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Is Heather McCartney disabled?

dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
edited February 2007 in A Moving Train
well she is a registered disabled person and therefore has a blue badge on her car(s) that enables her to use disabled parking zones...

fair enough so far...

but she is soon to appear on the US version of Strictly Come Dancing (celebrity people do ball dancing/tango/salsa/etc) and so i believe a disabled group near London are asking for her to have her disabled badge revoked.



Sir Paul McCartney's estranged wife Heather Mills' forthcoming appearance on "Dancing with the Stars" has angered a disabled group in her native Britain, which claims her ability to dance means she is able-bodied.

Mills wears a prosthetic limb after she lost her left leg below the knee following a 1993 road accident in London.

After the charity campaigner confirmed she would be a contestant on the show next month, the Federation of Disabled People claims she has no right to use the blue disabled badge on her Mercedes car, which gives users priority parking in public places and in car parks.

The Federation's spokesperson Kathy Gordon says, "Clearly she has mobility so she should refrain from using the badge. It's not fair on other disabled people."
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    I just hope Clyde the Glide Dunks on her Ass! :D
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    South of Seattle wrote:
    I just hope Clyde the Glide Dunks on her Ass! :D

    i have no idea what that means... but you used my name in a sentence so have a gold star
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I don't like the word "disabled". To me it implies that the person is essentially in a coma. If they can get out, drive and be mobile, they aren't disabled in my book. I think the term "handicapped" is better.
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  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    dunkman wrote:
    i have no idea what that means... but you used my name in a sentence so have a gold star
    He's a basketball player that is on the show as well. One of my favorites of time.
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  • moeaholicmoeaholic Posts: 535
    know1 wrote:
    I don't like the word "disabled". To me it implies that the person is essentially in a coma. If they can get out, drive and be mobile, they aren't disabled in my book. I think the term "handicapped" is better.

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    the dude: "oh, so he's a cripple?"
    brandt: "uhh...mr. lebowski is, um....disabled, yes."

    as far as the topic of this thread...give me a break. they want to take her parking privileges away because she's dancing? are they implying that someone with a disability (or handicapped) can't dance?
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    how about we take motorized carts and close spaces away from morbidly obese people at the supermarket would that be better?
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    know1 wrote:
    I don't like the word "disabled". To me it implies that the person is essentially in a coma. If they can get out, drive and be mobile, they aren't disabled in my book. I think the term "handicapped" is better.

    handicapped to me seems derogatory...

    i wonder what the 'correct' term is?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    dunkman wrote:
    handicapped to me seems derogatory...

    i wonder what the 'correct' term is?
    I'd say "physically challenged" is the appropriate term.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    how about we take motorized carts and close spaces away from morbidly obese people at the supermarket would that be better?
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  • ArctangentArctangent Posts: 614
    know1 wrote:
    I don't like the word "disabled". To me it implies that the person is essentially in a coma. If they can get out, drive and be mobile, they aren't disabled in my book. I think the term "handicapped" is better.

    you are not allowed to use the term handicapped in the uk now. apparently its not politically correct.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I'd say "physically challenged" is the appropriate term.

    its disabled.

    i got that from the British Council of Disabled People themselves... if they use, we should :)

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=disabled&meta=
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    moeaholic wrote:
    as far as the topic of this thread...give me a break. they want to take her parking privileges away because she's dancing? are they implying that someone with a disability (or handicapped) can't dance?


    when you see how she dances then you'll wonder what disability she has... apparently the girl can fucking move!!!!

    i think thats where they are coming from!
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Arctangent wrote:
    you are not allowed to use the term handicapped in the uk now. apparently its not politically correct.


    See, to me the term "disabled" would be far less politically correct. It implies you can't do anything.
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    know1 wrote:
    See, to me the term "disabled" would be far less politically correct. It implies you can't do anything.
    I agree. I don't like it at all. Physically Challenged wouldn't be such a hard blow, compared to "disabled".
  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    The term that you are supposed to use now is "handicapable."
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    Don't people have something better to worry about than someone who is missing half a leg getting a good parking spot?
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    I don't know what being disabled entitles you to in the UK. Here it's pretty much all about the parking spaces, and I can certainly see how people with genuine disabilities would get pissed off seeing someone capable of competition dancing taking the primo spot right next to the door. There have been days over the past year when I've had to stop and rest halfway across the garage, and I don't have a disabled parking pass .... I have to admit, I'd have been a little ticked off if I'd seen someone hopping out of their car in one of those spaces after seeing them dancing on TV last night.

