Obama Pushes Bill That Would Mandate Global Tax

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edited February 2008 in A Moving Train
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    i guess i don't see the problem with this. Sounds cool to me. Its about time the richest nation in the world backed up its talk about helping poor nations and reducing global poverty.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • cornnifer wrote:
    i guess i don't see the problem with this. Sounds cool to me. Its about time the richest nation in the world backed up its talk about helping poor nations and reducing global poverty.

    I think you trust your Government too much.
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    cornnifer wrote:
    i guess i don't see the problem with this. Sounds cool to me. Its about time the richest nation in the world backed up its talk about helping poor nations and reducing global poverty.
    Shit, I dont have money why dont they help me out with that money.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    I think you trust your Government too much.


    you nailed it
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Wow, what a piece of shit legislation. Not just committing x% of gnp to UN causes, but the ratification of every sovereignty-robbing treaty known to man. Fuck that. If it passes the Sentate Bush better veto it.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    jeffbr wrote:
    Wow, what a piece of shit legislation. Not just committing x% of gnp to UN causes, but the ratification of every sovereignty-robbing treaty known to man. Fuck that. If it passes the Sentate Bush better veto it.

    How is it shit legislation? i'd much rather money go to aiding global poverty than a shit fucking war.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    cornnifer wrote:
    How is it shit legislation? i'd much rather money go to aiding global poverty than a shit fucking war.
    Your money is still going to war.
  • Dustin51Dustin51 Posts: 222
    Further evidence that Barrack Obama is an illuminati freemason pushing a globalist agenda.
    Be excellent to each other
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Dustin51 wrote:
    Further evidence that Barrack Obama is an illuminati freemason pushing a globalist agenda.

    :rolleyes:
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Dustin51 wrote:
    Further evidence that Barrack Obama is an illuminati freemason pushing a globalist agenda.
    Apparently you dont know anything about the Illuminati. They arent taking new members. He could be a freemason. Ill check up at the lodge.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    cornnifer wrote:
    How is it shit legislation? i'd much rather money go to aiding global poverty than a shit fucking war.

    I'd rather not be funding this goddam war either. In fact, I'd prefer to have less money stolen from me by the government, and that money that does get taken should be spent as locally as possible fixing problems right here.

    And even more disturbing the the "global tax" is the spreading of America's butt cheeks during the treaty ratifications. Fuck that noise.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Dustin51 wrote:
    Further evidence that Barrack Obama is an Illuminati freemason pushing a globalist agenda.

    thank you for stating the truth

    but what Presidential Candidate that is still in the race isn't?
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Dustin51 wrote:
    Further evidence that Barrack Obama is an illuminati freemason pushing a globalist agenda.

    This just in:

    Obama steals Declaration of Independence. Swears there is a treasure map on the back.


    Sheesh.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • cornnifer wrote:
    This just in:

    Obama steals Declaration of Independence. Swears there is a treasure map on the back.


    Sheesh.

    We have a winner!
    Abraham Lincoln once said, "If you are a racist, I will attack you with the North."
  • God damnit. Not to pump my own feelings, but look assholes, this is why I don't go to church and tithe either.

    I give over $100 a month to four specific children in 3rd world countries.

    http://www.christianchildrensfund.org/

    I get letters and updates from the INDIVIDUAL child or the family all the time. They often include pictures.

    Guess what, it makes a difference. Fuck the rest.

    FUCKING SHITS!.. Fuck all these politician fucks. All of em. Every last fucking one of them fucking fuck fucks.

    I'll do what I want. You don't have to steal it from me you bitch fucks. Your churches are fucking fake too, while I'm at it.

    -Edit-

    Not to be so full of hate. Thanks Ed and company for donating some of my ticket money... anywayz...
    Love is more important to me than faith.
  • Edit: WOW!
    I didn't even read the article (smacks forehead) ... he is behind ANOTHER global tax ?!? OMFG. We need an anti-global tax thread!

    Global Carbon Tax Is Fucking Bullshit!

    People Do Not Fall For This Fucking Crap!

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  • Please read this article before they delete it!

    It is important for people to understand that this is a VERY BAD IDEA.

