Accomplishments of the Bush Government

Milhouse VanHouten

Uncle Leo wrote:

I don't agree that they should not have been asked. If he had extramarital affairs with random women, then I'd agree. But since it was an office intern (I know I'd be fired for that)...it is about the kind of office he conducts. Had he just told the truth, he'd have taken some heat--more heat that the relevance dictates--and moved on. Since he lied about a question related to the culture of HIS office and the abuse of HIS power, I think (and I know I am one of the few liberals that thinks this) that he should have been impeached and removed.

I'm questioning the motivation behind asking him in the first place. He definitely shouldn't have lied, the lie was much worse than the actual affair. I just have a hard time that the GOP's main goal with the whole thing was to serve the interests of the American people.

surferdude

Milhouse VanHouten wrote:

I'm questioning the motivation behind asking him in the first place. He definitely shouldn't have lied, the lie was much worse than the actual affair. I just have a hard time that the GOP's main goal with the whole thing was to serve the interests of the American people.

I doubt the GOP were serving the interests of the American people, but neither was Clinton by lieing. It was such a stupid thing for him to do. A basic rule of behavior is if you think you have to lie about doing it then you shouldn't be doing it.

Milhouse VanHouten

surferdude wrote:

I doubt the GOP were serving the interests of the American people, but neither was Clinton by lieing. It was such a stupid thing for him to do. A basic rule of behavior is if you think you have to lie about doing it then you shouldn't be doing it.

If only Clinton's successor would have taken that lesson to heart.

surferdude

Milhouse VanHouten wrote:

If only Clinton's successor would have taken that lesson to heart.

Whole heartedly agree with you.

seagoat2

"Accomplishments"? What accomplishments?

Refusing to sign in Kyoto was NO accomplishment.......

I could go on & on, but I really don't want to get involved in a Pro/Anti discussion about Mr. Bush......cause that's what it always turns into on the board.......

weenie

The Illinoisemakers wrote:

How exactly have minority and women's rights been set back 20 years?

Bush setup our largest nature perserve, 100 miles wide and 1,400 miles long near the Hawaiian Islands. It's larger then 46 of the 50 states.

If you were female, or a minority, you wouldn't have to ask.

If Bush set up a nature preserve, there HAD to be something in it for him. He could care less about the environment or social issues or even human life (oh, unless it involves undeveloped fetuses). His agenda is GREED and keeping his cronies' palms greased. Serious case of Green Disease.

Yeah, you're right, I find him despicable - and I'm not a Democrat.

brain of c

he started an illeagle war with iraq for no reason.

how are gas prices?

oh, nevermind........the oil industry paid for his stolen election.


i think he's doing a bang up job.

thank god he gets so many vacation days.

born on third thinks he hit a triple.......

weenie

BUSH-lager wrote:

1st, you really need to remove the "ban" of stem cell research from your opening list. As someone pointed out, he did nothing of the sort. He simply vetoed public funding for it, which, to be fair, a lot of the country agreed with.

Other than that;

We've gone unattacked since 9/11

Tax cuts have proven to stimulate the economy.

Border security has finally been looked at, albeit marginally. This isn't a huge win for the Bush camp, but at least a Prez finally looked at the issue and did SOMETHING.

Supreme Court Justices. (You can't say this is a failure because YOU don't personally agree with his choice.) Most Americans approved of his final selections, and they both received Senate approval. That is a victory for any President.

Reformed bankrupcy laws.

That's about all I got off the top of my head. Wish Social Security could be added, but in time hopefully. Iraq has bogged this administration down, understandably so.

Oh, and he threw a PERFECT strike at Yankee Stadium in the World Series with everyone chanting U-S-A right after 9/11. Like him or hate him, that was one bad-ass cool moment for a President.

- Dan

I can't believe you're giving Bush credit for no attacks since 9/11. He must have accomplished that while spending so much time on his ranch. As for the rest of your list, how does any of that help me? The economy was stimulated for fat cats and the luxury market where they spend their excess cash. I think the phrase "Bush's accomplishments" is an oxymoron. PUN INTENDED.

