Support the troops, by not giving them a break
my2hands
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i wish i believed in hell so i knew the politicians that sent, and are keeping, our folks over there would burn for eternity. fucking pieces of shit
Troops' 1-month breaks blocked
By Gregg Zoroya, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — U.S. commanders in Iraq are rejecting a recommendation by Army mental health experts that troops receive a one-month break for every three months in a combat zone, despite unprecedented levels of continuous fighting and worsening risks of mental stress.
Instead, commanders are trying to give troops two to three days inside heavily fortified bases after about eight days in the field, said Brig. Gen. Joseph Anderson, chief aide to the ground forces commander in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno.
"We would never get the job done of securing (of Baghdad) if we went out for three months and came back" for one, Anderson said.
U.S. forces in Iraq spend more time in combat without a break than those who fought in Vietnam or World War II, according to Army psychologists who studied troops in Iraq.
U.S. commanders can't match the World War II policy, Odierno said in a news conference late last month.
"Even in World War II and other times … we would pull forces off the line and bring them back on. Here we don't do that," Odierno said. "They (U.S. troops) are out there consistently every single day. So you have to be mentally and physically tough."
President Bush committed 28,000 more troops to Iraq this year as part of an escalation that started in February.
Army psychologists say continual combat may cause more mental health problems. Their research, conducted in Iraq last year, shows that 30% of troops experiencing high levels of combat demonstrate signs of anxiety, depression or acute stress.
Army Col. Carl Castro, a research psychologist who co-wrote the mental health study, said combat "is extremely, extremely stressful." That stress is aggravated, he says, by multiple tours of duty and deployments that have been extended from 12 months to 15.
Castro and Maj. Dennis McGurk, who co-authored the study, recommend U.S. troops by company or battalion be pulled back into fortified areas to rest for one month after every three months of combat, a recovery period similar to that used in World War II.
Castro says U.S. troops have never spent as much time on the front lines without "a significant break" to recover from the demands of war.
More breaks would relieve stress, says Army Spc. Jeremy Osborn, 27, who finished a 14-month stint in Iraq in February.
"The body and mind need to take a break from always being on guard," he said. "Never knowing when we were going to get attacked again was quite stressful."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-06-18-troops-rest_N.htm
Troops' 1-month breaks blocked
By Gregg Zoroya, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — U.S. commanders in Iraq are rejecting a recommendation by Army mental health experts that troops receive a one-month break for every three months in a combat zone, despite unprecedented levels of continuous fighting and worsening risks of mental stress.
Instead, commanders are trying to give troops two to three days inside heavily fortified bases after about eight days in the field, said Brig. Gen. Joseph Anderson, chief aide to the ground forces commander in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno.
"We would never get the job done of securing (of Baghdad) if we went out for three months and came back" for one, Anderson said.
U.S. forces in Iraq spend more time in combat without a break than those who fought in Vietnam or World War II, according to Army psychologists who studied troops in Iraq.
U.S. commanders can't match the World War II policy, Odierno said in a news conference late last month.
"Even in World War II and other times … we would pull forces off the line and bring them back on. Here we don't do that," Odierno said. "They (U.S. troops) are out there consistently every single day. So you have to be mentally and physically tough."
President Bush committed 28,000 more troops to Iraq this year as part of an escalation that started in February.
Army psychologists say continual combat may cause more mental health problems. Their research, conducted in Iraq last year, shows that 30% of troops experiencing high levels of combat demonstrate signs of anxiety, depression or acute stress.
Army Col. Carl Castro, a research psychologist who co-wrote the mental health study, said combat "is extremely, extremely stressful." That stress is aggravated, he says, by multiple tours of duty and deployments that have been extended from 12 months to 15.
Castro and Maj. Dennis McGurk, who co-authored the study, recommend U.S. troops by company or battalion be pulled back into fortified areas to rest for one month after every three months of combat, a recovery period similar to that used in World War II.
Castro says U.S. troops have never spent as much time on the front lines without "a significant break" to recover from the demands of war.
More breaks would relieve stress, says Army Spc. Jeremy Osborn, 27, who finished a 14-month stint in Iraq in February.
"The body and mind need to take a break from always being on guard," he said. "Never knowing when we were going to get attacked again was quite stressful."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-06-18-troops-rest_N.htm
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Thanks for posting this. I completely agree with you. If we can't get the job done (whatever that means) without literally working our guys to death, maybe we should pack it up and bring them home tomorrow.
support the troops, by bringing them home to their families and friends. that is real fucking support.
i dont think there is anything "maybe" about it.
they really do. it is fucking sad.
politicians use our soldiers like toys a rich kid gets on christmas ~~ loose Vonnegut quote~~
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I agree 100%, but that's the reality of it. This is what happens we try to fight a "war on terror" on two or more fronts with an all volunteer force.
By the way I am against a draft, I was just playing devil's advocate. And since the only other solution is to start pulling troops from Iraq, it looks like we found our solution.
i am praying a draft is attempted. the war would end right after thiis country exploded in dissent and protest.
they will continue to bribe (raise incentives), and privatize the military as long as they can...
right on.
but i still support a permanent break, by coming home
I agree. They are also the same people with "Proud to be an American" stickers on their foreign cars.
7-6-2006 Las Vegas. 7-20-2006 Portland. 7-22-2006 Gorge. 9-21-2009 Seattle. 9-22-2009 Seattle. 9-26-2009 Ridgefield. 9-25-2011 Vancouver.
11-29-2013 Portland. 10-16-2014 Detroit. 8-8-2018 Seattle. 8-10-2018 Seattle. 8-13-2018 Missoula. 5-10-2024 Portland. 5-30-2024 Seattle.
shit, i would drive you to canada buddy...
we are generalizing, but your right.
i drive american, by the way.
However, this is ridicilous. The boys (and girls) need to be taken care of.
Make sure you two have your passports. And a better excuse then "I don't want to get killed".
Border Patrol: "Your destination sir?"
My2hands: "We're going to even flow?'s house"
that should work
That works anytime though.
for what, getting strip searched and having my stash confiscated... hehe :cool:
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
What about the 320,000 trainned Iraqi Forces that President Bush and former Defense Secretary bragged about in 2006? Are we being told that a total of 480,000 Armed Security Forces cannot secure that fucking place enough to give our guys a goddamn break?
Hail, Hail!!!
right on
not to mentioj i hate the mets...
just make sure the joint is out before we hit the border :cool: