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Flannel ShirtFlannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
edited November 2008 in A Moving Train
what is with the talk of her running for president in 2012? has the media lost their minds? if this is an idea by republicans, do they really want to lose worse next time? seriously. she arguably cost McCain the election and people think she has a shot to win by herself??????!!!!!!!!!

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    what is with the talk of her running for president in 2012? has the media lost their minds? if this is an idea by republicans, do they really want to lose worse next time? seriously. she arguably cost McCain the election and people think she has a shot to win by herself??????!!!!!!!!!

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

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  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    I was leaning towards voting for mcCain until she came along.
    What a crock of shit. …….the media, I swear.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    what is with the talk of her running for president in 2012? has the media lost their minds? if this is an idea by republicans, do they really want to lose worse next time? seriously. she arguably cost McCain the election and people think she has a shot to win by herself??????!!!!!!!!!

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    hahaha april fool!!!! no wait its november isnt it?? :eek:

    what an horrendous thought to have in my head. even if it is just a media beatup. imo but she wont be back. but then again who knows what her intentions will be.
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    http://www.bustedtees.com/palinplumber2012?utm_medium=emailED&utm_source=110608&utm_campaign=PalinPlumber
  • ClariceClarice Posts: 256
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    has the media lost their minds?
    yes, they do.
  • Surf RiderSurf Rider Posts: 813
    edited March 2009
    You would think this was laughable, but this is the United States. I wouldn't be surprised if a Britney Spears/Paris Hilton ticket wouldn't come close to winning an election here.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJAMEDVED wrote:
    You would think this was laughable, but this [size=+2]is[/size] the United States. I wouldn't be surprised if a Britney Spears/Paris Hilton ticket wouldn't come close to winning an election here.

    id vote for britney. shes crazy like me. :D:D
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    what is with the talk of her running for president in 2012? has the media lost their minds? if this is an idea by republicans, do they really want to lose worse next time? seriously. she arguably cost McCain the election and people think she has a shot to win by herself??????!!!!!!!!!

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!


    i just saw this on msn when i signed on. wtf are they thinking? granted, we have 4 years ahead of us and a LOT can happen, but i would think if this election proved nothing else, is that america does not want a sarah palin in the executive office.
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  • DerrickDerrick Posts: 475
    Assuming Obama doesn't screw up royally, if I were republican I would consider 2012 a wash and start grooming a team for 2016. Maybe it's reverse racism, but the republicans are going to have to make serious headway with minority groups, because minority groups will become the overwhelming majority (as a whole) over the next 8 years.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    The GOP needs to find a leader for their party and Palin is not it. If they even want to compete in 2010, the mid-terms, and then again in 2012 they need strong vocal leadership NOW. Just like when Clinto came into office they had Gingrich ready to stand up to the administration and rally the base. Right now there is no one like that in the GOP. Also they need to stop catering solely to the Christian Right. That type of mentality may have won them the 2000 and 2004 election but it's not cutting it anymore. They need to someone who will lead the party back to it's roots of limited government and fiscal responsibility and again Palin is not the person to do that.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    She is the darling of social conservatives, so I can see why they are pushing it.

    They only possible way that she could pull it off, is if she got Steven's senate spot and resurrected her reputation. Going back to Alaska, no matter how well she does there, isn't going to get her the attention that she needs.

    And being governor, especially from a state that far away, would put a damper on all of the early campaigning that needs to be done. There is talk about Huckabee going to Iowa this month... How is a sitting governor going to be able to spend that much time out of her state?
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    I think the beans that were spilled yesterday regarding Palin by McCain campaign staffers pretty much sunk any hope of this waterhead bimbo from Alaska running for anything in the future.

    She may need to brush up on a few key things like NAFTA and Wolrd Geography before she throws her hat in the political ring again.

    She was lucky to make it as far as she did.

    Too bad the rest of the world identifies her as the Crowned Queen of Stupid
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    PJAMEDVED wrote:
    You would think this was laughable, but this [size=+2]is[/size] the United States. I wouldn't be surprised if a Britney Spears/Paris Hilton ticket wouldn't come close to winning an election here.

    i think this pretty much sums it up and is spot on!
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Gonzo1977 wrote:

    Too bad the rest of the world identifies her as the Crowned Queen of Stupid



    actually, i think that's a GOOD thing for us all...and a pretty fair and accurate assessment. :) she scares the bejeebus outta me! if the reps have her as a prez candidate in 2012, it will just further prove their vast disconnect with most of america.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    political parties are slow learners. look at the dems. after nominating a boring, empty suit like Gore, they did the exact same thing next election and nominated Kerry.

    she will definately be in the running next election. the social conservatives arent dead yet...
  • Jack_C_GregoryJack_C_Gregory Posts: 540
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    She may need to brush up on a few key things like NAFTA and Wolrd Geography before she throws her hat in the political ring again.

