The all encompassing ANTI-OBAMA thread

Abookamongstthemany

my2hands wrote:

1. i cannot post on this site anymore without you or your girlfriend jumping my shit. you dont now me, so both of you back the f up of off me. thanks. you 2 follow me around like annoying children bringing up the same tired and lame shit. dont you guys focus on ANYTHING else besides who my2hands is voting for and who is supporting obama? you and your girlfriend do not have a monopoly on the truth oh enlightened ones.

2. voting 3rd party does not make you enlightened. you want to fix the system, then stop following me the f around and do somethign about it in your community. and just a heads up, voting for nader isnt doing a fucking thing about it, dear mr voted for kerry in 2004

3. i have never told you what to do or who to vote for. quite frankly i dont give a f what you do. it wont afftect me or my life at all. just as my suppoprt for obama will not affect yours

4. why are nader supporters so f'ing paranoid? all this "you guys and dont tell me what to do"? who the hell is telling you what to do or vote for? not me, thats for sure. because again, i dont give a shit what you or abook do.

5. the 25 references to me bolded above are just to point out what i have dealt with since you and abook came back and saw *gasp* i was voting for obama... 25 times you referenced me as "you" or "yours" in your post above... obsessive dont ya think. i dont chase you guys around talking down to you, bashing you, degrading you, saying you have compromised your beliefs and that you are a hypocrite (all things YOU have done to me the last 2 months)

6. i do not, and quite frankly at this point, will not, explain my reasoning for anything or support for anyone. i dont owe you. just as you dont owe me anything. this is a message board, i didnt know it was an interview for "enlightment" camp

7. vote for whoever the hell you want, i have never stopped you or ridiculed you for any of your beliefs or support. maybe you should try the same, you guys have come across as know it all condescending assholes since this whole thing stared. and it isnt just me that thinks that either.

8. seriously, you and abook cannot make 1 post without bringing up obama or nader. i mean come on, you're beating a DEAD horse.

9. lighten up, we are all friends here.

Following you around? Ha! Everytime I turn around you and sweetpotato are there making snide remarks and I would not be saying a word about either of you. I can't believe you could post this with a straight face. You are on here posting about the same things just as much as anyone else. You tout Obama's praise here daily. And I have posted about the Israel/Palestinian conflict, torture, dems and war stocks, war funding, youtube etc...

And I am no more condescending than you guys have been so drop the victim
act and start looking at the things you post before you fall off your high horse with this sweet, innocent, self righteous routine you're trying to pull off here.

my2hands

El_Kabong wrote:

however, you repeatedly refuse to voice what beliefs are in line w/ yours. in fact the last time you snapped and said you didn't need to explain yourself to me or anyone...it just seems odd that one can 'support' a candidate but has so much trouble stating why

maybe because *gasp* i dont have to explain anything to you or anyone else... do you see me running aorun dasking you for every detail of why you support nader? no, not even close. maybe you think i owe it to you or this borad for soem reason, but i dont. sorry to upset you :rolleyes:

ya know, like when i broke down obama's health care plan and asked for your thoughts on my breakdown and naders health care plan

i replied to that, and really it is pointless since nader will not be winnign the election. you liek to waste your time, i dont

or the thread i replied to last night....

so i am supposed to follwo you aroud and comment on every post you make? sorry dude, i dont have time for that. or the patience. i know you think you are important and all and that everyone should answer to you and your comments, but i dont.

how many times in the past have you said you needed to do some more research and get back to the reply only to slink away?

so another attack on me... i slink away huh... why do i need to reply to you or abook...nothing willchange your mind and it is a waste of my time. your minds are made up, as is mine. what is there to dscuss?

do we need you and sweetpotato telling ppl how to post? i think not

i am just trying to help out the MT a little... feel free to post as many anti obama gonzalez speeches as you want.

my beliefs, unlike yours and many others, are not schtick.

oh look, another attack on me. how cute. so now my beliefs are a schtick?

it's hilarious how some of you backpeddle from stances you all had a year and more ago!

and yet another attack on me... so now i am backpedaling? nice try. and again, lets niot forget that you dont even fucking know me

bring them fuck home NOW has turned to well, let's keep tens of thousands there while we occupy their land and redeploy the rest to other countries...

there is a right way and a wrong way to do things... whether you and i like it or not

ppl who were anti nuke are suddenly warming up to the idea b/c obama is all for it

i have NEVER said i was anti nuclear power... anti nuclear weapns yes, with a passion... bit have never been anti nuclear energy... see, i told you that you dont know me

