1. I admit myself I am not 'up' on communism so I honestly dont know
Don't worry. Most people "up" on communism don't know either.
2. I mean, right at the back of things, this forum was probably paid for, has to be paid for every month or so, and if it wasnt for us all buying internet connections, we wouldnt be here.
Sure. But we did all those things with a non-monetary purpose, didn't we? We don't pay for our Internet connections for the sake of giving up $25 a month, do we?
3. I didn't mean anyone here, I meant the outrageously rich, who want to get richer.
And what's wrong with wanting to get rich, even if you're already rich?
Don't worry. Most people "up" on communism don't know either.
Sure. But we did all those things with a non-monetary purpose, didn't we? We don't pay for our Internet connections for the sake of giving up $25 a month, do we?
And what's wrong with wanting to get rich, even if you're already rich?
1. Nice to know I'm not the only one!
2. I dont mean like that, there are certain things, like shops, I dont expect them to give stuff free, because the nature of a shop is a trade of money for goods. But even things like charities, and other well intentioned things, in the end sure some of it will go to what needs it, but there is a notable amount of money that goes to lining the pockets of the 'charitable'
3. I just think its too greedy personally, but thats my opinion on it, I think making rich people unable to have more money would be ridiculous, dont get me wrong there.
What I'm basically getting at, is that there seems to be a loss of genuinley nice giving people, I dont expect everyone to donate to charity or do something for their church, I just think its a shame that people that do 'well for themselves' on money terms will still SELL their junk that means nothing to them, but really something to someone else.
No we're not. We just want communism without rules!
Anyway, that was the site's labelleing, not my own. Libertarian Socialist sounds better.
Peace
Dan
"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
Well, it's not like you have to fit it on a business card or anything....
Well, no, but it does.
-Dan, Libertarian Socialist and Sociologist.
Sounds good eh?
Peace
Dan
"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
2. I dont mean like that, there are certain things, like shops, I dont expect them to give stuff free, because the nature of a shop is a trade of money for goods. But even things like charities, and other well intentioned things, in the end sure some of it will go to what needs it, but there is a notable amount of money that goes to lining the pockets of the 'charitable'
Of course! Many "well-intentioned" things tend to end up being corrupt. Why? Because there's no incentive for them to actually be "well-intentioned". If your local shop starts charging you for stuff it never actually gives you, you're not going to pay the bill are you? Communism gets around this issue by sticking a gun in your face and telling you to pay the bill anyway. That's not to say your local shopkeeper coudn't do it as well, but at least in that case you're not paying for the gun the bastard puts in your face.
3. I just think its too greedy personally, but thats my opinion on it, I think making rich people unable to have more money would be ridiculous, dont get me wrong there.
It certainly can be greedy. But greed means that you're taking money you didn't earn. A guy like Steve Jobs (chairman of Apple) was pretty rich in 1999. Then his company came up with thing called the iPod. Now he's much richer. Is that greed? No. He earned that money by giving the world something that the world wanted. All he asked is that the world give something in return. It's known as trading.
What I'm basically getting at, is that there seems to be a loss of genuinley nice giving people, I dont expect everyone to donate to charity or do something for their church, I just think its a shame that people that do 'well for themselves' on money terms will still SELL their junk that means nothing to them, but really something to someone else.
Typically, "their junk" is their labor. And their labor extends from their mind and their body. Every person on the planet has the right to own their own labor and to withhold it from or grant it to others on their own terms.
Of course! Many "well-intentioned" things tend to end up being corrupt. Why? Because there's no incentive for them to actually be "well-intentioned". If your local shop starts charging you for stuff it never actually gives you, you're not going to pay the bill are you? Communism gets around this issue by sticking a gun in your face and telling you to pay the bill anyway. That's not to say your local shopkeeper coudn't do it as well, but at least in that case you're not paying for the gun the bastard puts in your face.
It certainly can be greedy. But greed means that you're taking money you didn't earn. A guy like Steve Jobs (chairman of Apple) was pretty rich in 1999. Then his company came up with thing called the iPod. Now he's much richer. Is that greed? No. He earned that money by giving the world something that the world wanted. All he asked is that the world give something in return. It's known as trading.
Typically, "their junk" is their labor. And their labor extends from their mind and their body. Every person on the planet has the right to own their own labor and to withhold it from or grant it to others on their own terms.
Yeah, they have their right, but its just sad that they feel the need to express this right, if I have something I dont want, I give it to someone else who does want it, I give it free (unless its something expensive, in which case I drastically lower the price) and I am far from any money whatsoever.
