US Defense Spending as % of GDP near historical low
bootlegger10
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Hmmn....US defense spending is about 3% of GDP. Suck on that hippies!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2034rank.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2034rank.html
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Because neither of those places or entities ever report false or erroneous things.
I'm not some conspiracy theory nutjob, but we all know the CIA has lied to us. And the other day, the wikipedia entry for Scientology had a picture of testicles on it (I'm not even kidding either).
Maybe that's why there wasn't enough body armour in Iraq. And it might explain why our guys had to hunt through the junk yards to hillbilly up-armour their HMMWVs over there.
Hail, Hail!!!
sounds accurate to me
Oh you gotta link me up to that. I hope someone got a screenshot saved before it was pulled,
The CIA edits a lot of wiki content. I forgot who that guy was that reverse DNS'd all the wiki edit's and made a searchable database from it. You just reminded me.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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yet the US spends over 50% of its discretionary budget on "defense"
2008 BUDGET (DISCRETIONARY SPENDING)
$481.4 billion (+12.1%) - United States Department of Defense
$145.2 billion (+45.8%) - Global War on Terror
$69.3 billion (+0.3%) - Health and Human Services
$56.0 billion (+0.0%) - United States Department of Education
$39.4 billion (+18.7%) - United States Department of Veterans Affairs
$35.2 billion (+1.4%) - US Department of Housing and Urban Development
$35.0 billion (+22.0%) - State and Other International Programs
$34.3 billion (+7.2%) - Department of Homeland Security
$24.3 billion (+6.6%) - Energy
$20.2 billion (+4.1%) - Administration of justice
$20.2 billion (+3.1%) - Department of Agriculture
$17.3 billion (+6.8%) - National Aeronautics and Space Administration
$12.1 billion (+13.1%) - Department of Transportation
$12.1 billion (+6.1%) - Department of Treasury
$10.6 billion (+2.9%) - United States Department of the Interior
$10.6 billion (-9.4%) - United States Department of Labor
$51.8 billion (+9.7%) - Other On-budget Discretionary Spending
$39.0 billion - Other Off-budget Discretionary Spending
Net interest on debt: $261 billion (+9.2%)
The Iraq war and the Afghanistan war are not part of the defense budget; they are appropriations. WHICH IS QUITE A FEW BILLION DOLLARS...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget%2C_2008
and here is a little more for you to study up on good friend...
For 2007, the budget rose to US$439.3 billion. This does not include many military-related items that are outside of the Defense Department budget, such as nuclear weapons research, maintenance and production (~$9.3 billion, which is in the Department of Energy budget), Veterans Affairs(~$33.2 billion) or the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (which are largely funded through extra-budgetary supplements, ~$170 billion in 2007). Conversely, the military budget does allocate money for dual-use items, such as the development of infrastructure surrounding U.S. military bases. Altogether, military-related expenses totaled approximately $626.1 billion.
APPROX 60% OF DISCRETIONARY SPENDING IN 2007 WENT TO THE MILITARY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States
suck on that, redneck
wake up and smell the nuclear cloud
you were doing great until this. such low class.
you're being lied too...daily...since you were born... it hurts when you figure it out...
i am not running for office or on a date...
and i was just refering back to his "suck this hippies"
and i actually iked the nuclear cloud thing... mushroom cloud is better... AND IT IS THE REALITY... WHATS WRONG WITH POINTING THAT OUT
so, alas, I did not see it, but my source was someone I trust and he was laughing to hard to have it be a lie. hell, for all I know maybe he did it himself.
notice bootlegger shut his trap
thanks my2hands for dose of cold hard facts
You hardly ever see info such as this being publicized in the media. Our spending is outrageous, they wouldn't want the citizenry to know the truth.
Peace
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actually I hear about it everytime a bill is proposed and passed for war spending. 40 billion here 75 billion there. every major news outlet covers it along countless website and blogs. maybe you should pay closer attention.
Wow those numbers are mind-blowing. Just the DoD budget alone is 34 times greater than the entire Canadian Federal Budget for 2007 (includind Debt payments). And yet you population is only about 10 times bigger than ours.
I do pay closer attention, what others do is on them. Most Americans are clueless like the chap that started this thread.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
point is that many americans do pay close attention to our spending. especially the spending we do on these current wars. its shoved in our face every time a bill is passed, and rightfully so.
God knows Bush, Condi, and Cheney, pounded home these very words "mushroom cloud" endlessly (and tirelessly) in justifying their pre-emtive strikes of terror in Iraq.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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The two wars do not count. They are not part of the Defense Budget. The funds for the war are added to the defense budget.
hey mamma how ya been? but yes I realized that after i posted my comment and when hands cleared it up. thats why the number surprised me. heres to hoping this spending is cut as time moves forward
I understood all this before my post.
Please give me %'s of GDP. I don't care about % increases or dollar increases. Even if our military spending was 10% of GDP, then I could at least say that we are at war so it makes sense, and still is only 10%.
Also, the liberals here complained when it was 2000 and we were spending like 3% of GDP without all the big appropriations when we were at war. Which is ridiculous. So, I would expect appropriations to be high during war-time. I think you could make an argument to look at peace time to guage our true military spending habits. 3% ain't bad. Again, it would make sense that spending would be higher in war time.
I enjoyed the redneck comment. I think we need to show our true feelings here, and not sugarcoat things. That is why I use the hippie a lot.
Haha, or I just made the post and left my computer to hang out with friends and haven't looked at the thread until now (more so out of curiousity and less of I want to debate). Sorry, I rarely get into debates on here because I have a life outside this board. I just post something and say "hippies" or "USA! USA! USA!" I enjoy it. I'm rarely right when I post.
Edit: USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!
It surprised you because you probably thought it was like 35% of GDP because that is what some folks want you to believe. The number surprised me too because all here about is how the US spends like 40% of its GDP on the military.
some of us feel as though we are in the belly of the beast that must be stopped... others get out their pom poms and cheer it on, foolishly
my guess would have been around 8-10%. but I hear ya.
that little 3% you keep running with is nice and all... nice small #... nice propaganda trick, not of your own device
that 3% still means that we are currently spending more on the military then all of the rest of the world combined, or very close...
if Bill Gates spends 3% of his income on cocaine, and i spend 3% of my income on cocaine... i think bill gates is doing a LOT more cocaine then i am
in other words... GDP is a flawed way of looking at this type of spending, because GDP is relative to the size of the economy...
compared to our total GDP, our military spending is relatively low. If you look at how much of our federal budget is dedicated to military spending you will see that we spend far to much on our military. Just look at our military spending compared to the rest of the world. Our military spending compromises 49% of the entire planets military spending.
It's funny that you think this a good thing. US citizens are being forced to waste thousands of their dollars per year, and you're pretending it's a good deal by dividing it into a bigger number that has nothing to do with the issue.
I'm doing good. A little tired. Got in late last night from Seattle.
business or pleasure?
or both
All pleasure. My girlfriend had to go on business so I tagged along for the free hotel room.