first; clinton gave saddam biologicals and nuclear capabilities so he did have them. we know because we gave them to him. in fact; after 9/11 extensive testing was done to see if the strain of anthrax being sent through the mail was the strain we gave him.
if you read the treaty; developing nations are exempt. that is why china jumped to sign it. developing nations include india; china; most of south and central america; new zealand; and many more. if this isn't a world effort; it's a waste of time.
didn't reagan give em to em ... either way ... the initial inspectors post gulf war 1 was prepared to give saddam the all clear ... so, he didn't have em then so i don't see how they could have em a few years ago ...
i know that developing nations are exempt ... but the reality is that the USA is still one of the largest emitters per capita - and they aren't doing anything about it ... well, not at the federal level that is ...
Wow, you got me there, i'll have to admit....................I guess I really don't have a clue what I'm talking about.............Maybe I should buy a Hybrid and become Captain Planet.
didn't reagan give em to em ... either way ... the initial inspectors post gulf war 1 was prepared to give saddam the all clear ... so, he didn't have em then so i don't see how they could have em a few years ago ...
i know that developing nations are exempt ... but the reality is that the USA is still one of the largest emitters per capita - and they aren't doing anything about it ... well, not at the federal level that is ...
indias emissions exceed the us and europe combined. someone posted the report here months ago and i don't have the link. maybe someone else does.
i thought bush put him in position towards the end of his term. clinton gave him power with weapons and protection. clinton also protected bin ladin. bin ladin declared war on the us in 1992 or 1993 with the first wtc bombing. throughout the entire clinton administration there were terrorist attacks against the us from plane bombings to casino bombings and clinton never did a thing to try to control the problem. clinton gave saddam the weapons under the ideal that saddam would help keep iran in line.
Wow, you got me there, i'll have to admit....................I guess I really don't have a clue what I'm talking about.............Maybe I should buy a Hybrid and become Captain Planet.
i would say this is the most assinine comment people type on message boards ... i'd rather be called an idiot ...
i'll give u the example i give everyone else who never responds ... what if i put 100 barrels of toxic waste in your bedroom ... will you wait for someone to say you will FOR SURE get cancer before you vacate or is "very likely" good enuf then?
Maybe I'm just not spending enough of my life on message boards then. Sorry, I really hope you know what I meant, my dad used to say that to me all the time.
If you were renting an apartment and your boss told you you were "very likely" to get a promotion and a raise, and you went to the bank to ask for a mortgage to buy a house and on the application it asked your occupation and you put "I'll 'very likely' be a manager soon," what do you think the bank would say?
#==(o )
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
Maybe I'm just not spending enough of my life on message boards then. Sorry, I really hope you know what I meant, my dad used to say that to me all the time.
If you were renting an apartment and your boss told you you were "very likely" to get a promotion and a raise, and you went to the bank to ask for a mortgage to buy a house and on the application it asked your occupation and you put "I'll 'very likely' be a manager soon," what do you think the bank would say?
what bothers me is it's right under peoples noses and they can't see it. we haven't had any measurable snow or rain yet this year. it's been 98F or over for the last 3 weeks with most days over 105F. tomorrow is expected to get to 118F. until 2 years ago it never got over 92F here. normal summer temps were in the high 80's.
i don't need a scientific review to see that our weather patterns have changed.
in general; people know maybe 25% to 30% of the true facts about global warming. they believe the bits they want to and ignore the bits they don't want to think about.
to prove my point; who on this board has realized that as the ice melts; it distributes it's weight around the globe? this change in pressure on the plates will and has been causing an increase in earthquakes. it has to. from 1980 to 1990; there was something like 89 earthquakes. from 1990 to 2000 there were just over 200. and they get progressively worse. if you graph earthquake frequency with the loss of ice; you'll see they run together proving this cause.
this is only one facet NEVER mentioned on this board except by me.
or how about this; canada's tundra is held together by ice. when that ice softens; an earthquake will cause the tundra to stratify and slip into the sea. in alaska; an entire coastal town slipped into the sea when the ground stratified because of an earthquake.
***DEVIL'S ADVOCATE ALERT***
As I continue to play devil's advocate...
If you look at the islands directly to the west of Greenland you can clearly see that they used to all fit together onto the north shore of Canada the same way South America and Africa used to fit together. Has this earthquake and slippage activity ever happened before over the history of this planet? I would argue that what you are talking about is not new - accelerated maybe - but not new. Maybe there was a catastrophic event millions of years ago that caused that land to start to slide away.
#==(o )
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
what bothers me is it's right under peoples noses and they can't see it. we haven't had any measurable snow or rain yet this year. it's been 98F or over for the last 3 weeks with most days over 105F. tomorrow is expected to get to 118F. until 2 years ago it never got over 92F here. normal summer temps were in the high 80's.
i don't need a scientific review to see that our weather patterns have changed.
My weatherman tells me it's hotter than ever. I don't need a scientific review either. I know it's hotter. I just don't know why. Most people THINK they know why. On that I guess we'll disagree forever, but when a report is released by an intergovernmental panel of scientists that is not definitive, what does that tell you?
#==(o )
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
I sorta can't forget the ozone layer...that sucks eh?
Are you so sure about yourself now? really are you?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
or how about this; canada's tundra is held together by ice. when that ice softens; an earthquake will cause the tundra to stratify and slip into the sea. in alaska; an entire coastal town slipped into the sea when the ground stratified because of an earthquake.