    As the the terminology ... "handicapped" is defined as "having a physical or mental disability," so I don't see what the big deal is there. If people with disabilities prefer to be called disabled, then "disabled" they are.
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    hippiemom wrote:
    As the the terminology ... "handicapped" is defined as "having a physical or mental disability," so I don't see what the big deal is there. If people with disabilities prefer to be called disabled, then "disabled" they are.
    With all due respect, I disagree with the label because my daughter is considered disabled because she has Down syndrome. She is not physically disabled; just developmentally. She is very "abled" in my opinion and with anyone else who knows her. :)
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Jeanwah wrote:
    With all due respect, I disagree with the label because my daughter is considered disabled because she has Down syndrome. She is not physically disabled; just developmentally. She is very "abled" in my opinion and with anyone else who knows her. :)
    I don't think of anyone who is disabled as being TOTALLY disabled, and I don't think many people do. My mom can't walk, but she can do many other remarkable things ... she has a disability in the walking department, that's all.

    I don't know, I've never been one to get too caught up in semantics. When I'm disabled, I refer to myself as a cripple or gimp. Your daughter is what she is, the word doesn't change anything. Anyone who knows her knows that, and who really cares about everyone else?
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    When I was in the States it seemed like everyone had one of those blue badges. Do they hand them out for free to anyone or something?
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Collin wrote:
    When I was in the States it seemed like everyone had one of those blue badges. Do they hand them out for free to anyone or something?
    Basically, all you have to do is get a Doctor to sign a form saying you need one. One trip to the DMV later, you have a blue badge.
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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    how about we take motorized carts and close spaces away from morbidly obese people at the supermarket would that be better?

    a morbidly obese person is that way because they choose to be. they are arrogant with their carts and expect everyone to jump out of the way; or at least levitate.
    but here we have a scam. reach 300 lbs and get social security. a friend is a caregiver for these people and it's all self inflicted. not only is there social security but all the states benefits too.
    most disabled people strive to get everything out of life they can. they are still people don't forget. i recall someone with a new type of leg setting some kind of running record. but i'm sure he has bad days. so it's hard for anyone to judge except maybe thier doctor.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    hippiemom wrote:
    I don't think of anyone who is disabled as being TOTALLY disabled, and I don't think many people do. My mom can't walk, but she can do many other remarkable things ... she has a disability in the walking department, that's all.

    I don't know, I've never been one to get too caught up in semantics. When I'm disabled, I refer to myself as a cripple or gimp. Your daughter is what she is, the word doesn't change anything. Anyone who knows her knows that, and who really cares about everyone else?

    the term disabled is compared to the majority. the government says women and minorities are disabled; sometimes refered to as socially disadvantaged. i do agree with what you said. i knew a social security judge who was so strick; the running joke was that he'd tell a completely paralized person to get a job as a speed bump.
    i refer to disabled as unable to work at a normal job in a normal setting.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    onelongsong wrote:
    the government says women and minorities are disabled
    The government says no such thing. It says that they are discriminated against, which they sometimes are.
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  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    There is a rumor Paul McCartney pulled off her false leg and beat her with it, screaming "Dance for me, whore....dance for me !!" If you can dance on one leg you are not disabled, IMO.
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  • tooferztooferz Posts: 135
    technically, i've been classified as disabled by social security. i don't much like the term but i guess thats as good a word as any to cover all the different types of mental and physical handicaps while being politically correct.

    physically, i'm not totally disabled IMO. to look at me you wouldn't really guess i was. given enough tequila and pain pills to block pain (and a good nap before going out), i can go dancing. it takes about a week to recover from it, but only my family and closest friends know how hard it is on me and why it's it important to put myself through that.

    my point is this... heather has lost a leg therefore she has a disability. yes, she seems to get along well with her prosthesis but do we know if it hurts to use it, wears her out or her reasoning behind wanting to dance? besides, weren't the 'handicapped' changes, disability act, etc., made specifically so the disabled could be a part of the 'normal' world? if so, then why are people complaining about her taking part in the 'normal' world? that's almost like saying since a handicapped person used a non-handicapped stall in a bathroom, they obviously don't need to have the special one so let's remove it.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Wouldn't you think that this would be an uplifting thing for people who are "disabled"??? Someone who has a prosthetic leg, is showing that no matter what perceived limitations a person may have, due to a handicap, they can still go out and enjoy life just like people who are not handicapped. People have way too much time on their hands to bitch about things which have little or no relevance in daily life.
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  • deadmosquitodeadmosquito Posts: 729
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    There is a rumor Paul McCartney pulled off her false leg and beat her with it, screaming "Dance for me, whore....dance for me !!" If you can dance on one leg you are not disabled, IMO.


    i'm not sure if this is true or not, but am i a bad person for laughing at the mental picture i got?
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    There is a rumor Paul McCartney pulled off her false leg and beat her with it, screaming "Dance for me, whore....dance for me !!" If you can dance on one leg you are not disabled, IMO.
    He clubbed her like a baby seal.........:D
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