U.S. lawmakers denounce Iraq amnesty plan
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Hey Cons -- your dumbass leader cannot even get his puppets over in Iraq to do what he wants. perhaps you should investigate the candidates Hannity and Rush tell you to vote for. You sheep are ruining the country.
U.S. lawmakers denounce Iraq amnesty plan
By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
Sun Jun 25, 7:45 PM ET
Members of Congress on Sunday denounced any Iraqi plan that would grant amnesty to insurgents responsible for the deaths of U.S. troops.
As part of a plan to mend sectarian strife, Iraq's prime minister has proposed extending amnesty to insurgents and opposition figures who have not been involved in terrorist activities.
Lawmakers are still trying to ascertain the details of the reconciliation plan that Nouri al-Maliki released on Sunday. It came out after a week of intense debate in Washington over the deployment of U.S. forces and political posturing on the war months before November's elections.
Michigan Sen. Carl Levin (news, bio, voting record), the top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said extending amnesty to anyone responsible for killing U.S. troops was "unconscionable."
"For heaven's sake, we liberated that country," Levin said on "Fox News Sunday." "We got rid of a horrific dictator. We've paid a tremendous price. More than 2,500 Americans have given up their lives. The idea that they should even consider talking about amnesty for people who have killed people who liberated their country is unconscionable."
Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting record), R-Va., chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said that while he opposes amnesty, the United States must respect Iraq's sovereign right to decide its own future.
He said the U.S. government will not dictate, but will consult with Iraqi officials on all aspects of the plan.
"I want the Iraqi people to take this decision unto themselves and make it correctly," Warner said. "And I hope it comes out ... no amnesty for anyone who committed an act of violence, of war crimes."
In presenting the plan to the Iraqi parliament, al-Maliki said Sunday that insurgent killers would not escape justice regardless of whether their victims were Iraqis or U.S.-led coalition forces.
"The launch of this national reconciliation initiative should not be read as a reward for the killers and criminals or acceptance of their actions," he said.
The White House welcomed the initiative, yet did not comment specifically on Iraqi plans to embrace certain insurgents, saying the plan was still being developed.
"Reconciliation must be an Iraqi process, led by Iraqis," White House spokesman Ken Lisaius said. "We, of course, stand by, ready to assist in this effort — if the Iraqis request our help. But it's important to note that this is the first step, and it's a process that will take time to fully develop."
Sen. Mitch McConnell (news, bio, voting record), R-Ky., said on ABC's "This Week" said he does not believe the Iraqi government intends to grant amnesty to people who killed Americans.
Sen. Richard Lugar (news, bio, voting record), R-Ind., said if there is to be peace in Iraq, al-Maliki must find a formula for moving forward that is acceptable to all. "I'm hopeful that one of elements of the formula that he presents to the Sunnis is not amnesty because that is going to run into solid opposition, obviously, in the United States," Lugar, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told CBS' "Face the Nation."
Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y., urged President Bush to get a commitment from al-Maliki that there will be no amnesty for anyone who has killed U.S. troops.
U.S. lawmakers denounce Iraq amnesty plan
By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
Sun Jun 25, 7:45 PM ET
Members of Congress on Sunday denounced any Iraqi plan that would grant amnesty to insurgents responsible for the deaths of U.S. troops.
As part of a plan to mend sectarian strife, Iraq's prime minister has proposed extending amnesty to insurgents and opposition figures who have not been involved in terrorist activities.
Lawmakers are still trying to ascertain the details of the reconciliation plan that Nouri al-Maliki released on Sunday. It came out after a week of intense debate in Washington over the deployment of U.S. forces and political posturing on the war months before November's elections.
Michigan Sen. Carl Levin (news, bio, voting record), the top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said extending amnesty to anyone responsible for killing U.S. troops was "unconscionable."
"For heaven's sake, we liberated that country," Levin said on "Fox News Sunday." "We got rid of a horrific dictator. We've paid a tremendous price. More than 2,500 Americans have given up their lives. The idea that they should even consider talking about amnesty for people who have killed people who liberated their country is unconscionable."
Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting record), R-Va., chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said that while he opposes amnesty, the United States must respect Iraq's sovereign right to decide its own future.
He said the U.S. government will not dictate, but will consult with Iraqi officials on all aspects of the plan.
"I want the Iraqi people to take this decision unto themselves and make it correctly," Warner said. "And I hope it comes out ... no amnesty for anyone who committed an act of violence, of war crimes."
In presenting the plan to the Iraqi parliament, al-Maliki said Sunday that insurgent killers would not escape justice regardless of whether their victims were Iraqis or U.S.-led coalition forces.
"The launch of this national reconciliation initiative should not be read as a reward for the killers and criminals or acceptance of their actions," he said.
The White House welcomed the initiative, yet did not comment specifically on Iraqi plans to embrace certain insurgents, saying the plan was still being developed.
"Reconciliation must be an Iraqi process, led by Iraqis," White House spokesman Ken Lisaius said. "We, of course, stand by, ready to assist in this effort — if the Iraqis request our help. But it's important to note that this is the first step, and it's a process that will take time to fully develop."
Sen. Mitch McConnell (news, bio, voting record), R-Ky., said on ABC's "This Week" said he does not believe the Iraqi government intends to grant amnesty to people who killed Americans.
Sen. Richard Lugar (news, bio, voting record), R-Ind., said if there is to be peace in Iraq, al-Maliki must find a formula for moving forward that is acceptable to all. "I'm hopeful that one of elements of the formula that he presents to the Sunnis is not amnesty because that is going to run into solid opposition, obviously, in the United States," Lugar, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told CBS' "Face the Nation."
Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y., urged President Bush to get a commitment from al-Maliki that there will be no amnesty for anyone who has killed U.S. troops.
