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Curfews in the US

BinauralBinaural Posts: 1,046
edited July 2007 in A Moving Train
Ok so I checked out a thread in the AIT forum and in it it mentioned that in some towns the local govt. can apply a curfew. Can someone explain this to me, how does it work? Is it common? What are the terms of and curfew and what are the types of consequences one would face for breaking a curfew?
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    I saw that same thread and was equally surprised.
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  • markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,173
    Cities can impose teenage curfew by city ordnance laws. They use a lot of reasons to impose the curfew, most notably juvenile crime and trying to stop gang-related activities. Usually, whoever creates the ordnance laws comes to a set time and they say that any teenager age x and under must have a parent/guardian with them after the set time. A lot of places use 10:00 PM and 16 years old for their curfew laws.

    A first time offender typically gets a warning. Repeat offenders are fined. If you habitually break the curfew, I think the teenager could be forced to spend some time (probably one day or so) in juvey.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Are parents that irresponsible that the cities have to step in and impose curfews? Sad....

    markymark550 wrote:
    A first time offender typically gets a warning. Repeat offenders are fined. If you habitually break the curfew, I think the teenager could be forced to spend some time (probably one day or so) in juvey.

    Shouldn't the parents be fined or something too?
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    markymark550 wrote:
    Cities can impose teenage curfew by city ordnance laws. They use a lot of reasons to impose the curfew, most notably juvenile crime and trying to stop gang-related activities. Usually, whoever creates the ordnance laws comes to a set time and they say that any teenager age x and under must have a parent/guardian with them after the set time. A lot of places use 10:00 PM and 16 years old for their curfew laws.

    A first time offender typically gets a warning. Repeat offenders are fined. If you habitually break the curfew, I think the teenager could be forced to spend some time (probably one day or so) in juvey.
    Some places will also fine the parents/parent/guardian for repeat offenses. The 10:00 p.m. curfew is generally for school nights in the proper season. It may be midnight or 1:00 a.m. on weekends or during the summer. There is a waiver for teens who can prove that they are coming from a job that keeps them until the curfew or after it. Some times the first offense warning includes detaining the offender until the parents can arrive to escort them home.
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  • Hitch-HikerHitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    Yeah, I read that too, and I gotta say, It seems mighty oppressive to me. Goin out at night and hangin around fields coz you're too young to go to the pub is part of growing up. For the most part, it's harmless fun.
    Obviously there are gonna be a few kids who cause real trouble (vandalism, theft, etc) but cops should be able to deal with that. And you gotta keep in mind that it's not just the kids who break laws, so the curfew might as well be put on everyone.
    Keeping younger teenagers off the streets later on is entirely up to the parents. The government shouldn't have any say whatsoever.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Hitch-Hiker wrote:
    Yeah, I read that too, and I gotta say, It seems mighty oppressive to me. Goin out at night and hangin around fields coz you're too young to go to the pub is part of growing up. For the most part, it's harmless fun.
    Obviously there are gonna be a few kids who cause real trouble (vandalism, theft, etc) but cops should be able to deal with that. And you gotta keep in mind that it's not just the kids who break laws, so the curfew might as well be put on everyone.
    Keeping younger teenagers off the streets later on is entirely up to the parents. The government shouldn't have any say whatsoever.
    The curfews tend to exist in urban areas.........where kids don't get to hang out in fields....just the streets. Some people view them as a safety issue...protecting the kids from the nocturnal evil-doers. It might also help to remember that we are a violent nation compared to the motherlands. Birmingham, Alabama is excited that we have had only 46 murders this calendar year as opposed to the 62 murders at this point last year.
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  • Hitch-HikerHitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    Well, I suppose in inner-city areas it may hold some merit, but I was under the impression that the laws were blanketed over whole cities or counties, and consequently being put into effect in areas where they are definitely not needed. Also, the original poster who was tagged for breaking curfew (on the AET) wasn't from a big city, so in those cases it does seem very pointless.

    On a related point - Those murder stats are pretty shocking TyBird. Just did a quick search, and Ireland had 68 murders in the last year. Now that's a whole country (albeit a small one), compared to one city. Fucked up, but that's a debate for another day.
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  • markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,173
    Hitch-Hiker wrote:
    Well, I suppose in inner-city areas it may hold some merit, but I was under the impression that the laws were blanketed over whole cities or counties, and consequently being put into effect in areas where they are definitely not needed. Also, the original poster who was tagged for breaking curfew (on the AET) wasn't from a big city, so in those cases it does seem very pointless.
    I believe the laws are in effect only throughout cities, since the curfew laws are usually enacted in city-wide ordinances.

    I could be wrong about that, but I haven't seen where the laws were enacted at the county or state level.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Are parents that irresponsible that the cities have to step in and impose curfews? Sad....




    you are correct
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Are parents that irresponsible that the cities have to step in and impose curfews? Sad....

    some parents are. and true, it is very sad.. :(
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Hitch-Hiker wrote:
    Yeah, I read that too, and I gotta say, It seems mighty oppressive to me. Goin out at night and hangin around fields coz you're too young to go to the pub is part of growing up. For the most part, it's harmless fun.
    Obviously there are gonna be a few kids who cause real trouble (vandalism, theft, etc) but cops should be able to deal with that. And you gotta keep in mind that it's not just the kids who break laws, so the curfew might as well be put on everyone.
    Keeping younger teenagers off the streets later on is entirely up to the parents. The government shouldn't have any say whatsoever.

    i agree with you on this one, except for one matter... our "kids who cause real trouble" do ALOT more than theft and vandalism...such as robbery, murder, open air drug dealing, etc, etc, etc... along with the other minor things you mentioned

    it's fucked up over here, trust me
  • Hitch-HikerHitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    I guess we'd have an amount of that over here too. Unfortunately some people get into really fucked up stuff at very young ages. But if young teenagers are involved in serious crime, I doubt they're going to take much notice of a curfew, so I really can't see the point of it.
    That takes me back to tybird's point that the original thinking behind such curfews are actually meant for our own protection. I'm not a minor, but I do know that most everyone who is affected by a curfew views it as oppressive to themselves, rather than protective. And even normal kids will flaunt it because they see it as being unfair. They probably would never cause any trouble, just hang around a parking lot or something, but then they get tagged by cops too, for disobeying a rule which shouldn't be there in the first place.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Hitch-Hiker wrote:
    I guess we'd have an amount of that over here too. Unfortunately some people get into really fucked up stuff at very young ages. But if young teenagers are involved in serious crime, I doubt they're going to take much notice of a curfew, so I really can't see the point of it.
    That takes me back to tybird's point that the original thinking behind such curfews are actually meant for our own protection. I'm not a minor, but I do know that most everyone who is affected by a curfew views it as oppressive to themselves, rather than protective. And even normal kids will flaunt it because they see it as being unfair. They probably would never cause any trouble, just hang around a parking lot or something, but then they get tagged by cops too, for disobeying a rule which shouldn't be there in the first place.

    I agree completely. This whole curfew thing seems more like a joke, it's hard to believe it's real in some places.
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