Hillary Clinton Is Evil.

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  • evenkatevenkat Posts: 380
    the ulitimate opportunist...the anti-feminist...living in the nineties w/bill and madeline albright by her side (and looking quite old i may add)...rode her husbands coattails for 30 years despite being humilated in front of the entire world....deserted her home state in favor of new york for maximum exposure for her own political gain so she could ultimately run for president...100% poll driven, she is being completely exposed as the fraud she is and i am loving every nano second of it.

    god bless america.

    Just about everyone in politics is an opportunist.

    Anti-feminist? Why because she didn't leave Bill? Does that mean she is weak? No it means she is a strong person willing to forgive a person she loves. How many people cheat on their spouse both men and women, get caught and then they work it out? She is trying to become the first female President I think most feminist will be supporting her.

    She road her husbands coattails? She stood by Bill and for many many years she campaigned her ass off for him to first become Governor of Arkansas and then President. She did more as First Lady than any other First Lady before her.

    Every politician has to start without any political experience but she has paved her own political path now.

    She was elected a US Senator in November of 2000 almost 8 years ago. She serves on the Senate Armed Services Committee; the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee; the Environment and Public Works Committee; and the Special Committee on Aging. She was asked by the Department of Defense to serve as the only Senate member of the Transformation Advisory Group to the Joint Forces Command. She has sponsored or co-sponsored over 2000 bills in the Senate.

    She may or may not win the Democratic nomination but your excuses why you hate her are old news. In fact you brought up the same issues that were raised about her when she first ran for Senate in 2000. Get out of the past and get over it. She has come a long way from 2000.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    My question would be of her... Why New York? Why not Arkansas since you "care so much about the people of America?" You at least had a history in Arkansas.

    Bullshit, she just has ambitions of becoming the first female president... she dosen't care about the country or the people she cares about history and her place in it.

    Why New York?

    Because of the electoral votes and the closeness to the national media that's why.

    I don't like her because she's full of shit. (like the rest of them really)

    I think as a person she's probably a lot nicer than she's given credit for, she's really smart and probably very interesting to talk to. The way that she's treated with softballs on one side of the media is cheezy as hell and worthless and then the otherside is just rude and distasteful.

    I'm just opposed to most of her viewpoints on how the country should be run and I am put off by her (and anyone else who follows that political paths) quest for power.

    It's supposed to be a public service not a profession. I don't care what they say publically if they really cared about serving the public and not their own ambitions for power and history they would live thier lives differently.

    Every move is calculated......designed to get what she wants.....I don't want that in a president...The canidate with the best marketing wins.... and that's sad.
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  • evenkatevenkat Posts: 380
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    My question would be of her... Why New York? Why not Arkansas since you "care so much about the people of America?" You at least had a history in Arkansas.

    Bullshit, she just has ambitions of becoming the first female president... she dosen't care about the country or the people she cares about history and her place in it.

    Why New York?

    Because of the electoral votes and the closeness to the national media that's why.

    I don't like her because she's full of shit. (like the rest of them really)

    I think as a person she's probably a lot nicer than she's given credit for, she's really smart and probably very interesting to talk to. The way that she's treated with softballs on one side of the media is cheezy as hell and worthless and then the otherside is just rude and distasteful.

    I'm just opposed to most of her viewpoints on how the country should be run and I am put off by her (and anyone else who follows that political paths) quest for power.

    It's supposed to be a public service not a profession. I don't care what they say publically if they really cared about serving the public and not their own ambitions for power and history they would live thier lives differently.

    Every move is calculated......designed to get what she wants.....I don't want that in a president...The canidate with the best marketing wins.... and that's sad.

    So if she ran for Senate in Arkansas you would love her then? Yeah right lol. Why not New York? It's not like she lived in Arkansas all of her life. She was born and lived in Chicago for many years. She also lived in Connecticut when she went to Yale and of course she lived in Washington DC for 8 years. Moving around is not something new to her. She is also not the first person who has moved to another state and then ran for public office. How many politicians are representing the state where they were born? I'm a New Yorker and I think she has represented New York well in the Senate.

    I understand if you disagree with her political views but come on what has she done for you to really hate her? So what if she moved to New York to run for the Senate. Big deal!

    Now if public office was her profession wouldn't she want to stay in the Senate where she could stay in politics for much longer where there are no term limits? Maybe when her husband was President she was inspired to become President herself.

    And of course she wants to be President she is running for President. Shit I think I want to be President lol. Nah maybe not I wouldn't want everything to be my fault lol.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    evenkat wrote:
    So if she ran for Senate in Arkansas you would love her then? Yeah right lol. Why not New York? It's not like she lived in Arkansas all of her life. She was born and lived in Chicago for many years. She also lived in Connecticut when she went to Yale and of course she lived in Washington DC for 8 years. Moving around is not something new to her. She is also not the first person who has moved to another state and then ran for public office. How many politicians are representing the state where they were born? I'm a New Yorker and I think she has represented New York well in the Senate.

    I understand if you disagree with her political views but come on what has she done for you to really hate her? So what if she moved to New York to run for the Senate. Big deal!