Yeah, they have their right, but its just sad that they feel the need to express this right, if I have something I dont want, I give it to someone else who does want it, I give it free (unless its something expensive, in which case I drastically lower the price) and I am far from any money whatsoever.
Certainly, but this applies to all people and is often unfairly charged against the rich. If a rich person should be giving things away that they don't want to don't need, so should a poor person.
Sad, to me, is to pretend that a person's labor or property has no value and is, by default, owed to another. Think of your own job. How would you feel if someone came to you and said, "do this and do that" and took absolutely no account of what's in it for you??? That's slavery.
I think they mean your race as in white/black/etc.
Hmmm. I thought about this one for a while, until I started feeling ridiculous for spending so much time on a question on an internet quiz, haha. It was the "our" that threw me, as I take that to encompass everyone who might be taking the test, which I'd assume would be people of all races. If the statement had been "MY race has many superior qualities," I'd have seen it as a racial question. I said "disagree" when I was thinking of it as a species question, and I'd say "strongly disagree" to the racial question, so I don't suppose it made much difference.
I think they're asking your opinion. For example I "STRONGLY AGREE" here because my personal definition of art requires a representation of something. But I completely understand someone who would disagree with the statement.
Another very badly worded question. The word "shouldn't" implies that I don't think anyone ought to consider it art. I don't care for abstract art myself, but I don't care what anyone else hangs on their walls.
I'm told that I tend to over-think these types of things. The test we had to take during our pre-marital counseling almost ended the marriage before it began. It may have caused our counselor to explore other career options too.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
Oh, it was awful! It was supposedly a "compatibility" test, with statements like "I get nervous riding or driving in heavy traffic."
Well, which is it, riding or driving? If I'm not driving, who is? I mean, if my brother is driving, I'm fine. If it's my friend Wendy, I'm bailing at the next stop sign. Do I know the area, or did I just breeze into town? How's the weather ... rain, ice, snow? Mid-afternoon, or closing time?
150 questions like this! It really is a miracle I ever got married
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
Certainly, but this applies to all people and is often unfairly charged against the rich. If a rich person should be giving things away that they don't want to don't need, so should a poor person.
Sad, to me, is to pretend that a person's labor or property has no value and is, by default, owed to another. Think of your own job. How would you feel if someone came to you and said, "do this and do that" and took absolutely no account of what's in it for you??? That's slavery.
If you were forced into it it would be, but yeah I catch your drift
Oh, it was awful! It was supposedly a "compatibility" test, with statements like "I get nervous riding or driving in heavy traffic."
Well, which is it, riding or driving? If I'm not driving, who is? I mean, if my brother is driving, I'm fine. If it's my friend Wendy, I'm bailing at the next stop sign. Do I know the area, or did I just breeze into town? How's the weather ... rain, ice, snow? Mid-afternoon, or closing time?
150 questions like this! It really is a miracle I ever got married
How dare you put your name on that??? Not very collective of you.
I'm still an individual and I still have my name. (My name is longer, but I dont care to post it here. ) Collectivism is not about erasing yourself, but about cooperation with others for the betterment of our society. So there
And abook, wow!
Peace
Dan
"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
This is a very amateurish, poorly worded quiz. There are some questions where my beliefs lie predominantly one way, but I had to answer the opposite due to questions that contained absolutes. Whoever made this up, needs to not skip class the day they discuss how to design surveys.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.46
There was questions that i would have been in between on but as they had only agree or disagree it was kinda impossible to remain on the fence - so to say.
Anyhow i don't think i really belong down the scale near ghandi - i'm not really into the non violence thing as he was nor am i a racist as he is said to have been ..................
" You cannot throw a rope around the neck of an idea" .....Bobby Sands.
I'm still an individual and I still have my name. (My name is longer, but I dont care to post it here. ) Collectivism is not about erasing yourself, but about cooperation with others for the betterment of our society. So there
This is a very amateurish, poorly worded quiz. There are some questions where my beliefs lie predominantly one way, but I had to answer the opposite due to questions that contained absolutes. Whoever made this up, needs to not skip class the day they discuss how to design surveys.
Anyhow i don't think i really belong down the scale near ghandi - i'm not really into the non violence thing as he was nor am i a racist as he is said to have been ..................
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Don't worry. Most people "up" on communism don't know either.
Sure. But we did all those things with a non-monetary purpose, didn't we? We don't pay for our Internet connections for the sake of giving up $25 a month, do we?
