New crusade?

yiorgisyiorgis Posts: 34
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
Hi i am from Greece.I read about a week ago an article in a local magazine about a group of soldiers who participated in the conquest of Bagdat on 2004 and now are acused for murdering innocent people and young children.What was terrifying was on the pictures of the soldiers you could see tattoes on their bodies like "soldiers of christ".I am wondering if we still in some kind of a way are living in Middle Ages,and a new crusade is taking part.
Forgive me for any mistakes of the language
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  • I do believe that certain elements in the military are on some sort of crusade, for example the Haditha atrocities, although I wouldn't call it government sactioned.
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  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    The US is scheduling testing of a bunker buster nuclear devices in the desert. The name of the test is "Operation Divine Strike". With their eyes on Iran and threats made to Iran about bombing their nuclear facilities, I'm sure "operation divine strike" does sound like a new crusade.
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    qtegirl wrote:
    The US is scheduling testing of a bunker buster nuclear devices in the desert. The name of the test is "Operation Divine Strike". With their eyes on Iran and threats made to Iran about bombing their nuclear facilities, I'm sure "operation divine strike" does sound like a new crusade.

    it's operation divine strake and it wasn't nuclear...it was scheduled for last summer...don't know if it happened....but the divine part does def lend itself to a crusade sound. Granted the rhetoric from Iran against Israel and other infidels sounds a bit like the crusades as well.
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  • yiorgis wrote:
    Hi i am from Greece.I read about a week ago an article in a local magazine about a group of soldiers who participated in the conquest of Bagdat on 2004 and now are acused for murdering innocent people and young children.What was terrifying was on the pictures of the soldiers you could see tattoes on their bodies like "soldiers of christ".I am wondering if we still in some kind of a way are living in Middle Ages,and a new crusade is taking part.
    Forgive me for any mistakes of the language

    You're forgiven Borat. ;)

    Where's this article at? This is the first time I've heard of this and for the most part, I keep up to date on what happens in my country and my fellow veterans. Send me a link or something.
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  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    it could be white supremicists...there supposed to be joinging the military in large numbers <for them> to get the experience
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • qtegirl wrote:
    The US is scheduling testing of a bunker buster nuclear devices in the desert. The name of the test is "Operation Divine Strike". With their eyes on Iran and threats made to Iran about bombing their nuclear facilities, I'm sure "operation divine strike" does sound like a new crusade.

    Any sources for this?
  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    Any sources for this?
    I got some of my facts confused, and chopitdown was kind enough to correct me.
    But a quick search on google for "operation divine strike" or "strake" will yield many more sources (though, like I said, some of my facts were wrong) than I can list here.
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    chopitdown wrote:
    it's operation divine strake and it wasn't nuclear...it was scheduled for last summer...don't know if it happened....but the divine part does def lend itself to a crusade sound. Granted the rhetoric from Iran against Israel and other infidels sounds a bit like the crusades as well.


    no, it was postponed until this year

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Strake

    never heard of 'strake' before

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strake
    A strake is

    1. part of a boat or ship. It is a strip of planking in a wooden vessel or of plating in a metal one, running longitudinally along the vessel's side, its bottom or between them on the turn of the bilge.
    2. a device for controlling air flow over an aircraft.
    3. a tool for tamping down and levelling semi-fluid materials into a mould.
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong wrote:
    it could be white supremicists...there supposed to be joinging the military in large numbers <for them> to get the experience

    I read some articles on that, 57 spread across numerous US installations. Kind of a small number isn't it? I can recall about 10 guys just in my platoon alone who each respectively spent multiple years in various gangs stretching from California to Georgia and everywhere in between.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    El_Kabong wrote:
    no, it was postponed until this year

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Strake

    never heard of 'strake' before

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strake
    A strake is

    1. part of a boat or ship. It is a strip of planking in a wooden vessel or of plating in a metal one, running longitudinally along the vessel's side, its bottom or between them on the turn of the bilge.
    2. a device for controlling air flow over an aircraft.
    3. a tool for tamping down and levelling semi-fluid materials into a mould.

    Divine Strake - washington post http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/06/AR2006040601916.html

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/ops/divine-strake.htm
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  • qtegirl wrote:
    The US is scheduling testing of a bunker buster nuclear devices in the desert. The name of the test is "Operation Divine Strike". With their eyes on Iran and threats made to Iran about bombing their nuclear facilities, I'm sure "operation divine strike" does sound like a new crusade.

    The divine thing probably stems from the fact that the bomb is coming from the skies. WOW what a coincidence. What about all the operations that had DEVIL in the title? OOOHHHH, did you know the first infantry division is also known as the "big RED one". A church at Fort Riley Kansas adjacent to the barracks is known as the "Devils Den". THINK ABOUT IT?
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    qtegirl wrote:
    I got some of my facts confused, and chopitdown was kind enough to correct me.
    But a quick search on google for "operation divine strike" or "strake" will yield many more sources (though, like I said, some of my facts were wrong) than I can list here.

    Either way, i think its a sad, and innappropriate choice of title.
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  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    OK, I finally found what I was talking about:

    Native Americans recently received a ruling in their favor from a United Nations committee in a dispute over land in Nevada at a site that the US
    military has selected to test the effects of the types of tactical nuclear weapons that could be used in an air strike on Iranian nuclear processing facilities.

    The weapons test, referred to as “Operation Divine Strike”, is designed to use 700 tons of conventional and chemical explosives to simulate a
    battlefield-nuclear attack. The weapon to be tested is reported to be five times larger than the military’s largest conventional weapon.

    This spring, the US escalated its rhetoric insisting that Iran not be allowed to develop nuclear energy resources so that it cannot make nuclear weapons. President George Bush recently told reporters that “all options are on
    the table” with respect to the confrontation with the nascent nuclear power, including a small yield nuclear strike.

    Members of the Shoshone Tribe brought the action before the UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination disputing the Treaty of Ruby Valley signed in 1863. The committee ruled that the treaty “did not comply with contemporary human rights norms, principles and standards that govern determination of indigenous property rights.”

    http://www.redstateupdate.net/full-page/fullpage-archive-49.html
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13000.htm
  • yiorgisyiorgis Posts: 34
    You're forgiven Borat. ;)

    Where's this article at? This is the first time I've heard of this and for the most part, I keep up to date on what happens in my country and my fellow veterans. Send me a link or something.


    I've read it on a Greek magazine called E(you pronounce it "epsilon" in Greek)and described actions that took place on November of 2004 at Haditha.After an explosion of a bomb, american soldiers started getting people out of taxies and houses, shooting at them without knowing if they were dangerous or armed.I know that it's difficult to criticize a situation if you don't have a true experience of the situation, but we're talking about young women and children who lost their lifes.
    Sometimes it keeps coming in my mind a phrase from Bob Dylans song about Roubin Carter
    "How can a life of such a man
    Be in the palm of some fool's hand?"
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