    Now if public office was her profession wouldn't she want to stay in the Senate where she could stay in politics for much longer where there are no term limits? Maybe when her husband was President she was inspired to become President herself.

    And of course she wants to be President she is running for President. Shit I think I want to be President lol. Nah maybe not I wouldn't want everything to be my fault lol.

    I don't hate her. I just disagree with her politically and I have a general distaste for the bullshit and fakeness of the election process.
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  • Carlos DCarlos D Posts: 638
    I'm always defending America when people badmouth it(which they do a lot unfortunately) but I can't see that being the case if Hillary's ever in charge.I don't understand how people can't see the qualities in her that they accuse George Bush of having.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,325
    she is in NY because its traditionally one of the more liberal states
    pretty good place to get support for your liberal policies

    Oh and NY has a little bit more cash available than Ark.


    I hope she wins. I want Bill back in the white house even if its just to chase the interns!

    ;)
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,257
    Get_Right wrote:
    she is in NY because its traditionally one of the more liberal states
    pretty good place to get support for your liberal policies

    Oh and NY has a little bit more cash available than Ark.


    I hope she wins. I want Bill back in the white house even if its just to chase the interns!

    ;)

    if you think hillary is liberal, i have some swamp land in florida to sell you
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,257
    she only stayed with her husband for her own political gain. come on---2000 or 2008, it is the same old story with her. my excuses for hating her are valid. i hope obama destroys her on super tuesday and finally ends the clinton stranglehold on the democratic party.
    evenkat wrote:
    Just about everyone in politics is an opportunist.

    Anti-feminist? Why because she didn't leave Bill? Does that mean she is weak? No it means she is a strong person willing to forgive a person she loves. How many people cheat on their spouse both men and women, get caught and then they work it out? She is trying to become the first female President I think most feminist will be supporting her.

    She road her husbands coattails? She stood by Bill and for many many years she campaigned her ass off for him to first become Governor of Arkansas and then President. She did more as First Lady than any other First Lady before her.

    Every politician has to start without any political experience but she has paved her own political path now.

    She was elected a US Senator in November of 2000 almost 8 years ago. She serves on the Senate Armed Services Committee; the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee; the Environment and Public Works Committee; and the Special Committee on Aging. She was asked by the Department of Defense to serve as the only Senate member of the Transformation Advisory Group to the Joint Forces Command. She has sponsored or co-sponsored over 2000 bills in the Senate.

    She may or may not win the Democratic nomination but your excuses why you hate her are old news. In fact you brought up the same issues that were raised about her when she first ran for Senate in 2000. Get out of the past and get over it. She has come a long way from 2000.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,325
    if you think hillary is liberal, i have some swamp land in florida to sell you

    she has some liberal policies-no question, like that health care plan whe was trying to sell at the time she moved here.
    Much of her social reforms tilt towards the left.

    Anyway, hows the fishing in that swamp land? I might be interested.
  • jeddethjeddeth Posts: 93
    Things change. They wont change unless you make them. The best way to change something you don't like, is to change yourself. So if you feel like you have a piece of duct tape on your mouth and you can't escape, take it off, speak up, speak your mind, shout it out, let 'em hear ya! -EV
  • evenkatevenkat Posts: 380
    she only stayed with her husband for her own political gain. come on---2000 or 2008, it is the same old story with her. my excuses for hating her are valid. i hope obama destroys her on super tuesday and finally ends the clinton stranglehold on the democratic party.

    I like how you think you know why she stayed with her husband lol.

    If she loses the nomination it will not be the end of her political career. She still will be a respected US Senator from NY. Her approval rating is high in NY. And she could always run for President again.

    I like the both of them. I've no problem if Obama wins! I agree with many of Obama’s positions as I do with Hillary. Obama is very inspiring, getting young people to vote and getting many independent voters to vote democrat, which is a good thing especially when it comes to the general election.

    I’m not into bashing the candidates in my party. I’ll leave that up to the Republicans. If Hillary wins I’ll support her, if Obama wins I’ll support him and if John Edwards pulls a miracle I’ll even support him. Besides I'm sure Obama will want both Hillary's and Bill's support if he does win the nomination and vice versa. I want the best candidate to win that will beat the Republican nomination. Bush has really wrecked things and a change in power is needed but it will not be easy for both Obama and Hillary.

    I am happy that we have 2 exciting Presidential candidates in the Democratic party this time. Remember the last one, John Kerry? He was boring as can be lol.
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  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Hilary and Bill are just as shady as the bunch we have in there now... there is no way in hell I will vote for her.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Hilary and Bill are just as shady as the bunch we have in there now... there is no way in hell I will vote for her.

    I'd hate to have to choose between those two cause America or at least parts of America knows the current admin is corrupt. Hillary is on her way to never being trusted, Bill I liked.

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  • yahamitayahamita Posts: 1,514
    Did you see her fake crying? Evil woman indeed!
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  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    yahamita wrote:
    Did you see her fake crying? Evil woman indeed!

