9/11 Panel Suspected Deception By Pentagon
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR2006080101300.html
9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon
Allegations Brought to Inspectors General
By Dan Eggen
The Washington Post
Wednesday 02 August 2006
Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.
Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission, hoping to hide the bungled response to the hijackings, these sources said.
In the end, the panel agreed to a compromise, turning over the allegations to the inspectors general for the Defense and Transportation departments, who can make criminal referrals if they believe they are warranted, officials said.
"We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth.... It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."
Although the commission's landmark report made it clear that the Defense Department's early versions of events on the day of the attacks were inaccurate, the revelation that it considered criminal referrals reveals how skeptically those reports were viewed by the panel and provides a glimpse of the tension between it and the Bush administration.
A Pentagon spokesman said yesterday that the inspector general's office will soon release a report addressing whether testimony delivered to the commission was "knowingly false." A separate report, delivered secretly to Congress in May 2005, blamed inaccuracies in part on problems with the way the Defense Department kept its records, according to a summary released yesterday.
A spokesman for the Transportation Department's inspector general's office said its investigation is complete and that a final report is being drafted. Laura Brown, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, said she could not comment on the inspector general's inquiry.
In an article scheduled to be on newsstands today, Vanity Fair magazine reports aspects of the commission debate - though it does not mention the possible criminal referrals - and publishes lengthy excerpts from military audiotapes recorded on Sept. 11. ABC News aired excerpts last night.
For more than two years after the attacks, officials with NORAD and the FAA provided inaccurate information about the response to the hijackings in testimony and media appearances. Authorities suggested that U.S. air defenses had reacted quickly, that jets had been scrambled in response to the last two hijackings and that fighters were prepared to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93 if it threatened Washington.
In fact, the commission reported a year later, audiotapes from NORAD's Northeast headquarters and other evidence showed clearly that the military never had any of the hijacked airliners in its sights and at one point chased a phantom aircraft - American Airlines Flight 11 - long after it had crashed into the World Trade Center.
Maj. Gen. Larry Arnold and Col. Alan Scott told the commission that NORAD had begun tracking United 93 at 9:16 a.m., but the commission determined that the airliner was not hijacked until 12 minutes later. The military was not aware of the flight until after it had crashed in Pennsylvania.
These and other discrepancies did not become clear until the commission, forced to use subpoenas, obtained audiotapes from the FAA and NORAD, officials said. The agencies' reluctance to release the tapes - along with e-mails, erroneous public statements and other evidence - led some of the panel's staff members and commissioners to believe that authorities sought to mislead the commission and the public about what happened on Sept. 11.
"I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview. "The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years ... This is not spin. This is not true."
Arnold, who could not be reached for comment yesterday, told the commission in 2004 that he did not have all the information unearthed by the panel when he testified earlier. Other military officials also denied any intent to mislead the panel.
John F. Lehman, a Republican commission member and former Navy secretary, said in a recent interview that he believed the panel may have been lied to but that he did not believe the evidence was sufficient to support a criminal referral.
"My view of that was that whether it was willful or just the fog of stupid bureaucracy, I don't know," Lehman said. "But in the order of magnitude of things, going after bureaucrats because they misled the commission didn't seem to make sense to me."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR2006080101300.html
9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon
Allegations Brought to Inspectors General
By Dan Eggen
The Washington Post
Wednesday 02 August 2006
Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.
Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission, hoping to hide the bungled response to the hijackings, these sources said.
In the end, the panel agreed to a compromise, turning over the allegations to the inspectors general for the Defense and Transportation departments, who can make criminal referrals if they believe they are warranted, officials said.
"We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth.... It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."
Although the commission's landmark report made it clear that the Defense Department's early versions of events on the day of the attacks were inaccurate, the revelation that it considered criminal referrals reveals how skeptically those reports were viewed by the panel and provides a glimpse of the tension between it and the Bush administration.
A Pentagon spokesman said yesterday that the inspector general's office will soon release a report addressing whether testimony delivered to the commission was "knowingly false." A separate report, delivered secretly to Congress in May 2005, blamed inaccuracies in part on problems with the way the Defense Department kept its records, according to a summary released yesterday.
A spokesman for the Transportation Department's inspector general's office said its investigation is complete and that a final report is being drafted. Laura Brown, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, said she could not comment on the inspector general's inquiry.
In an article scheduled to be on newsstands today, Vanity Fair magazine reports aspects of the commission debate - though it does not mention the possible criminal referrals - and publishes lengthy excerpts from military audiotapes recorded on Sept. 11. ABC News aired excerpts last night.
For more than two years after the attacks, officials with NORAD and the FAA provided inaccurate information about the response to the hijackings in testimony and media appearances. Authorities suggested that U.S. air defenses had reacted quickly, that jets had been scrambled in response to the last two hijackings and that fighters were prepared to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93 if it threatened Washington.