    Stupid

    Yeah, she should be on that show Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader.
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Someone better get her a globe first, so she can figure out the difference between countries and continents! :eek:
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    To play Devil's advocate: In four years, she'll be more experienced, basically negating her biggest flaw.

    Also, she'll be running against an incumbent, and if Obama is half the messiah he says he is, nobody will be able to beat him anyway.
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  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    MrSmith wrote:
    political parties are slow learners. look at the dems. after nominating a boring, empty suit like Gore, they did the exact same thing next election and nominated Kerry.

    she will definately be in the running next election. the social conservatives arent dead yet...

    In fact, I think the social conservatives will come back even stronger. I got stuck listening to right-wing radio on my drive home the day after the election and those folks were pissed. A lot of conservatives weren't fully behind McCain and those hosts were all saying it was time to reassess the direction of the party and quit pandering to the middle since the people who weren't true believers would never come into the fold. Granted, radio personalities such as Dennis Miller, Laura Ingraham and Rush Limbaugh are paid to be over the top, but a lot of people listen to them and take their words as from on high.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    slightofjeff wrote:
    To play Devil's advocate: In four years, she'll be more experienced, basically negating her biggest flaw.

    Also, she'll be running against an incumbent, and if Obama is half the messiah he says he is, nobody will be able to beat him anyway.

    her biggest flaw is that she uneducated ... you can list her degrees and her "experience" all you want but bush graduated from yale ... we all know that shit means nothing if you don't know how the executive branch works in the gov't she hopes to lead ...

    it was in fact her "experience" that was the only thing anyone positive could say about her ...
  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    slightofjeff wrote:
    To play Devil's advocate: In four years, she'll be more experienced, basically negating her biggest flaw.

    Also, she'll be running against an incumbent, and if Obama is half the messiah he says he is, nobody will be able to beat him anyway.


    In four years, she will have even more executive experience than Obama.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    polaris wrote:
    her biggest flaw is that she uneducated ... you can list her degrees and her "experience" all you want but bush graduated from yale ... we all know that shit means nothing if you don't know how the executive branch works in the gov't she hopes to lead ...

    it was in fact her "experience" that was the only thing anyone positive could say about her ...

    You've contradicted yourself in your own post ... Palin is "uneducated" ... but Bush went to Yale, so what difference does it make?

    Her lack of experience -- "I can see Russia from my house" -- was the No. 1 reason people who would otherwise be inclined to support her did not. That won't be a problem in 2012.

    Now, by then, there might be another candidate that's more appealing. I don't know. But I do know it's silly to discount Palin as a candidate in four years, based on her resume in 2008.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    meistereder wrote:
    In four years, she will have even more executive experience than Obama.

    Actually, I think in four years, the gap would still be the same ... you're just (ostensibly) adding four years to each side of the ledger.
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  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    slightofjeff wrote:
    You've contradicted yourself in your own post ... Palin is "uneducated" ... but Bush went to Yale, so what difference does it make?

    Her lack of experience -- "I can see Russia from my house" -- was the No. 1 reason people who would otherwise be inclined to support her did not. That won't be a problem in 2012.

    Now, by then, there might be another candidate that's more appealing. I don't know. But I do know it's silly to discount Palin as a candidate in four years, based on her resume in 2008.


    Honestly, I don't think her lack of experience was the reason people did not back her. It was her lack of understanding. Big difference.
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  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Actually, I think in four years, the gap would still be the same ... you're just (ostensibly) adding four years to each side of the ledger.


    Right, but 6 years is even more impressive than 4 years.
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  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    meistereder wrote:
    Honestly, I don't think her lack of experience was the reason people did not back her. It was her lack of understanding. Big difference.

    For me her hostility and blatant anger was as much a turn-off as her lack of experience.
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  • sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    all i have to say is, "who let the obama out?"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpl053r_t0
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    sweet adeline wrote:
    all i have to say is, "who let the obama out?"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpl053r_t0
    Dude that was totally me on Tuesday night.
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  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    what is with the talk of her running for president in 2012? has the media lost their minds? if this is an idea by republicans, do they really want to lose worse next time? seriously. she arguably cost McCain the election and people think she has a shot to win by herself??????!!!!!!!!!

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!


    i think it's more the idiot media driving it and these questions than her or the GOP
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  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    meistereder wrote:
    Right, but 6 years is even more impressive than 4 years.

    Yeah, and six years of being the governor of the smallest state in the union should count more towards experience than four years as the POTUS. Makes sense.
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