warmest winter ever

NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
any other nut jobs out there still think warming is a myth?

why do i get the feeling fox news will have an article saying coldest winter in 100 years.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/03/15/warmest.winter.reut/index.html

HINGTON (Reuters) -- This has been the world's warmest winter since record-keeping began more than a century ago, the U.S. government agency that tracks weather reported Thursday.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said the combined global land and ocean surface temperature from December through February was at its highest since records began in 1880.

A record-warm January was responsible for pushing up the combined winter temperature, according to the agency's Web siteexternal link.

"Contributing factors were the long-term trend toward warmer temperatures, as well as a moderate El Nino in the Pacific," Jay Lawrimore of NOAA's National Climatic Data Center said in a telephone interview from Asheville, North Carolina.

The next-warmest winter on record was in 2004, and the third warmest winter was in 1998, Lawrimore said.

The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 1995.

"We don't say this winter is evidence of the influence of greenhouse gases," Lawrimore said.

However, he noted that his center's work is part of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change process, which released a report on global warming last month that found climate change is occurring and that human activities quite likely play a role in the change.

"So we know as a part of that, the conclusions have been reached and the warming trend is due in part to rises in greenhouse gas emissions," Lawrimore said. "By looking at long-term trends and long-term changes, we are able to better understand natural and anthropogenic [human-caused] climate change."

The combined temperature for the December-February period was 1.3 degrees F (0.72 degree C) above the 20th century mean, the agency said.

Lawrimore did not give an absolute temperature for the three-month period, and said the deviation from the mean was what was important. He did not provide the 20th century mean temperature.

Temperatures were above average for these months in Europe, Asia, western Africa, southeastern Brazil and the northeast half of the United States, with cooler-than-average conditions in parts of Saudi Arabia and the central United States.

Global temperature on land surface during the Northern Hemisphere winter was also the warmest on record, while the ocean-surface temperature tied for second warmest after the winter of 1997-98.

Over the past century, global surface temperatures have increased by about 0.11 degree F per decade, but the rate of increase has been three times larger since 1976 -- around 0.32 degree F per decade, with some of the biggest temperature rises in the high latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    You mean - warmest winter since 1880. Explain to me again how 127 years compares to the length of time Earth has been in existence.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    its been one of the coldest winters in chicago. I wish it would warm up already.
  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    as an avid skier i wish it would have been the coldest winter in PA.
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  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    know1 wrote:
    You mean - warmest winter since 1880. Explain to me again how 127 years compares to the length of time Earth has been in existence.
    so because records werent kept


    ok warmest since 1880


    you happy?

    and the last 10 years being the warmest is a trend regardless of when records were being kept.
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  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    know1 wrote:
    You mean - warmest winter since 1880. Explain to me again how 127 years compares to the length of time Earth has been in existence.

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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    I'm scared.
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    zstillings wrote:
    I'm scared.

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  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    how can you be scared of temperature readings.


    they're just numbers which point out trends


    if you dont like what they say, then continue to keep your mind closed
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    NOCODE#1 wrote:
    how can you be scared of temperature readings.


    they're just numbers which point out trends


    if you dont like what they say, then continue to keep your mind closed


    instead of calling people nut jobs, how about you try and make suggestions to what you feel might help in preventing global warming. if thats even possible
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    in a deep announcer voice
    > well you see, it's simply the earths natural cycle...even though I have no real evidence to support this...those who say global warming is happening may have science on their side...god told me otherwise....it's important to note, if business had to address CO2 output, that would cost precious money...which in the long run may be worthless 50 years from now, but what's important now is the bottom line and the shareholders....
  • belfast1belfast1 Posts: 788
    I'm all for a bit of warming - it was baltic this morning in northern ireland
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  • sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    it was 90 in santa barbara on monday. its never that hot here.
  • _Crazy_Mary__Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    Funny how this was the warmest winter and yet it's only the 2nd time in my lifetime I've seen my 4 acre pond freeze. :rolleyes:
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    it was 90 in santa barbara on monday. its never that hot here.

    I always hated it when we got that much heat there.
  • know1 wrote:
    You mean - warmest winter since 1880. Explain to me again how 127 years compares to the length of time Earth has been in existence.