In fact, the commission reported a year later, audiotapes from NORAD's Northeast headquarters and other evidence showed clearly that the military never had any of the hijacked airliners in its sights and at one point chased a phantom aircraft - American Airlines Flight 11 - long after it had crashed into the World Trade Center.
Maj. Gen. Larry Arnold and Col. Alan Scott told the commission that NORAD had begun tracking United 93 at 9:16 a.m., but the commission determined that the airliner was not hijacked until 12 minutes later. The military was not aware of the flight until after it had crashed in Pennsylvania.
These and other discrepancies did not become clear until the commission, forced to use subpoenas, obtained audiotapes from the FAA and NORAD, officials said. The agencies' reluctance to release the tapes - along with e-mails, erroneous public statements and other evidence - led some of the panel's staff members and commissioners to believe that authorities sought to mislead the commission and the public about what happened on Sept. 11.
"I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview. "The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years ... This is not spin. This is not true."
Arnold, who could not be reached for comment yesterday, told the commission in 2004 that he did not have all the information unearthed by the panel when he testified earlier. Other military officials also denied any intent to mislead the panel.
John F. Lehman, a Republican commission member and former Navy secretary, said in a recent interview that he believed the panel may have been lied to but that he did not believe the evidence was sufficient to support a criminal referral.
"My view of that was that whether it was willful or just the fog of stupid bureaucracy, I don't know," Lehman said. "But in the order of magnitude of things, going after bureaucrats because they misled the commission didn't seem to make sense to me."
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what the fuck is going on?
My opinion....Flight 93 was shot down, goverment cannot tell the people of thier country that they killed thier own people. What choice did they have though?
exactly
Fear.
good question
The mesmerising fog/veils that pull us towards the mass accepted delusions is what stops them. And as Pickr says: fear. It takes concerted long-term effort to escape the veils of illusion. Any journalist with any real clout will also be firmly entrenched in some kind of "establishment" upon which their entire lives are built. In the end, people follow the personal security agenda. Journalists want the big story that will earn them mass adulation and acclaim, not the one that ostracises/shuns them from society.
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Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
That being said, if they lived to show the story of some kind of cover up, with undeniable proof, it could be the biggest story of our time..But who has the balls?
No one in the main stream media, that is for sure. Meanwhile while this story is breaking; CNN.com has on their front page, "Israeli troops carry the coffin of a soldier killed fighting Hezbollah" and "Israel pounded by rockets."
Not to hijack the thread and no, I dont want to talk about Israel. Simply showing how the media "tells us" what we should care about and how to think about a certain topic.
Now the question as to why, protecting your own self-interest as a reporter and as a business.
I hear ya...It is getting no play on CNN, there is a blurb on thier web site, just a couple of paragraphs....I am sure it will get the attention it deserves in time...I hope.
welcome in the wonderful mainstream media world!
Most media outlets like CBS are multinational corportations. Their primary duty is to increase profits to please the shareholders. That includes maintaining their congressional contracts for information. This trumps their constitutional duty.
i guess it's mainly because i just watched the movie recently and it's the washington post. but yeah..
Well it does NOT surprise me that this guy does not mention it....the more I think about this I have come to the conclusion that the "official" story is a complete and utter sham that the majority fell for.....what makes things more difficult in trying to convince those that the "official" story is false is that these people cannot fathom that their intelligence fell for something like that....yes there are some overboard theories...however the "official" story is as much a faux as the conspiracy theories...sickening....I cannot believe more questions have not been asked....question to someone who knows:
How much money was spent investigating Clinton/Monica debacle (and time spent) compared to that investigating 9/11?
Disgusting a nation hi-jacked and mentally raped.....
Are you really surprised....wow ceases to amaze me how some Americans follow so blindly when all the FACTS are presented to them...I guess if things do not appear on People magazine it should have no credability....what we freaking need is some honest media.....
well, at least he recognizes a problem...
That guy is a professional twat.
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Once again a reliable criticism is dismissed by the masses...no wonder some people need to quote alternative media websites because even when the mainstream ones comment on an inconsistency it loses credability...
good point on the alt media... it is where i get most of my info? they seem to be the real media to me...the others (nbc, cnn, etc.) just seem to be there to entertain me, instead of informing me
Its funny when the two match they both discredited....just makes me shake my head....
this story hit press while i was on vacation (with no media access) ...
my mother mentioned she had read something ... took me almost an HOUR to dig this up on the net ... when i found the title i searched it here ... suprise, suprise, it was posted in AMT!
THE TRUTH IS: THE GOVERNMENT IS LYING.
LIAR LIAR, OUR FREEDOMS ON FIRE!
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If I opened it now would you not understand?