Hillary invokes RFK assassination
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Hillary invokes RFK assassination Posted: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:23 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: Clinton, Obama
From NBC's Mark Murray and Domenico Montanaro
This might not help the Hillary-for-veep chatter... The New York Post writes, "Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama. 'My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it,' she said, dismissing calls to drop out."
"Clinton made her comments at a meeting with the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader's editorial board while campaigning in South Dakota, where she complained that, 'People have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa.'"
Obama spokesman Bill Burton responded to Clinton's remarks. "Senator Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign."
NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli notes that Clinton said something similar the day after the Indiana and North Carolina primaries. "Sometimes you gotta calm people down a little bit. But if you look at successful presidential campaigns, my husband did not get the nomination until June of 1992," she said. "I remember tragically when Senator Kennedy won California near the end of that process."
In fact, the specter of assassination was first raised in this campaign on January 8, when a Clinton introducer, a retired teacher from New Hampshire, brought it up before Clinton spoke. "If you look back, some people have been comparing one of the other candidates to JFK, and he was a wonderful leader. He gave us a lot of hope," the retired teacher said. "But he was assassinated, and Lyndon Baines Johnson actually did all of his work and got both the Republicans and Democrats to pass those measures."
Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithe just said to a group of reporters in South Dakota -- including Memoli -- that this is "one of the more ridiculous" issues that has come up in a long race. The campaign, he said, will soon send out an official comment.
*** UPDATE *** Here is the official statement from Elleithe: "She was simply referencing her husband in 1992 and Bobby kennedy in 1968 as historical expmales of the nominating contest going well into the summer. Any, any reading into it beyond that is inaccurate."
*** UPDATE *** Here is what Clinton said in a quick avail: "I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to and I'm honored to hold sen. Kennedy's seat in the United States Senate in the state of New York, and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family."
Hillary invokes RFK assassination Posted: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:23 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: Clinton, Obama
From NBC's Mark Murray and Domenico Montanaro
This might not help the Hillary-for-veep chatter... The New York Post writes, "Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama. 'My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it,' she said, dismissing calls to drop out."
"Clinton made her comments at a meeting with the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader's editorial board while campaigning in South Dakota, where she complained that, 'People have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa.'"
Obama spokesman Bill Burton responded to Clinton's remarks. "Senator Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign."
NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli notes that Clinton said something similar the day after the Indiana and North Carolina primaries. "Sometimes you gotta calm people down a little bit. But if you look at successful presidential campaigns, my husband did not get the nomination until June of 1992," she said. "I remember tragically when Senator Kennedy won California near the end of that process."
In fact, the specter of assassination was first raised in this campaign on January 8, when a Clinton introducer, a retired teacher from New Hampshire, brought it up before Clinton spoke. "If you look back, some people have been comparing one of the other candidates to JFK, and he was a wonderful leader. He gave us a lot of hope," the retired teacher said. "But he was assassinated, and Lyndon Baines Johnson actually did all of his work and got both the Republicans and Democrats to pass those measures."
Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithe just said to a group of reporters in South Dakota -- including Memoli -- that this is "one of the more ridiculous" issues that has come up in a long race. The campaign, he said, will soon send out an official comment.
*** UPDATE *** Here is the official statement from Elleithe: "She was simply referencing her husband in 1992 and Bobby kennedy in 1968 as historical expmales of the nominating contest going well into the summer. Any, any reading into it beyond that is inaccurate."
*** UPDATE *** Here is what Clinton said in a quick avail: "I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to and I'm honored to hold sen. Kennedy's seat in the United States Senate in the state of New York, and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family."
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Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
This was a bit over the top a'la Alex Jones,
but i just went to the break room at work, and turned on the boobtube for a second ...
caught the last 5 minutes of Keith Olbermann.
MAN, HE RIPPED HER A NEW FUCKING ASSHOLE.
I GOT GOOSE BUMPS.
Only because towards the end of his reaming he went in to the whole "this country's greatest shame is in its political assassinations, and for her to invoke this, intentional or not is unforgiveable."
You really have to see the clip, though.
I don't do it justice. It was worded brilliantly.
"we forgave you this. we forgave you that. we forgave you blah blah blah, but THIS, THIS we can't forgive"
It is Top 10 worthy.
Amazing.
Poetry.
Good stuff.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
Its not just denial.
Trust me.
She is LIVID,
partly because this is probably one of the few times in the Clintons' combined political career where they can't just kill someone and solve their problem.
Once again, people NEED to watch the movie, The Clinton Chronicles.
It's fucking sick.
And its not bullshit.
Its straight up legit.
Those fuckers are criminal killers and felons.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I just watched it on tv a few minutes ago. Truly something to see.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Ba3x-name0
i figured it would make it to youtube in short order.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
the excuse she is using is that 'the Kennedys have been "much on my mind these days" with the illness of Senator Edward Kennedy'.
so explain then Hillary, why you said the same thing two months ago? Before Senator Kennedy's illness was even known.
lapse in judgement my ass.
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/05/hillarys_bizarre_rfk_comment.html
Obama providing an actual plan for anything during his campaign: Zero.
Even if you were correct (you are not), it would still be "advantage Obama".
If you don't think he has provided any plans, you aren't looking hard at all. 20+ debates, his website, countless election websites (not affiliated with the network media), etc. are all out there. You are just choosing not to look for them.
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I've said this before, and i'll say it again.
If you ARE correct about Mr. Obama,
then Hillary's "lapse in judgement" is, in reality, likely a veiled threat from the establishment.
just a thought.
but this is why i have had such a tough time believing anything obama says.
because much of what he does preach IS way in the face of the establishment (not nearly so much as Ron Paul though), and if that really were true (meaning, if he really believed in and intended to implement those plans) he would NOT be getting this kind of rabid push from the media (owned by those same interests he is offending) that he is.
It just doesn't add up.
Although,
my suspicion is that what Obama is promising is all "chump change" and that on all the major tenants, he is in line with the globalists. Ie -- open borders, check. Flexibility with the possibility of more war, check. Stealing your money through socialized healthcare, big fat check. Continuing the fiat system, check.
The only things he does seem to be "anti-establishment" on could very well just be ruses that end up screwing us in the end. In otherwords just like Bush and good ole "deregulation" the term is a near-orwellian marketing gimmick
that means not what it says. A lot like "free trade".
And we've already heard the BS double speak coming from the Obama camp on THAT issue. Ie - remember the little leak from his visit to Canada where they said he didn't really mean it? Also the Trilateral commission leaks from Jim Tucker seem to confirm the same sentiment -- the elite is comfortable with the notion that Obama does not intend any REAL "reform" of NAFTA.
God knows Hillary sure as fuck doesn't!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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i completely agree. This was no lapse in judgement. By now she expects to be asked questions regarding pressure to drop out. Its not like she could have been surprised by the line of questioning. By now, i'm sure she has prepared, well rehearsed responses. This was no lapse. It was calculated. One can almost see her give a little wink to one of her most fanatical, uneducated supporters. It almost seems as if she were planting a seed. Disgusting. Even for Cunton.
<looks around for all the hillary supporters to debate w/ in this thread>
.........tumble weed blows by.........
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way