Are you sure about this? What about the Canadian Shield?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
My weatherman tells me it's hotter than ever. I don't need a scientific review either. I know it's hotter. I just don't know why. Most people THINK they know why. On that I guess we'll disagree forever, but when a report is released by an intergovernmental panel of scientists that is not definitive, what does that tell you?
and thus my point. the real cause of global warming is people who deny it and don't take responsability for their actions. those not prepared will die. mark my words. i've been studying this since the 1998 discovery of the cause of the permian extinction.
you'll never get an intergovernmental panel to agree because of lobbist groups. as a former politician; i can tell you we're told what we can and can't say.
I sorta can't forget the ozone layer...that sucks eh?
Are you so sure about yourself now? really are you?
I don't think I ever said I was sure of anything related to global warming or the ozone layer, I'm just offering an alternate viewpoint (however lame it may be at times).
#==(o )
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
i can tell you we're told what we can and can't say.
And thus my point - and it has been all along.
#==(o )
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
Maybe I'm just not spending enough of my life on message boards then. Sorry, I really hope you know what I meant, my dad used to say that to me all the time.
If you were renting an apartment and your boss told you you were "very likely" to get a promotion and a raise, and you went to the bank to ask for a mortgage to buy a house and on the application it asked your occupation and you put "I'll 'very likely' be a manager soon," what do you think the bank would say?
uhhh ... care to answer my question?? ...
but i will answer yours - i'm not sure what the bank will say - most likely come back when you get that raise ... what is your point? ...
i'll give u the example i give everyone else who never responds
There's a reason nobody responds to that question.
#==(o )
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
hence why i try not to get into these discussions anymore
Yeah, I'm burned out anyway. Thanks for the laughs...
#==(o )
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
Comments
didn't reagan give em to em ... either way ... the initial inspectors post gulf war 1 was prepared to give saddam the all clear ... so, he didn't have em then so i don't see how they could have em a few years ago ...
i know that developing nations are exempt ... but the reality is that the USA is still one of the largest emitters per capita - and they aren't doing anything about it ... well, not at the federal level that is ...
indias emissions exceed the us and europe combined. someone posted the report here months ago and i don't have the link. maybe someone else does.
i thought bush put him in position towards the end of his term. clinton gave him power with weapons and protection. clinton also protected bin ladin. bin ladin declared war on the us in 1992 or 1993 with the first wtc bombing. throughout the entire clinton administration there were terrorist attacks against the us from plane bombings to casino bombings and clinton never did a thing to try to control the problem. clinton gave saddam the weapons under the ideal that saddam would help keep iran in line.
only if you REALLY need to drive ...
not true ... china is the biggest emitter ... US is second ...
but on a per-capta basis - US is like 1 or 2 ... i think luxembourg is one or something ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/story/0,,2064725,00.html
i stand corrected.
Maybe I'm just not spending enough of my life on message boards then. Sorry, I really hope you know what I meant, my dad used to say that to me all the time.
If you were renting an apartment and your boss told you you were "very likely" to get a promotion and a raise, and you went to the bank to ask for a mortgage to buy a house and on the application it asked your occupation and you put "I'll 'very likely' be a manager soon," what do you think the bank would say?
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
what bothers me is it's right under peoples noses and they can't see it. we haven't had any measurable snow or rain yet this year. it's been 98F or over for the last 3 weeks with most days over 105F. tomorrow is expected to get to 118F. until 2 years ago it never got over 92F here. normal summer temps were in the high 80's.
i don't need a scientific review to see that our weather patterns have changed.
***DEVIL'S ADVOCATE ALERT***
As I continue to play devil's advocate...
If you look at the islands directly to the west of Greenland you can clearly see that they used to all fit together onto the north shore of Canada the same way South America and Africa used to fit together. Has this earthquake and slippage activity ever happened before over the history of this planet? I would argue that what you are talking about is not new - accelerated maybe - but not new. Maybe there was a catastrophic event millions of years ago that caused that land to start to slide away.
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
My weatherman tells me it's hotter than ever. I don't need a scientific review either. I know it's hotter. I just don't know why. Most people THINK they know why. On that I guess we'll disagree forever, but when a report is released by an intergovernmental panel of scientists that is not definitive, what does that tell you?
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
I sorta can't forget the ozone layer...that sucks eh?
Are you so sure about yourself now? really are you?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Are you sure about this? What about the Canadian Shield?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Shield
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
and thus my point. the real cause of global warming is people who deny it and don't take responsability for their actions. those not prepared will die. mark my words. i've been studying this since the 1998 discovery of the cause of the permian extinction.
you'll never get an intergovernmental panel to agree because of lobbist groups. as a former politician; i can tell you we're told what we can and can't say.
I don't think I ever said I was sure of anything related to global warming or the ozone layer, I'm just offering an alternate viewpoint (however lame it may be at times).
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
And thus my point - and it has been all along.
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
uhhh ... care to answer my question?? ...
but i will answer yours - i'm not sure what the bank will say - most likely come back when you get that raise ... what is your point? ...
DING DING DING - we have a winner! You're right...come back when you know for sure. That's my point. See - that wasn't that hard.
There's a reason nobody responds to that question.
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
sad
hence why i try not to get into these discussions anymore
Yeah, I'm burned out anyway. Thanks for the laughs...
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.