....ppl who started threads about how both parties have failed us and need to be replaced has turned to "anyone but {insert current republican candidate}!!!!"

i am no fan of the democrats, i am a fan of obama and a few others... you know, like the democrat tyou and abbok supported for president... the same democrat that openly supported Obama

i've asked before but no one will ever answer:

maybe because they dont owe you

some of you say it is my duty to vote for obama.

i have never saif that, ever

some of you say if i don't vote for obama the republican will win...

i have said this is an important election in a pivotal time... but i am not dumb ebnough to think that hinges on YOUR vote

well, when can i vote for who i want??

last time i checked no one is stopping oyu. the paranoia of nader supporters is downright funny. keep blaming everyone else for his 1% support

b/c in 04 you all said i could vote for who i wanted next time...

didnt you vote for kerry under your own free will? ok then, next

and i have a strange feeling in 2012 i STILL won't be able to vote for who i want according to some of you

see last reply... no one is stopping you from doing anything

the problem w/ the change you all want is you really don't want any change.

hahahaha, is that another attack? so you know what i REALLY want, right kabong :rolleyes:

you want to FOLLOW other ppl.

oh, thats right. like the way you and abook follow me around this website? that kind of follow? i am about as far from a follower as you will ever meet. so feel free to stop assuming, it isnt a good trait

you say there's not enough support...

nader does niot have ebough support for anything, but that shouldnt stop you from voting for him

well, what if everyone who wanted to vote for other options actually did it instead of giving in to the fear of the big bad republicans getting into power?

maybe, just maybe they actually like Obama, and are not sheeple that have been tricked and uped by the establishment. what a novel idea :rolleyes:

how high would the support be then?

the only thing stopping nader, is fucking nader. simple and plain. keep blaming everyone else and the democrats if that is what makes you feel good though :rolleyes:

i'm sorry it upsets you so much that i won't vote for a corporate cock sucker like obama,

doesnt upset me one bit, your friend abook has been the edgy one about this whle issue for the last 8 weeks, and i am not the only 1 to notice. believe me.

or somr I don't take money from lobbyists, and by that i mean i only take a couple hundred thousand from em....mr i won't deal w/ lobbyists, and by that i mean federal lobbyists but i really will anyway.....mr there won't be any lobbyists in my white house, and by that i mean they won't dominate my whitehouse....

it is called fundraising... last i checked, nader has never turned down $1 of contributions regardless of where it came from

it's bullshit, he constantly back peddles and changes his story/line and i've seen maaaaaaaaaany youtube clips of interviews and debates where he is asked a specific question and he doesn't answer it, instead he goes off on something else kinda related but not even addressing the original question asked of him. if you want to get behind that then by all means, enjoy, just stop acting so pissy b/c i don't want to follow along

i am not pissy at all about your nader support, i could care less... i am pissy becasue you 2 will not leave me the fuck alone about it and continue (you especially) to personally attack me and pass judgement on my beliefs ... lets move on and discuss something else, jesus christ!

GauchoB

my2hands wrote:

Please post ALL Anti-Obama information and opinions in this thread.

The MT is flooded with the same people constantly attacking Obama, over and over and over and over and over. Which is fine, but it is really making this place a little repeptitive and tired. Especially thread after thread after thread after thread after thread dedicated to tearing down barack Obama...

So i figured i could help you guys out, and the rest of us MT'ers by providing you an organized platform to espouse your opinions and findings of the Anti-Obama variety.

this is not a joke, this is a real attempt to clean this joint up a little so EVERY single thread doesnt turn into some wierd "Nader vs Obama" mudslinging contest.


Thank You

Im in!

my2hands

and here it goes again, my2hands versus the Ralph Nader tag team combo!!!

GauchoB

my2hands wrote:

1. i cannot post on this site anymore without you or your girlfriend jumping my shit. you dont now me, so both of you back the f up of off me. thanks. you 2 follow me around like annoying children bringing up the same tired and lame shit. dont you guys focus on ANYTHING else besides who my2hands is voting for and who is supporting obama? you and your girlfriend do not have a monopoly on the truth oh enlightened ones.