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Rushlimbo wrote:You sheep are ruining the country.
Whoa, this implies there was ever something worth ruining....I thought we, as a nation with a strong capitalist history, was the epitome of evil. So are you saying that the U.S. had/has some positives????And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
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I see the Iraq leaders differing opinion as further proof that the whole "puppet thing" is, as some of us always knew, nothing but character assasination and conspiracy crap. Puppets dont think for themselves. And oppressors don't allow free thought to get out. Maybe, just maybe, we nor our administration is there to "oppress and occupy". Maybe, just maybe, this is Iraq's first step towards real independence, all assisted by the mighty, evil, empirical US of A. Independent life requires independent thought.Why go home
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Hey BS, I'm still waiting for your link to a source, again maybe even Maliki's own words, that say Iraq wanted the US to stay.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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i am sure he can't find anything. because they did not want us to stay, and they never said that they did.Halifax2TheMax said:Hey BS, I'm still waiting for your link to a source, again maybe even Maliki's own words, that say Iraq wanted the US to stay.
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But he stated that the only country that wanted us to leave was Iran? You mean what he said isn't true? Oh, dear.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Damn,Ya'll knocked the dust off this thread.9 years pick right back up to where it left off.Thats progress in the region for ya.0
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I'm still waiting for BS to provide a source that proves Iraq wanted the US to stay and the only country that wanted the US to leave was Iran. C'mon BS, what are you using, dial up? Or encyclopedias?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Why do you care??? Like a link from some Bull shit Blog media outlet all you guys like to use gives validity to anything….get off your computer and experience life, you ain't solving shit on here.Halifax2TheMax said:I'm still waiting for BS to provide a source that proves Iraq wanted the US to stay and the only country that wanted the US to leave was Iran. C'mon BS, what are you using, dial up? Or encyclopedias?
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Way to add to the discussion. Too busy giving bumpy rides? When's the next riot?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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We would still be living in caves and shitting in the corners of that was the state of mind of humanity. No science, no facts, just "me see tree bend, must be spirit of dead mans"muskydan said:
Why do you care??? Like a link from some Bull shit Blog media outlet all you guys like to use gives validity to anything….get off your computer and experience life, you ain't solving shit on here.Halifax2TheMax said:I'm still waiting for BS to provide a source that proves Iraq wanted the US to stay and the only country that wanted the US to leave was Iran. C'mon BS, what are you using, dial up? Or encyclopedias?
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I am sure there is a AP for that so why don't you tell me while I am golfing or fishing...Halifax2TheMax said:Way to add to the discussion. Too busy giving bumpy rides? When's the next riot?
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Ever been to the Wild Wild Westside of Chicago G??? There is a lot of scientific research to be had…...rgambs said:
We would still be living in caves and shitting in the corners of that was the state of mind of humanity. No science, no facts, just "me see tree bend, must be spirit of dead mans"muskydan said:
Why do you care??? Like a link from some Bull shit Blog media outlet all you guys like to use gives validity to anything….get off your computer and experience life, you ain't solving shit on here.Halifax2TheMax said:I'm still waiting for BS to provide a source that proves Iraq wanted the US to stay and the only country that wanted the US to leave was Iran. C'mon BS, what are you using, dial up? Or encyclopedias?
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Woa, an internet tough guy! What's a matter? Streets too calm?muskydan said:
I am sure there is a AP for that so why don't you tell me while I am golfing or fishing...Halifax2TheMax said:Way to add to the discussion. Too busy giving bumpy rides? When's the next riot?
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Not sure what that means...muskydan said:
Ever been to the Wild Wild Westside of Chicago G??? There is a lot of scientific research to be had…...rgambs said:
We would still be living in caves and shitting in the corners of that was the state of mind of humanity. No science, no facts, just "me see tree bend, must be spirit of dead mans"muskydan said:
Why do you care??? Like a link from some Bull shit Blog media outlet all you guys like to use gives validity to anything….get off your computer and experience life, you ain't solving shit on here.Halifax2TheMax said:I'm still waiting for BS to provide a source that proves Iraq wanted the US to stay and the only country that wanted the US to leave was Iran. C'mon BS, what are you using, dial up? Or encyclopedias?
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it was sarcasm.rgambs said:
Not sure what that means...muskydan said:
Ever been to the Wild Wild Westside of Chicago G??? There is a lot of scientific research to be had…...rgambs said:
We would still be living in caves and shitting in the corners of that was the state of mind of humanity. No science, no facts, just "me see tree bend, must be spirit of dead mans"muskydan said:
Why do you care??? Like a link from some Bull shit Blog media outlet all you guys like to use gives validity to anything….get off your computer and experience life, you ain't solving shit on here.Halifax2TheMax said:I'm still waiting for BS to provide a source that proves Iraq wanted the US to stay and the only country that wanted the US to leave was Iran. C'mon BS, what are you using, dial up? Or encyclopedias?
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Yeah it was, it just didn't make much sense lolgimmesometruth27 said:
it was sarcasm.rgambs said:
Not sure what that means...muskydan said:
Ever been to the Wild Wild Westside of Chicago G??? There is a lot of scientific research to be had…...rgambs said:
We would still be living in caves and shitting in the corners of that was the state of mind of humanity. No science, no facts, just "me see tree bend, must be spirit of dead mans"muskydan said:
Why do you care??? Like a link from some Bull shit Blog media outlet all you guys like to use gives validity to anything….get off your computer and experience life, you ain't solving shit on here.Halifax2TheMax said:I'm still waiting for BS to provide a source that proves Iraq wanted the US to stay and the only country that wanted the US to leave was Iran. C'mon BS, what are you using, dial up? Or encyclopedias?
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