialist republic then all of your efforts would have been in vain. England will still rule you through her capitalists ,landlords and commercial institutions"
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Pegasus wrote:
    The post was rude (though might have been meant as just a tease), but frankly, the starter of the thread was annoying as hell with her moaning (though just ignoring the thread would have been simpler)...I wanted to puke by the end of the post.

    But only an American would take that comment as sexist...she lives in the UK?? my god with all teh sexual banter here, she must be having fits everyday!


    I'm a woman btw, before anyone jumps on me :)

    carolina, not england. but i agree. i didnt see anything sexist in that post. it was clearly an attempt to cheer her up or make her laugh.
  • aoife
    aoife Posts: 126
    VictoryGin wrote:
    I'm sorry, but that just made me laugh. It's like you're in junior high or something: you're just jealous!



    Just because you're a "girl" doesn't mean you can't be a hater.
    what the fuck is junior high.
    "If you remove the English army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin castle, unless you set about the organisation of the socialist republic then all of your efforts would have been in vain. England will still rule you through her capitalists ,landlords and commercial institutions"
  • Carlos D
    Carlos D Posts: 638
    VictoryGin wrote:
    yeah kinda.




    perhaps the better term for the original complaint is misogynist people/posts. regardless, maybe i missed the part where the original post said only males could be sexist?

    WEll you weren't paying attention then
    '' really don't get how people who clearly hate women, and have such messed up views about them, can be pearl jam fans.''

    And
    ''I think it's stuff that a lot of people pass off as being jokes or just immaturity or boys will be boys, whathaveyou. But it still not only hurts me but boggles my mind.''

    Very sexist towards males.
    It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
    But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    VictoryGin wrote:
    yeah kinda.

    ok, i blew it there... i dont know what a playa-hata is either. so what's a hater in the context you used it?
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Carlos D wrote:
    WEll you weren't paying attention then
    '' really don't get how people who clearly hate women, and have such messed up views about them, can be pearl jam fans.''


    yea, i have to say...that's a bit far over the line. first of all...i got no 'woman-hating' at ALL from that particular post, i read it completely as HUMOR...besides the fact...yea, i believe chipboy is long-married?...and sounds rather happily so? i've read many of his posts, and many are filled with much humor....i think it a bit over the top to label someone as a 'woman-hater'...from one post. besides the fact, i find it VERY amusing...the whole....'i don't know how _____________ can be pearl jam fans." like being a pj fan would ever make someone somehow 'better'...different, etc. odd.
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