2. voting 3rd party does not make you enlightened. you want to fix the system, then stop following me the f around and do somethign about it in your community. and just a heads up, voting for nader isnt doing a fucking thing about it, dear mr voted for kerry in 2004

3. i have never told you what to do or who to vote for. quite frankly i dont give a f what you do. it wont afftect me or my life at all. just as my suppoprt for obama will not affect yours

4. why are nader supporters so f'ing paranoid? all this "you guys and dont tell me what to do"? who the hell is telling you what to do or vote for? not me, thats for sure. because again, i dont give a shit what you or abook do.

5. the 25 references to me bolded above are just to point out what i have dealt with since you and abook came back and saw *gasp* i was voting for obama... 25 times you referenced me as "you" or "yours" in your post above... obsessive dont ya think. i dont chase you guys around talking down to you, bashing you, degrading you, saying you have compromised your beliefs and that you are a hypocrite (all things YOU have done to me the last 2 months)

6. i do not, and quite frankly at this point, will not, explain my reasoning for anything or support for anyone. i dont owe you. just as you dont owe me anything. this is a message board, i didnt know it was an interview for "enlightment" camp

7. vote for whoever the hell you want, i have never stopped you or ridiculed you for any of your beliefs or support. maybe you should try the same, you guys have come across as know it all condescending assholes since this whole thing stared. and it isnt just me that thinks that either.

8. seriously, you and abook cannot make 1 post without bringing up obama or nader. i mean come on, you're beating a DEAD horse.

9. lighten up, we are all friends here.

You three need to take this shit outside IMHO.

my2hands

WHAT DON'T YOU 2 UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE FOLLOWING SENTENCE


VOTE FOR WHOEVER YOU WANT, I SUPPORT YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE FOR WHOEVER YOU WISH, INCLUDING RALPH NADER



I HAVE SAID THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER... BUT YOU 2 STILL CONTINUE TO JUMP MY SHIT LIKE I AM HOLDING YOU HOSTAGE AND NOT LETTING YOU VOTE FOR NADER, YOU HAVE PERSONALLY ATTACKED ME, AND HAVE THREATENED ME AND A FRIEND OF MINE, FOR WHAT? I HAVE NEVER ATTACKED YOU, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN NICE, AND HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT EVRY HIGHLY OF YOU. SO WHAY ALL THIS ANGER COMING MY WAY?

DO ME A FAVOR, LEAVE ME ALONE. THANK YOU.

Abookamongstthemany

GauchoB wrote:

You three need to take this shit outside IMHO.

I would rather it be that way, as well. I feel we should discuss the issues not each other.

I don't like this personally insulting stuff. I got jumped all over for posting in the New Rules thread and that's not the only time, either. I don't understand the need to be so antagonizing.

I'd be more than happy to just debate the topics. I know I am guilty of losing my temper here with some and posting in a manner I probably shouldn't have due to the constant pissy ass replies I keep getting. I really wish the discourse stayed on the topic, period. But I will, however, continue to post whatever I see fit as far as info goes.

Abookamongstthemany

my2hands wrote:

WHAT DON'T YOU 2 UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE FOLLOWING SENTENCE


VOTE FOR WHOEVER YOU WANT, I SUPPORT YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE FOR WHOEVER YOU WISH, INCLUDING RALPH NADER



I HAVE SAID THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER... BUT YOU 2 STILL CONTINUE TO JUMP MY SHIT LIKE I AM HOLDING YOU HOSTAGE AND NOT LETTING YOU VOTE FOR NADER, YOU HAVE PERSONALLY ATTACKED ME, AND HAVE THREATENED ME AND A FRIEND OF MINE, FOR WHAT? I HAVE NEVER ATTACKED YOU, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN NICE, AND HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT EVRY HIGHLY OF YOU. SO WHAY ALL THIS ANGER COMING MY WAY?

DO ME A FAVOR, LEAVE ME ALONE. THANK YOU.

You're the one who started this thread with all the complaining about what other people post about. Did you not want us to reply or did you think we wouldn't?

Just starting a thread like this was stirring the shit and you knew it.

cornnifer

my2hands wrote:

Please post ALL Anti-Obama information and opinions in this thread.

The MT is flooded with the same people constantly attacking Obama, over and over and over and over and over. Which is fine, but it is really making this place a little repeptitive and tired. Especially thread after thread after thread after thread after thread dedicated to tearing down barack Obama...

So i figured i could help you guys out, and the rest of us MT'ers by providing you an organized platform to espouse your opinions and findings of the Anti-Obama variety.

this is not a joke, this is a real attempt to clean this joint up a little so EVERY single thread doesnt turn into some wierd "Nader vs Obama" mudslinging contest.