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  • belfast1belfast1 Posts: 788
    It's Al Gore's fault.


    that electric ladder in his film - yeah
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  • yield2meyield2me Posts: 1,291
    i like it warm :)
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Funny how this was the warmest winter and yet it's only the 2nd time in my lifetime I've seen my 4 acre pond freeze. :rolleyes:
    It's a big planet. Surely it's not difficult to understand that one tiny place may be colder than usual, while the global averages are still rising.
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  • global temperature fluctuation is a dynamic process, which can explain why some places may be experiencing colder winters and some warmer. if you add them collectively, though, we are on a warming trend. that is undeniable according to most scientists.

    here is the thing though. we don't need to deny global warming or try to scare people about it b/c we have an agenda,... or whatever else,...

    we need to change the way we view things. everytime i make a thread about "what have you done to change the world, or what is your bright idea?" i see like three responses. wtf? we need to change,... we don't need global warming scare tactics to tell us that.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    zstillings wrote:
    I'm scared.
    many don't give a rats ass about this...cause if they did..they'd feel guilt about what they do everyday...sooooo denial. Course...they could just go to church and ask forgiveness for driving that Escalade...or living in a 5000 sq ft house and everything would be okay. I'm laughing as I write this Z....
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  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    jlew24asu wrote:
    instead of calling people nut jobs, how about you try and make suggestions to what you feel might help in preventing global warming. if thats even possible

    well lets see i dont own a car i bike to work, i use geothermal heat
    dont own an air conditioner.


    anything else?
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  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    Funny how this was the warmest winter and yet it's only the 2nd time in my lifetime I've seen my 4 acre pond freeze. :rolleyes:


    so your pond froze, apparently your little plot is a barometer for the world


    :rolleyes:
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    NOCODE#1 wrote:
    well lets see i dont own a car i bike to work, i use geothermal heat
    dont own an air conditioner.


    anything else?


    you tell me. you are the one who is trying to bring awareness to this issue by calling people names. maybe you arent capable of anything else
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    know1 wrote:
    You mean - warmest winter since 1880. Explain to me again how 127 years compares to the length of time Earth has been in existence.

    we know the permian extinction was due to global warming. the siberian flats warmed the earth 5 degrees above normal which caused the frozen methane deposits to thaw and release methane into the atmosphere causing an additional 4 to 5 degree rise. thus causing the extinction.

    the statement was that records were started in 1880. ice core samples show it's warmer than previous history but the article was based on records and not scientific estimation.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Funny how this was the warmest winter and yet it's only the 2nd time in my lifetime I've seen my 4 acre pond freeze. :rolleyes:


    well then, we're in the clear....

    keep on polluting, folks....a pond froze somewhere....
  • RockinInCanadaRockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    global temperature fluctuation is a dynamic process, which can explain why some places may be experiencing colder winters and some warmer. if you add them collectively, though, we are on a warming trend. that is undeniable according to most scientists.

    here is the thing though. we don't need to deny global warming or try to scare people about it b/c we have an agenda,... or whatever else,...

    we need to change the way we view things. everytime i make a thread about "what have you done to change the world, or what is your bright idea?" i see like three responses. wtf? we need to change,... we don't need global warming scare tactics to tell us that.


    Like I have said many times before...no matter what side of the politcal fence you lean on the majority of us want a clean environment...what really halts the process in the poltical spin on everything....it just makes the road to suitable recommendations so much more difficult to put in place....for example any government could remove tax (or provide tax rebates) for all high efficiecny (Ener-Star) appliances or for that matter hybrid cars (or ones with good fuel economy) plus alternative means of providing energy to your house (give tax breaks)

    All we have today is politcal postering where one side is hell bent on spelling doom and destruction and the other side concerned not mainly on economics but trying to stick it to the other side by being stubborn because in all honesty cause they hate hearing "global warming" but can rub to "climate change".

    What we need is to come together and think of plausible solutions, both sides bickering should be ashamed of themselves cause all they are doing is contributing to pro-longing any action...lets get together (take the damn fence down for AT LEAST one issue that is important to everyone) and think of good solutions...things need to start by the individual...intiate your own change...the persistant name calling and doom and gloom is useless and once again both sides should be ashamed.....lets get something productive going instead of arguing the same moot points with each other....the whole debate as degraded itself to mud slinging which is evident here, evident on the streets and evident in our governments.....its time for people to make changes instead of waiting for others to do it for them.....
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    its been one of the coldest winters in chicago. I wish it would warm up already.

    You must be new to chicago, welcome to our fine city.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    You must be new to chicago, welcome to our fine city.

    lol actually no, born and raised. this year we had 7 days in a row below zero. first time that has happened in 20 years. also had 2 of the coldest temps in 11 years at -12.

    new to chicago......thats funny.

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  • _Crazy_Mary__Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    NOCODE#1 wrote:
    well lets see i dont own a car i bike to work, i use geothermal heat
    dont own an air conditioner.


    anything else?


    sure, you could purchase carbon offsets. That'll save us all! :)
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • Funny how this was the warmest winter and yet it's only the 2nd time in my lifetime I've seen my 4 acre pond freeze. :rolleyes:


    stop filling it with icecubes...
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