    Seemed like she really was emotional and stressed out, she timed it well, but then in the same breath to attack another canidate seems to go against what she was saying about it being so "hard" to run... sob sob...
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,257
    yahamita wrote:
    Did you see her fake crying? Evil woman indeed!


    no it was real...she was crying because she thought she was going to lose!....funny thing the woman who asked her the question that brought her to tears ended up voting for obama
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,257
    Hilary and Bill are just as shady as the bunch we have in there now... there is no way in hell I will vote for her.

    exactly. just as shady.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,257
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/01/10/hillary/?source=whitelist
    Hillary without tears
    Why it's time to close the book on the Clintons -- and herald the Obamas! Plus: Iran war hawks, Russian drag queens and the genius of Zeppelin.
    By Camille Paglia

    Jan. 10, 2008 | Subject: Hillary and sado-masochism

    As her husband has dragged his numerous female play objects before her and has humiliated her on the public stage year after year, she still stays within the marriage.

    Hillary seems to take every beating, and yet she appears to "keep on ticking." Does she thrive on this?

    How would this affect one's (female) psyche? Judgment as President? General perspective?

    Robert Philips
    Corrales, New Mexico

    A swarm of biographers in miners' gear has tried to plumb the inky depths of Hillary Rodham Clinton's warren-riddled psyche. My metaphor is drawn (as Oscar Wilde's prim Miss Prism would say) from the Scranton coalfields, to which came the Welsh family that produced Hillary's harsh, domineering father.

    Hillary's feckless, loutish brothers (who are kept at arm's length by her operation) took the brunt of Hugh Rodham's abuse in their genteel but claustrophobic home. Hillary is the barracuda who fought for dominance at their expense. Flashes of that ruthless old family drama have come out repeatedly in this campaign, as when Hillary could barely conceal her sneers at her fellow debaters onstage -- the wimpy, cringing brothers at the dinner table.

    Hillary's willingness to tolerate Bill's compulsive philandering is a function of her general contempt for men. She distrusts them and feels morally superior to them. Following the pattern of her long-suffering mother, she thinks it is her mission to endure every insult and personal degradation for a higher cause -- which, unlike her self-sacrificing mother, she identifies with her near-messianic personal ambition.

    It's no coincidence that Hillary's staff has always consisted mostly of adoring women, with nerdy or geeky guys forming an adjunct brain trust. Hillary's rumored hostility to uniformed military men and some Secret Service agents early in the first Clinton presidency probably belongs to this pattern. And let's not forget Hillary, the governor's wife, pulling out a book and rudely reading in the bleachers during University of Arkansas football games back in Little Rock.

    Hillary's disdain for masculinity fits right into the classic feminazi package, which is why Hillary acts on Gloria Steinem like catnip. Steinem's fawning, gaseous New York Times op-ed about her pal Hillary this week speaks volumes about the snobby clubbiness and reactionary sentimentality of the fossilized feminist establishment, which has blessedly fallen off the cultural map in the 21st century. History will judge Steinem and company very severely for their ethically obtuse indifference to the stream of working-class women and female subordinates whom Bill Clinton sexually harassed and abused, enabled by look-the-other-way and trash-the-victims Hillary.

    How does all this affect the prospect of a Hillary presidency? With her eyes on the White House, Hillary as senator has made concerted and generally successful efforts to improve her knowledge of and relationship to the military -- crucial for any commander-in-chief but especially for the first female one. However, I remain concerned about her future conduct of high-level diplomacy. Contemptuous condescension seems to be Hillary's default mode with any male who criticizes her or stands in her way. It's a Nixonian reflex steeped in toxic gender bias. How will that play in the Muslim world?

    The Clintons live to campaign. It's what holds them together and gives them a glowing sense of meaning and value. Their actual political accomplishments are fairly slight. The obsessive need to keep campaigning may mean a president Hillary would go right on spewing the bitterly partisan rhetoric that has already paralyzed Washington. Even if Hillary could be elected (which I'm skeptical about), how in tarnation could she ever govern?

    The current wave of support for Barack Obama from Democrats, independents, and even some Republicans is partly based on his vision of a new political discourse that breaks with the petty, destructive polarization of the past 20 years. Whether Obama can build up his foreign policy credentials sufficiently to reassure an anxious general electorate remains to be seen.

    But Hillary herself, with her thin, spotty record, tangled psychological baggage, and maundering blowhard of a husband, is also a mighty big roll of the dice. She is a brittle, relentless manipulator with few stable core values who shuffles through useful personalities like a card shark ("Cue the tears!"). Forget all her little gold crosses: Hillary's real god is political expediency. Do Americans truly want this hard-bitten Machiavellian back in the White House? Day one will just be more of the same.

    I will vote for Hillary if she is the nominee of my party, because I want Democrats appointed to the Cabinet and the Supreme Court. But I plan to vote for Barack Obama in the Pennsylvania primary because he is a rational, centered personality who speaks the language of idealism and national unity. Obama has served longer as an elected official than Hillary. He has had experience as a grass-roots activist, and he is also a highly educated lawyer who will be a quick learner in office. His international parentage and childhood, as well as his knowledge of both Christianity and Islam, would make him the right leader at the right time. And his wife Michelle is a powerhouse.

    The Obamas represent the future, not the past.
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