    They just want your money folks!
    :( :( :(
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • bump
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  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    Please read this article before they delete it!

    It is important for people to understand that this is a VERY BAD IDEA.

    They just want your money folks!
    :( :( :(
    You do know that the article you link actually makes a good case for a CO2-tax, only not the one in particular that is getting support? And the only points against it were that it didn't do enough, really.

    Somehow this article doesnt quite match your number of exclamation marks above...

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • You do know that the article you link actually makes a good case for a CO2-tax, only not the one in particular that is getting support? And the only points against it were that it didn't do enough, really.

    Somehow this article doesnt quite match your number of exclamation marks above...

    Peace
    Dan

    Uh i read the article, and you just slightly (har har) understate the statistics presented, which are in summary that a carbon tax (global or otherwise) would place a massively oppressive tax on the end users of almost all modern energy sources even though a full 90% of the environmental concern addressed is from coal exclusively, which is only about 1\3rd of the tax base ...

    and it doesn't even begin to address non man made global warming.

    And i am an environmentaly conscious person, if you want to know. I think polution and mans impact on the environment have been massively ingnored right in to the new millenium. Fortunately green technology, sustainable design, eco-economy mindedness, and other buzz words are increasingly becoming daily realities in the world of business ... but on the whole mans impact is still far more destructive than it could otherwise be ...

    HOWEVER,
    a carbon tax (especialy a global one) is insidious!

    If the government were REALY concerned with the fucking environment they would just provide MASSIVE TAX INCENTIVES to the coal industry... put a big ole fucking ripe ass tax-carrot out on a stick ... and say "here coal industry, clean the fuck up! get smart!" ...

    But no!
    What are they doing?
    They are going after the LARGEST MOST CONTINOUS TAX BASE POSSIBLE ... totaly disregarding that TWO THIRDS of those taxed are contributing significantly to help solve a problem they aren't realy responsible for.

    Why not just ask the industry with the deep pockets that is putting the "deadly" product on the market to simply clean up its act, and by the way offer them a reason to do so?

    You truly don't view such a tax as disgustingly oppressive?
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    You truly don't view such a tax as disgustingly oppressive?
    Not really. But I'm not convinced either way. I'll probably support it even if 90% comes from a third of the production. That will still cause reduction and hence a good thing.

    That's not saying that I'm for taxing anything for whatever, but I dont think taxes as a tool for better environment is such a bad idea. Depends on how they do it. Apply to all taxes in general really.

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    cornnifer wrote:
    i guess i don't see the problem with this. Sounds cool to me. Its about time the richest nation in the world backed up its talk about helping poor nations and reducing global poverty.

    Taxes aren't about helping the poor. They are about giving power to governments and taking away our freedoms.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • oh fuck, you mean we're talking about paying for stuff and helping poor people again?

    fuck them, if they were any good, they'd have food and clean water!

    fuck public schools, garbage pick up, cops, fire and an unessisary war!

    I don't want to pay for ANYTHING!!!

    yeee-hawww!!!

    (sarcasm)

    OBAMA 08!!!
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    oh fuck, you mean we're talking about paying for stuff and helping poor people again?

    fuck them, if they were any good, they'd have food and clean water!

    fuck public schools, garbage pick up, cops, fire and an unessisary war!

    I don't want to pay for ANYTHING!!!

    yeee-hawww!!!

    (sarcasm)

    OBAMA 08!!!

    No kidding! Why don't they all get jobs!

    (more sarcasm)
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    The reason they are so bad off is us. Maybe if we stopped raping their natural resources we wouldnt ahve this problem.
  • Nevermind wrote:
    The reason they are so bad off is us. Maybe if we stopped raping their natural resources we wouldnt ahve this problem.

    Amen.
    It is the aggregate affect of US Foreign Policy that has fucked most of these countries ... most notably our "Free Trade" organizations have waged wanton destruction on the internal economies of more countries than one could name in a post ...

    ... it is laughable that people would think that the solution to this type of problem is to give up more of their own wealth to the same government that is fucking those people.
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    know1 wrote:
    Taxes aren't about helping the poor. They are about giving power to governments and taking away our freedoms.

    Oh. O.k. Thanks for keeping me informed. :rolleyes:
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
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