Hezbollah used UN post as human shields

Rue D'Awakening

'Hizbullah using UN post as a shield'
By JPOST.COM STAFF AND AP


Maj. Paeta Hess-von Kruedener, a Canadian UNTSO peacekeeper killed in Lebanon overnight Tuesday by an IAF missile strike on his post, wrote in an email to his former commander in the Canadian army six days before he was killed that Hizbullah was using the UN post as a human shield.

Kruedener added in the email that IAF strikes near the UN post prior to his death were "necessary" and that the IDF fire was not intentionally targeting the post.

Maj.-Gen. Louis Mackenzie, Kruedener's ex-commander, told a Canadian radio station about the email letter in an interview.

Kruedener's wife demanded Thursday to know why IAF missiles struck the UN site where her husband was stationed, despite repeated pleas by observers there to halt the firing.

Cynthia Hess-von Kruedener told reporters in Kingston, Ontario, that she believes the attack, which involved precision guided missiles, was intentional.

Hess-von Kruedener said her husband told her that the UN site had been fired upon for weeks, despite the fact that their vehicles and buildings were clearly marked.

shiraz

Rue D'Awakening wrote:

'Hizbullah using UN post as a shield'
By JPOST.COM STAFF AND AP


Maj. Paeta Hess-von Kruedener, a Canadian UNTSO peacekeeper killed in Lebanon overnight Tuesday by an IAF missile strike on his post, wrote in an email to his former commander in the Canadian army six days before he was killed that Hizbullah was using the UN post as a human shield.

Kruedener added in the email that IAF strikes near the UN post prior to his death were "necessary" and that the IDF fire was not intentionally targeting the post.

Maj.-Gen. Louis Mackenzie, Kruedener's ex-commander, told a Canadian radio station about the email letter in an interview.

Kruedener's wife demanded Thursday to know why IAF missiles struck the UN site where her husband was stationed, despite repeated pleas by observers there to halt the firing.

Cynthia Hess-von Kruedener told reporters in Kingston, Ontario, that she believes the attack, which involved precision guided missiles, was intentional.

Hess-von Kruedener said her husband told her that the UN site had been fired upon for weeks, despite the fact that their vehicles and buildings were clearly marked.

I heared it as well on some European TV station (I can't remember which one right now).

rightondude

"That's the way..uh-huh...uh-huh...they do it...uh-huh..uh-huh..."

Ask yourself, what the hell "uh-huh..uh-huh" are you going to do about it...ba-dah..ba-dah?

Don't break this out into some crazy James Brown, kama-kazi preacher style, posessed ninja, revival scene here

lawdie...gawd..

Rue D'Awakening

ok.

shiraz

here's a link with the details:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060718/mideast_lebanon_UN_060716/20060718/

Amazing to actually know what's going on within the battle field.

Puck78

rightondude wrote:

"That's the way..uh-huh...uh-huh...they do it...uh-huh..uh-huh..."

Ask yourself, what the hell "uh-huh..uh-huh" are you going to do about it...ba-dah..ba-dah?

Don't break this out into some crazy James Brown, kama-kazi preacher style, posessed ninja, revival scene here

lawdie...gawd..

...is he ok?

rightondude

Rue D'Awakening wrote:

ok.

See how one could use a crazy but metaphorical language to defuse a potentially hostile situation?

Or am I just blowing sweet Israeli mustard gas mint treat surprise in your bedroom balcony window for you to writhe and moan in agony for hours on?

Whoa, whos right...neither at the moment. Who's wrong? both at the moment as well.
I's a bit like groundhog day, but you get an assorted variation of 5 - 7 days jumbled around together. Weather patterns are totally independent but always similar. Funny how people and places can still remain hauntingly familiar.

blackredyellow

Once again proves that both sides are in the wrong... If a kidnapper holds a hostage at gunpoint, and a cop shoots the hostage trying to get the kidnapper, then the cop was in the wrong too.

Both sides are in the wrong in this conflict, and both sides should get the blame.

Rue D'Awakening

rightondude wrote:

See how one could use a crazy but metaphorical language to defuse a potentially hostile situation?

Or am I just blowing sweet Israeli mustard gas mint treat surprise in your bedroom balcony window for you to writhe and moan in agony for hours on?

Whoa, whos right...neither at the moment. Who's wrong? both at the moment as well.
I's a bit like groundhog day, but you get an assorted variation of 5 - 7 days jumbled around together. Weather patterns are totally independent but always similar. Funny how people and places can still remain hauntingly familiar.

or maybe your only recourse in a situation like this is to post pretentious nothings rather than swallow an unequivocal exoneration of israel of yet another conspiracy theory.

rightondude

gee when will those hezzie guys ever learn of the true meaning of Israel?

shucks...I can see your mind, and what needs to happen inside it.

polaris

and how does it justify a guided missle hitting that outpost killing absolutely zero hezbollah fighters? ... and if you are going to send a guided missle - why not have the decency to warn innocent people?

Rue D'Awakening

rightondude wrote:

gee when will those hezzie guys ever learn of the true meaning of Israel?

shucks...I can see your mind, and what needs to happen inside it.

i rest my case.

Rue D'Awakening

polaris wrote:

and how does it justify a guided missle hitting that outpost killing absolutely zero hezbollah fighters? ... and if you are going to send a guided missle - why not have the decency to warn innocent people?

this story doesn't "justify" the accidental bombing of the outpost.
it is in response to all the conspiracy theorists on these boards, and kofi annan, who accused israel of intentionally targeting the UN post.

and israel does have the decency to warn innocent people. that's why they've been dropping tens of thousands of leaflets over towns and cities warning people to leave and keep their distance from hezbollah members and buildings.