And what's wrong with wanting to get rich, even if you're already rich?
1. Nice to know I'm not the only one!
2. I dont mean like that, there are certain things, like shops, I dont expect them to give stuff free, because the nature of a shop is a trade of money for goods. But even things like charities, and other well intentioned things, in the end sure some of it will go to what needs it, but there is a notable amount of money that goes to lining the pockets of the 'charitable'
3. I just think its too greedy personally, but thats my opinion on it, I think making rich people unable to have more money would be ridiculous, dont get me wrong there.
What I'm basically getting at, is that there seems to be a loss of genuinley nice giving people, I dont expect everyone to donate to charity or do something for their church, I just think its a shame that people that do 'well for themselves' on money terms will still SELL their junk that means nothing to them, but really something to someone else.
there you are.
- brain of c
No we're not. We just want communism without rules!
Anyway, that was the site's labelleing, not my own. Libertarian Socialist sounds better.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
You just made my day
Well, it's not like you have to fit it on a business card or anything....
Well, no, but it does.
-Dan, Libertarian Socialist and Sociologist.
Sounds good eh?
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
Of course! Many "well-intentioned" things tend to end up being corrupt. Why? Because there's no incentive for them to actually be "well-intentioned". If your local shop starts charging you for stuff it never actually gives you, you're not going to pay the bill are you? Communism gets around this issue by sticking a gun in your face and telling you to pay the bill anyway. That's not to say your local shopkeeper coudn't do it as well, but at least in that case you're not paying for the gun the bastard puts in your face.
It certainly can be greedy. But greed means that you're taking money you didn't earn. A guy like Steve Jobs (chairman of Apple) was pretty rich in 1999. Then his company came up with thing called the iPod. Now he's much richer. Is that greed? No. He earned that money by giving the world something that the world wanted. All he asked is that the world give something in return. It's known as trading.
Typically, "their junk" is their labor. And their labor extends from their mind and their body. Every person on the planet has the right to own their own labor and to withhold it from or grant it to others on their own terms.
How dare you put your name on that??? Not very collective of you.
Yeah, they have their right, but its just sad that they feel the need to express this right, if I have something I dont want, I give it to someone else who does want it, I give it free (unless its something expensive, in which case I drastically lower the price) and I am far from any money whatsoever.
there you are.
- brain of c
Certainly, but this applies to all people and is often unfairly charged against the rich. If a rich person should be giving things away that they don't want to don't need, so should a poor person.
Sad, to me, is to pretend that a person's labor or property has no value and is, by default, owed to another. Think of your own job. How would you feel if someone came to you and said, "do this and do that" and took absolutely no account of what's in it for you??? That's slavery.
Another very badly worded question. The word "shouldn't" implies that I don't think anyone ought to consider it art. I don't care for abstract art myself, but I don't care what anyone else hangs on their walls.
I'm told that I tend to over-think these types of things. The test we had to take during our pre-marital counseling almost ended the marriage before it began. It may have caused our counselor to explore other career options too.
That's good irony!
Well, which is it, riding or driving? If I'm not driving, who is? I mean, if my brother is driving, I'm fine. If it's my friend Wendy, I'm bailing at the next stop sign. Do I know the area, or did I just breeze into town? How's the weather ... rain, ice, snow? Mid-afternoon, or closing time?
150 questions like this! It really is a miracle I ever got married
If you were forced into it it would be, but yeah I catch your drift
there you are.
- brain of c
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.36
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Hehe....I'd probably do the same thing.
-2.31
~Ron Burgundy
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.82
I defy categorization!
I'm still an individual and I still have my name. (My name is longer, but I dont care to post it here.
And abook, wow!
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.46
I can't be that dead-center! This test is fucked up.
"What makes a good man go neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"
Captain Zapp Brannigan
naděje umírá poslední
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.46
There was questions that i would have been in between on but as they had only agree or disagree it was kinda impossible to remain on the fence - so to say.
Anyhow i don't think i really belong down the scale near ghandi - i'm not really into the non violence thing as he was nor am i a racist as he is said to have been ..................
touche
I agree.
naděje umírá poslední
You're a pro-violence anti-racist
naděje umírá poslední
The socialism store just called ... Its running out of ... Socialism.
Yeah and the jerk store is running out of you...j/k....classic episode....
Could happen ... He's not a pacifist, but he's says he not racist either. That's how I would describe myself, actually.
"Not pacifist" doesn't mean warmonger, by the way. It means that you aren't opposed to the use of military force in some cases.