New poll shows Obama with double digit lead in NH

cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
edited January 2008 in A Moving Train
The latest polls show Barack Obama with a double digit lead over Hillary Clinton. Put a fucking fork in her folks! She's done! i can't wait to see her get all spastic like the melting witch in the Wizard of Oz.


Obama 08!!!
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Oops. In my excitement, i nearly forgot...
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/06/nh.poll/index.html
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • t206t206 Posts: 63
    cornnifer wrote:
    The latest polls show Barack Obama with a double digit lead over Hillary Clinton. Put a fucking fork in her folks! She's done! i can't wait to see her get all spastic like the melting witch in the Wizard of Oz.


    Obama 08!!!

    I can understand the excitement of seeing Hillary fade away, but cant for the life of me get my head around all of this excitement for Obama.

    He really isnt any different than the other candidates in terms of being a member of the CFR, and just another big government political elite...he just happens to have a good speech writer and throws around the words "hope" and "change" as often as Rudy says 9/11 and terrorists. Just because he uses those words doesnt convince me that he embodies them.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Every poll I've seen until now shows Obama w/ anywhere from a one point to now this 10 point lead. I've found that the truth lies somewhere between the extremes. I wouldn't be surprised if he was up six or seven, but I find ten hard to believe right now. Then again, there is always talk of the ten point boost from Iowa.

    To the poster before me, while he may be no different to you there is a lot to say about how he makes people feel. None of the Democrat candidates policies are way off course from one another, but if you had to pick one, wouldn't you want the one that makes you believe that we live in a country where the son of a goat farmer from Kenya could be President. What's wrong with believing in something positive when for seven years there's been no reason to believe in anything?
  • t206t206 Posts: 63
    To the poster before me, while he may be no different to you there is a lot to say about how he makes people feel. None of the Democrat candidates policies are way off course from one another, but if you had to pick one, wouldn't you want the one that makes you believe that we live in a country where the son of a goat farmer from Kenya could be President. What's wrong with believing in something positive when for seven years there's been no reason to believe in anything?

    I agree with what you said about the polls, they can be so far out of whack sometimes.

    As for the hope situation, its wonderful and great to have hope, thats what the country was founded on practically. However, its REALLY counterproductive and a huge letdown to have false hope. I honestly dont see him providing the answers/solutions to show what we should be hopeful about. Again, he has ex-clinton advisors, is a member of the CFR, is for the patriot act, wont agree to ending the war/presence in Iraq until 2013, and wont rule out attacking Iran. I dont see any change or hope in his real stances...only in his words, which arent holding any water when you start to dig deeper into his actions.
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Every poll I've seen until now shows Obama w/ anywhere from a one point to now this 10 point lead. I've found that the truth lies somewhere between the extremes. I wouldn't be surprised if he was up six or seven, but I find ten hard to believe right now. Then again, there is always talk of the ten point boost from Iowa.

    i, honestly don't put a huge amount of faith in polls myself. For me, it isn't the actual numbers that have me excited, but the trend. During the Iowa caucus the NH polls showed Hillary ahead. Yesterday they were dead even, and now they show Obama with a 10 point lead. The numbers may not, as you say be precise, but the trend shows him passing Clinton, pulling away and building a sizeable lead. Thats exciting. Oh, to be a fly on the wall in her room.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    he is clearly the candidate to beat...

    i only hope edwards acan make another great showing...
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    hands down, he looks like John F Kennedy to her Richard Nixon. The Media could use some softer light in photographing her to make her look more favorable definately, but it's pretty obvious she is a lot more of the same old thing (+ a vindictave attitude) No one is really buying what she is selling in a general election.
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  • Pacomc79 wrote:
    hands down, he looks like John F Kennedy to her Richard Nixon. The Media could use some softer light in photographing her to make her look more favorable definately, but it's pretty obvious she is a lot more of the same old thing (+ a vindictave attitude) No one is really buying what she is selling in a general election.

    And she is getting nastier as she falls behind... It was great that edwards called her out on it in the debate last night.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    And she is getting nastier as she falls behind... It was great that edwards called her out on it in the debate last night.

    CNN, USA Today, and C-Span/Zogby all have Obama with double digit leads. Maybe there is more truth to this than I anticipated.

    I've also read that Hillary is already moving on to South Carolina. I think she's dead in the water there. 50% of the Democratic voters in South Carolina are African Americans who seem to be moving towards Obama since he has proven he can win in "white" states in the heartand of the country.
  • http://www.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1064997

    I love this :D

    So I spent winter break with some " political insiders" ( we just happen to stay at the same small place for the past 20 years.)

    I have my Obama AND my Pearl Jam stickers all over my car & my laptop.

    They can't help but notice- but I stayed out of most of their discussions regarding how Clinton naturally would be the choice and how confused they were regarding anyone could possibly think Obama had 1/2 a chance.

    Ok whatever- they are Clinton dems ( one was even in his cabinet) and they can't think outside the box.

    Then my H had his Mike "pick" shirt on. So they had to make a comment about that - oh whos that?
    Pearl Jam?
    wasn't that the 80s?
    ( although one of them did comment about how much work Mike has done with CCFA- so he stayed out of the slamming PJ)

    So I said something about how I was at the Obama fundraiser in Seattle recently, that Brad provided entertainment for- I figured they would know Stone since he is so involved in local environmental issues as are they.

    " oh- ...well- Krist ( who we are such good friends with), is all about Clinton"
    Well thats very nice- but are we going to elect candidates based on which rock stars they attract?

    I would really love to see their rationalization of Obama pulling ahead of Clinton in double digits.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    CNN, USA Today, and C-Span/Zogby all have Obama with double diget leads.

    digit

    sorry, had to do it. it was driving me crazy :D
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    my2hands wrote:
    digit

    sorry, had to do it. it was driving me crazy :D

    Ha! You know sometimes you look at a word when it is spellect right and it just doesn't LOOK like it is. That was the case here.
  • Here we are lord satan neo-con adorns his copious prophetic blessings on Obama. Slam dunk.

    Abandon the Obama bus, it couldn't be any more stinkingly clear what's going on here. In effing bed with the lot of them.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/07/william-kristols-first-s_n_80194.html
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Here we are lord satan neo-con adorns his copious prophetic blessings on Obama. Slam dunk.

    Abandon the Obama bus, it couldn't be any more stinkingly clear what's going on here. In effing bed with the lot of them.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/07/william-kristols-first-s_n_80194.html

    Obviously Obama is in bed w/ Kristol. Are you kidding me? You don't think there's ANY chance at all of Kristol doing this to shove ANYTHING in the ass of the Clinton people?

    Come on Roland
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