Eliot Rosewater

I've read that elsewhere too and it is a dirty, dirty trick and shitty thing for Hezbollah to do. That, however, doesn't make it okay for Israel to keep striking that area when the U.N. post had contacted them at least 10 times during the day and each time Israel said they'd stop firing in that area.

I'm beginning to wonder if Israel does in fact have grounds for some kind of action here, but war should never be an option and especially how Israel is going about this....they're killing civilians...kids...it's heatbreaking.

Rue D'Awakening

don't gimme no wrote:

war should never be an option and especially how Israel is going about this....they're killing civilians...kids...it's heatbreaking.

war should never be an option.
well thank god then that you live in utah and you can afford to have that outlook. but shame on israel for not waging the first war in history in which no civilians or kids are hurt. shame.

ask yourself something- if hezbollah is such a great benefactor for the lebanese people, with its schools and its rebuilding of damaged buildings, and since hezbollah has built hundreds of bunkers and tunnels throughout s. lebanon in the past 6 years, why didn't they also build bomb shelters for the people they are claiming to protect?

polaris

Rue D'Awakening wrote:

this story doesn't "justify" the accidental bombing of the outpost.
it is in response to all the conspiracy theorists on these boards, and kofi annan, who accused israel of intentionally targeting the UN post.

and israel does have the decency to warn innocent people. that's why they've been dropping tens of thousands of leaflets over towns and cities warning people to leave and keep their distance from hezbollah members and buildings.

ok ... so, these precision guided missles that they've been touting the past 2 weeks aren't so accurate??

so, the wife and UN secretary general are all conspiracy theorists? ...

i guess all those calls to tell them to stop weren't enuf to prevent this ... the fact hezbollah were around or using the area as a shield has absolutely no bearing on why a missle was sent into that outpost ...

Eliot Rosewater

Rue D'Awakening wrote:

and israel does have the decency to warn innocent people. that's why they've been dropping tens of thousands of leaflets over towns and cities warning people to leave and keep their distance from hezbollah members and buildings.

couple of things....first of all, Khofi Annan is an asshole. He personally benefited by gaining millions of dollars from the oil for food programs. He's as corrupt of an individual as any so I have a hard time believing one goddamn thing that comes out of his mouth. Don't get me wrong, I believe the U.N. is (or at least can be) a great thing and we need to be an active part of that.

Secondly....sure, Israel is giving warning. They're telling people to leave but they're bombing the runways and the main roads out. It's awfully disturbing....the rhetoric they're using. Israel need to back the fuck off and use diplomacy. Bombing and killing makes everyone a loser in this. Even I fucking know that and I'm no expert on foreign policy, ffs.

Rue D'Awakening

polaris wrote:

ok ... so, these precision guided missles that they've been touting the past 2 weeks aren't so accurate??

so, the wife and UN secretary general are all conspiracy theorists? ...

i guess all those calls to tell them to stop weren't enuf to prevent this ... the fact hezbollah were around or using the area as a shield has absolutely no bearing on why a missle was sent into that outpost ...

no, the UN secretary general is just a useless hypocrite wanker with the blood of millions of africans on his hands. his very existence is the world's misfortune.
if you can accuse israel of not warning people to get away from the fighting, that means you were completely unaware of the much reported-on fact of israel dropping thousands of leaflets on lebanese towns and cities. if you're that clueless, maybe you might not know all the facts behind an IAF operation, either.

Rue D'Awakening

don't gimme no wrote:

couple of things....first of all, Khofi Annan is an asshole. He personally benefited by gaining millions of dollars from the oil for food programs. He's as corrupt of an individual as any so I have a hard time believing one goddamn thing that comes out of his mouth. Don't get me wrong, I believe the U.N. is (or at least can be) a great thing and we need to be an active part of that.

Secondly....sure, Israel is giving warning. They're telling people to leave but they're bombing the runways and the main roads out. It's awfully disturbing....the rhetoric they're using. Israel need to back the fuck off and use diplomacy. Bombing and killing makes everyone a loser in this. Even I fucking know that and I'm no expert on foreign policy, ffs.

for 6 years israel tried to use diplomacy, tried to get lebanon and the UN to enforce resolution 1559. nobody cared or did anything while hezbollah not only refused to comply, but doubled its arsenal of rockets and missiles and dug in along the border. the most recent kidnapping of 2 israeli soldiers is not the first incident of its kind since then, either. in the fall of 2000 hezbollah kidnapped and murdered 3 other soldiers. hezbollah has proven that it was never just created to expel the israelis from southern lebanon. its ideology is textbook khomeinism. enough is enough.

Eliot Rosewater

Rue D'Awakening wrote:

no, the UN secretary general is just a useless hypocrite wanker with the blood of millions of africans on his hands. his very existence is the world's misfortune.
if you can accuse israel of not warning people to get away from the fighting, that means you were completely unaware of the much reported-on fact of israel dropping thousands of leaflets on lebanese towns and cities. if you're that clueless, maybe you might not know all the facts behind an IAF operation, either.

What say you about the fact that the U.N. contacted Israel at least 10 times that day and each time Israel said they would stop firing in that area, only to hit the post in question directly with "precision guided missiles?"

polaris

Rue D'Awakening wrote:

no, the UN secretary general is just a useless hypocrite wanker with the blood of millions of africans on his hands. his very existence is the world's misfortune.
if you can accuse israel of not warning people to get away from the fighting, that means you were completely unaware of the much reported-on fact of israel dropping thousands of leaflets on lebanese towns and cities. if you're that clueless, maybe you might not know all the facts behind an IAF operation, either.

everyone knows of the leaflets - can you explain how they are relevant in this scenario?? ...

you can channel your hate for kofi annan but it still doesn't change what happened ... there is still absolutely no justification for the bombing ... when you come up with one - then share it ... until then - feel free to continue to call me whatever you want - it matters not to me ...