Thank You

Regardless of what some others have said, i think this is a pretty good idea. This way a handful of people have an outlet to conduct a little circle jerk around their latest "findings" from sean hannity, fox news and any other media getting their talking points from one of these sources, and i only have ONE fucking thread to ignore. See, everyone wins.

Abookamongstthemany

cornnifer wrote:

Regardless of what some others have said, i think this is a pretty good idea. This way a handful of people have an outlet to conduct a little circle jerk around their latest "findings" from sean hannity, fox news and any other media getting their talking points from one of these sources, and i only have ONE fucking thread to ignore. See, everyone wins.

Care to do the same with all of the anti Hillary posts?....I counted over 30 threads with only one page.

Also, I have never cited Fox news and any conservative source....I might have once but I can't even remember what it was about. But the overwhelming majority of the things I post come from lefty sources and are certainly not mainstream ones like Fox News.

GauchoB

cornnifer wrote:

Regardless of what some others have said, i think this is a pretty good idea. This way a handful of people have an outlet to conduct a little circle jerk around their latest "findings" from sean hannity, fox news and any other media getting their talking points from one of these sources, and i only have ONE fucking thread to ignore. See, everyone wins.

I dont think you belong on this thread. You need to start your own anti McCain or anti Hillary thread so your views can be kept under control as well. This thread is just for Obama haters. Thank you.

Obama Haters Of America

my2hands

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Also, I have never cited Fox news and any conservative source....I might have once but I can't even remember what it was about. But the overwhelming majority of the things I post come from lefty sources and are certainly not mainstream ones like Fox News.

that, i know for a fact, is true. abook does not EVER cite foxnews or any of those idiots

cornnifer

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Care to do the same with all of the anti Hillary posts?....I counted over 30 threads with only one page.

.

And how many of those threads did i, personally, start? Just askin'.

cornnifer

my2hands wrote:

that, i know for a fact, is true. abook does not EVER cite foxnews or any of those idiots

Didn't say SHE did. You'd have to be pretty naive to think even those "lefty" sources aren't secretly getting most of their Obama smear from right wing sources though.

Abookamongstthemany

cornnifer wrote:

And how many of those threads did i, personally, start? Just askin'.

I don't know I didn't look.

I don't think we need to apply rules and restriction here. I feel that if no one is interested in whatever thread...then it will drop, just as the Hillary ones and some Obama ones did...I'll even let a Nader one sink every now and again. But if people are interested then there will be replies so there's no need to jumble every issue with these candidates into one thread where things would just get buried in all the pages and it would be harder to keep up.

To be fair I have kept a ton of Pro-Nader stuff all in the same thread so as to not clutter up the board.

Abookamongstthemany

cornnifer wrote:

Didn't say SHE did. You'd have to be pretty naive to think even those "lefty" sources aren't secretly getting most of their Obama smear from right wing sources though.

Cornifer, you know this info out there isn't only available to conservatives, doncha?

cornnifer

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Cornifer, you know this info out there isn't only available to conservatives, doncha?

"info"?

Abookamongstthemany

cornnifer wrote:

"info"?

Yes info. Are you claiming the stuff I post is false?

cornnifer

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I don't know I didn't look.

I don't think we need to apply rules and restriction here. I feel that if no one is interested in whatever thread...then it will drop, just as the Hillary ones and some Obama ones did...I'll even let a Nader one sink every now and again. But if people are interested then there will be replies so there's no need to jumble every issue with these candidates into one thread where things would just get buried in all the pages and it would be harder to keep up.

To be fair I have kept a ton of Pro-Nader stuff all in the same thread so as to not clutter up the board.

Oh, i've not accused you of being unair. Personally, i still think the idea proposed in the OP is not a bad one. By all means, abook, you start the thread and every time i feel like spouting off about how much i hate hillary clinton i'll go straight to that one thread to call her an evil beeyotch .
Honestly i havn't been spending much time here as of late, partly because of pesonal time and energy constraints, but also because i've felt a need to take a break to get away from the increasing musty stink of the place. i do that from time to time for short periods. What i wish is that i had Sean's self control and could manage to pop my head out of my hole every once in a great while just long enough to let folks know i'm still around. He's got the right idea i think. i just can't seem to exercise that level of personal restraint.

cornnifer

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Yes info. Are you claiming the stuff I post is false?

With all due and sincere respect, what i'm claiming is that most of it is very spun, greatly exaggerated, grossly embellished and well under the cool shade offered by the large umbrella of human err.