Cash spent in Iraq would build 35K U.S. schools

bryanfury

wow. talk about opposite ends of the spectrum.

the long term benefits possible from building new schools as opposed to the long term damage done by this war.

Way to go George!!!

qtegirl

That's assuming that more schools would be built.

In reality I think that it would go more like:

1,000 new F-22 bomber could be built with the money spent in Iraq

macgyver06

everyone in america could have their own K car

chopitdown

macgyver06 wrote:

everyone in america could have their own K car

a nice reliant automobile

macgyver06

or its twin the dodge aries

THOSe THINGS ARE INDESTRUCTIBLE

i used to run over mailboxes and lawn ornaments as a teenager..i would know

Collin

http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182

Someone posted this in another thread.

soulsinging

PEPPER wrote:

35,000 schools huh, then after we build these schools we have to fill them with teachers and pay for maintenance……just like all of the other liberals, throw out an off the wall statistic without any rational thinking. Now all I need is the stat of we could feed billions of starving babies with the money.

When it comes down to it, Bush knows he screwed up, now he has followed the democrate advice (during the elections last month) and is adding more money and troops the war efforts. Now it’s interesting to watch the “top” democrats bash the administration for sending and adding to the efforts…god politics suck

ill agree. ive opposed the war in iraq, but sadly, i dont see any way out at this point. we have to have more troops there if we hope to accomplish anything.

however, id rather see that money going to giving teachers raises and hiring more of them and giving them better books. we don't need new school buildings. we need to make sure the ones we have can operate.

1970RR

The money could also be returned to the taxpayers, who could then spend/save as best suits their families specific needs.

chopitdown

PEPPER wrote:

No, what we need is a school system that holds the teachers we have accountable for the low graduations rates. Rather then pushing them thru the system they should actually do there jobs. Maybe instead of getting the summers off require them to work with the "troubled" kids.

i'd be all for that as long as the parents had to get involved too.

chopitdown

1970RR wrote:

The money could also be returned to the taxpayers, who could then spend/save as best suits their families specific needs.

*common sense alert*

farfromglorified

Hehe...a bunch of people arguing about the best way to spend someone else's money. You guys might not be as different than George Bush as you think.

miller8966

money shoudl go to schools, the american people, and the american war machine.

Collin

farfromglorified wrote:

Hehe...a bunch of people arguing about the best way to spend someone else's money. You guys might not be as different than George Bush as you think.

They are tax payers and they are arguing about how they'd like to see their tax money spent. Wouldn't it be great if all the tax payers came together and agrued about what they wanted to do with that money and came up with a few common goals?

farfromglorified

Collin wrote:

They are tax payers and they are arguing about how they'd like to see their tax money spent.

So all the people here have paid $350,000,000,000 in taxes? Wow.

Wouldn't it be great if all the tax payers came together and agrued about what they wanted to do with that money and came up with a few common goals?

It would be great! It would make taxation largely unnecessary.

However, since all the tax payers have very disparate goals, we enter a situation wherein a few get to steal from the rest to accomplish their chosen goals. I'm sorry that you lost out to a warmonger, but your system kind of asks for it.

Collin

farfromglorified wrote:

So all the people here have paid $350,000,000,000 in taxes? Wow.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying :rolleyes:

Are they no better than Bush, because Bush is actually spending those dollars, they are on a pearl jam message pit debating it.

It would be great! It would make taxation largely unnecessary.

Yep.

However, since all the tax payers have very disparate goals, we enter a situation wherein a few get to steal from the rest to accomplish their chosen goals. I'm sorry that you lost out to a warmonger, but your system kind of asks for it.

I didn't loose out to a warmonger and my system doesn't ask for any of that.

farfromglorified

Collin wrote:

Are they no better than Bush, because Bush is actually spending those dollars, they are on a pearl jam message pit debating it.

Now that is a fair point.

I didn't loose out to a warmonger

Oh, my mistake then. You're cool with George Bush spending your money in Iraq then?

my system doesn't ask for any of that.

What system is that?

