Limbaugh accuses Michael J Fox

Rushlimbo

sponger wrote:

When he sat in front of the senate to discuss his ailment, he said this:



http://psychlops.psy.uconn.edu/eric/class/parkinsons/foxhearing.html

Who knows if the guy purposely took his meds right before the hearing, or if the meds take hours and hours to work. Whatever the case, he was not under the influence of his meds during his speech. coincidence?

Perhaps some days more medication is necessary than other days because symptoms vary day to day? Perhaps he needed to take more to offset this? Perhaps not, that pesky Michael J. is a shifty fella. Always was. Probably part of al qaeda as well.

sponger

Rushlimbo wrote:

Perhaps some days more medication is necessary than other days because symptoms vary day to day? Perhaps he needed to take more to offset this? Perhaps not, that pesky Michael J. is a shifty fella. Always was. Probably part of al qaeda as well.

It's also known that he has admitted to purposely not taking the meds so that the realities of his disease can be brought to public light. I've seen this discussed on tv somewhere, but I forgot where. I can't find any source on that so wutevah. I have better things to do than make stuff up, so you're just going to have to take my word for it.

hippiemom

sponger wrote:

It's also known that he has admitted to purposely not taking the meds so that the realities of his disease can be brought to public light. I've seen this discussed on tv somewhere, but I forgot where. I can't find any source on that so wutevah. I have better things to do than make stuff up, so you're just going to have to take my word for it.

I'm not saying that you're making it up, but without any source, I have to assume that whoever you heard say it on tv probably WAS making it up. It's kind of hard to believe that there wouldn't be one single news blurb on the entire internet if Fox had made such a statement, and I couldn't find anything either. I did find this statement from a doctor:

"The chorea that Michael J Fox has in that ad comes from chronic use of dopamine agonists in the context of Parkinson's. They're movements from the medicine, not the disease itself. Although he might have odd movements OFF of his meds, they wouldn't look like the ones in the ad. They'd look like the Parkinson's-like presentation of Muhammed Ali's Dementia Pugilistica.

Purple Hawk

hippiemom wrote:

Source, please?

his 2002 book (chapter 8)

i feel bad for the guy, the dems are using his disease to "drill for fear" when stem cell research is LEGAL in MO and MD, the two states where this is being aired. The Republican candidates do not have ANY plans to make it illegal. the legislation in question has to do with cloning, and this is a ridiculous distortion. Hopefully the GOP gets their head out of their ass quick and highlight this crap.

Purple Hawk

another opinion..

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YWQ2ZWJhNWY4ZDY3ODBkOGIwNmZiOTVmMDhkNTBjYTM=

ledvedderman

Purple Hawk wrote:

his 2002 book

i feel bad for the guy, the dems are using his disease to "drill for fear" when stem cell research is LEGAL in MO and MD, the two states where this is being aired. The Republican candidates do not have ANY plans to make it illegal. the legislation in question has to do with cloning, and this is a ridiculous distortion. Hopefully the GOP gets their head out of their ass quick and highlight this crap.

The amendment in Missouri has NOTHING to do with cloning. The dems are "drilling for fear"? Are you serious? Have you gone to gop.com and seen their new ad. If that isn't drilling for fear, than what is. You think of all the states across the nation that have state wide referendums on the ballot regarding gay marriage. It is nothing but a glorified opinion poll to get the conservative voters out. They tried in Illinois, but it went down in flames, and gay marriage is illegal here.

Purple Hawk

ledvedderman wrote:

The amendment in Missouri has NOTHING to do with cloning. The dems are "drilling for fear"? Are you serious? Have you gone to gop.com and seen their new ad. If that isn't drilling for fear, than what is. You think of all the states across the nation that have state wide referendums on the ballot regarding gay marriage. It is nothing but a glorified opinion poll to get the conservative voters out. They tried in Illinois, but it went down in flames, and gay marriage is illegal here.

point one:

"When you see Amendment 2 at your polling place, you will be asked to decide whether to "ban human cloning or attempted cloning." Sounds good so far, right? Who's in favor of human cloning anyway?

But the 2,100-word Constitutional Amendment — which you won't see on election day — actually creates legal protection for human cloning. Hard to believe? It's true. Amendment 2 only outlaws reproductive cloning, which no one in Missouri (or anywhere else on earth) is doing.

Meanwhile, it protects anyone who wants to clone human beings for science experiments. Amendment 2 glosses over the issue of lab-created human life with complicated phrases like "Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer." But cloning is cloning, and Amendment 2 would put this ethically questionable practice beyond the reach of state law.

Amendment 2 is "2 tricky." And the human-cloning "bait and switch" is just the beginning. "

point two:
ballot initiatives had NO effect on the turnout in the 2004 election. Turnout in those 11 states was not different from 2000. Also, opinions on gay marriage were not statistically sigifnicant in predicting the vote in those states. In all 50 states, opinions towards gay marriage was dwarfed by other issues (iraq and the economy). In other words, the myth that the media has put forth is a fallacy. See a good study: Hillygus and SHields 2005, or any other scientific analysis of the election.

Same thing goes here, Fox can lie in his add, but we can't criticize his lie b/c he has a disease, we can't criticize sheehan b/c of her trauma, and so forth.

again, it's drilling for fear: you vote Republican, and they will stop parkinsans from being cured. An unbelievable distortion at best, an out and out lie at worst.

ledvedderman

The Stem Cell Initiative will prevent Missouri politicians from banning stem cell research and cures in our state.

It will make it clear in our state constitution that all Missouri citizens have the right to have their diseases and injuries cured with any stem cell treatments that are allowed in our country and available to other Americans.

It ensures that Missouri medical institutions can provide and help find new stem cell cures.

It establishes responsible boundaries and guidelines to ensure that stem cell research is conducted ethically and safely. And, it strictly bans any attempt to clone a human being.

PS- No matter how much I disagree with you on this, your signature is great, and it used to be my sig...

Gunga La Gunga

Purple Hawk

ledvedderman wrote:

The Stem Cell Initiative will prevent Missouri politicians from banning stem cell research and cures in our state.

It will make it clear in our state constitution that all Missouri citizens have the right to have their diseases and injuries cured with any stem cell treatments that are allowed in our country and available to other Americans.

It ensures that Missouri medical institutions can provide and help find new stem cell cures.

It establishes responsible boundaries and guidelines to ensure that stem cell research is conducted ethically and safely. And, it strictly bans any attempt to clone a human being.

PS- No matter how much I disagree with you on this, your signature is great, and it used to be my sig...

Gunga La Gunga

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I don't even disagree with the Democratic candidate's stance on embryonic research, I just think the ad is beyond being a scare tactic with the goal of misleading...not that that's anything new in politics.

enharmonic

All that hillbilly heroin done ate his brains up.