Collin

farfromglorified wrote:

Oh, my mistake then. You're cool with George Bush spending your money in Iraq then?

What system is that?

I'm not American. And you are the one who mention my system, so why don't you tell me?

but your system kind of asks for it.

farfromglorified

Collin wrote:

I'm not American. And you are the one who mention my system, so why don't you tell me?

I didn't realize you aren't an American. Where do you live where the government does not forcibly collect ransom from its citizenry and use that money based on the whims of a majority?

Collin

farfromglorified wrote:

Where do you live where the government does not forcibly collect ransom from its citizenry and use that money based on the whims of a majority?

It's a magical land...

No, my government does exactly that. I am not particularly fond of our current government but I guess I wouldn't be fond of many governments. We pay very high taxes but I am glad that we have social welfare.

But how exactly is this my system, that's what I don't get?

bryanfury

PEPPER wrote:

35,000 schools huh, then after we build these schools we have to fill them with teachers and pay for maintenance……just like all of the other liberals, throw out an off the wall statistic without any rational thinking. Now all I need is the stat of we could feed billions of starving babies with the money.

When it comes down to it, Bush knows he screwed up, now he has followed the democrate advice (during the elections last month) and is adding more money and troops the war efforts. Now it’s interesting to watch the “top” democrats bash the administration for sending and adding to the efforts…god politics suck

off the wall statistic? the point being there are a number of things we could have done with this money. Further to that, when money is needed for education, or healthcare, or whatever, its never available. but when its for a war, somehow we always find endless amounts of money. its called priorites buddy.

and i must have missed the part where the "democrates" advised more troops and money.

jeffbr

Collin wrote:

They are tax payers and they are arguing about how they'd like to see their tax money spent. Wouldn't it be great if all the tax payers came together and agrued about what they wanted to do with that money and came up with a few common goals?

Wouldn't it be great if people spent their own money on issues they thought important?


I'd prefer we didn't have enough federal tax revenue to pay for Iraq or 35,000 schools.

bryanfury

jeffbr wrote:

Wouldn't it be great if people spent their own money on issues they thought important?


I'd prefer we didn't have enough federal tax revenue to pay for Iraq or 35,000 schools.

so how would we pay for schools, roads, etc etc etc?

i don;t have a problem paying taxes. i have a problem with my taxes funding illegal wars, bridges to nowhere in Alaska, Pig Museums, and other bullshit earmark projects.

farfromglorified

bryanfury wrote:

so how would we pay for schools, roads, etc etc etc?

How did you pay for your shirt?

farfromglorified

Collin wrote:

But how exactly is this my system, that's what I don't get?

"Your" as in that which you advocate. I'm still trying to figure out what that is as well.

CorporateWhore

Constitutionally, it is illegal for the Federal Government to build schools. It is not one the enumerated powers that it has.

It does have the power to go to war, but it needs a declaration from Congress. Therefore, this war isn't allowed.

OceansJenny

PEPPER wrote:

No, what we need is a school system that holds the teachers we have accountable for the low graduations rates. Rather then pushing them thru the system they should actually do there jobs. Maybe instead of getting the summers off require them to work with the "troubled" kids. You may think I am nuts but I am sure everyone can think back to there school days and remember a group of teachers that sucked......look at me, I have a terrible time deciding what there/their to use (but I know thats my own fault)

Haha are you kidding?? No body wants to be teachers as it is, shitty pay and whatnot, what makes you think holding them responsible for the lazy ass kids who can't graduate HIGH SCHOOL (MY GOD ITS SO EASY) will help the school systems??

OceansJenny

farfromglorified wrote:

Hehe...a bunch of people arguing about the best way to spend someone else's money. You guys might not be as different than George Bush as you think.

Amen. Very very well said

Cosmo

bryanfury wrote:

wow. talk about opposite ends of the spectrum.

the long term benefits possible from building new schools as opposed to the long term damage done by this war.

Way to go George!!!

...
Hosw about this... spend it where it is needed... and if it is not needed... don't collect it?