The Illinoisemakers

weenie wrote:

If you were female, or a minority, you wouldn't have to ask.

If Bush set up a nature preserve, there HAD to be something in it for him. He could care less about the environment or social issues or even human life (oh, unless it involves undeveloped fetuses). His agenda is GREED and keeping his cronies' palms greased. Serious case of Green Disease.

Yeah, you're right, I find him despicable - and I'm not a Democrat.

Well I'm not a female or minority so I guess I do need to ask. So, what's your answer? Set them back 20 years is pretty big. I'd love to know how. By setting back minorities you must be refering to Bush's guest worker program that would allow illegal immigrants to continue for a certian amount of time, most likely three years, to work in the US. What a setback.

Simply amazing, the President creates the largest natural preserve to date, 100x larger then Yosemite, bigger then 46 of the 50 states, and your only comment is, "there must be something in it for him." Please I'm dying to know what it could be. What a joke.

therover

Uncle Leo wrote:

I notice a couple of people put "no terrorist attack since 9/11." Of course Presidents Washington through Clinton can all say "no terrorist attack."

Not true, Oklahoma City was a terrorist attack. He just happened to be a crazy white guy for here. A lot of things from the Civil War era could be considered terrorist attacks. You don't have to be from another country to be a terrorist.

jam_head

The Illinoisemakers wrote:

Well I'm not a female or minority so I guess I do need to ask. So, what's your answer? Set them back 20 years is pretty big. I'd love to know how. By setting back minorities you must be refering to Bush's guest worker program that would allow illegal immigrants to continue for a certian amount of time, most likely three years, to work in the US. What a setback.

Simply amazing, the President creates the largest natural preserve to date, 100x larger then Yosemite, bigger then 46 of the 50 states, and your only comment is, "there must be something in it for him." Please I'm dying to know what it could be. What a joke.

actually the jokes on you, read any environmental politics books within the past few years and you will see what bush's true agenda is...give up? its greed. anyways nature preserve and bush what an oxymoron if i ever heard one. oh and acutally clinton set alot more environmental areas aside for preserve and once bush got into office he tried opening them up to loggers, you should read up on these things before typing.

bootlegger10

Uncle Leo wrote:

I notice a couple of people put "no terrorist attack since 9/11." Of course Presidents Washington through Clinton can all say "no terrorist attack."

What about the first WTC bombing attack? I guess that wasn't a terrorist attack.

weenie

jam_head wrote:

actually the jokes on you, read any environmental politics books within the past few years and you will see what bush's true agenda is...give up? its greed. anyways nature preserve and bush what an oxymoron if i ever heard one. oh and acutally clinton set alot more environmental areas aside for preserve and once bush got into office he tried opening them up to loggers, you should read up on these things before typing.

Well said jamhead. I've generally found that people who support Bush can do so because they listen ONLY to what supports what they believe. They wouldn't know free thinking or open-mindedness if it jumped up and bit them much less do any extensive reading.

Commy

lies, lies lies........




http://www.bushwatch.net/bushlies.htm

The Illinoisemakers

jam_head wrote:

actually the jokes on you, read any environmental politics books within the past few years and you will see what bush's true agenda is...give up? its greed. anyways nature preserve and bush what an oxymoron if i ever heard one. oh and acutally clinton set alot more environmental areas aside for preserve and once bush got into office he tried opening them up to loggers, you should read up on these things before typing.

Your right I guess the joke is on me. Someone asked what Bush had accomplished while in office and I simply mention that he created the largest natural preserve in our country. Maybe you can open up your books and see that all of Clinton's 11 new national monuments aren't as big as the 140,000 square mile monument Bush put in place. Maybe your books didn't mention that. You should get some new ones and then when you know what your talking about you can get on here and start ridiculing people.

Bu$chlager

weenie wrote:

I can't believe you're giving Bush credit for no attacks since 9/11. He must have accomplished that while spending so much time on his ranch. As for the rest of your list, how does any of that help me? The economy was stimulated for fat cats and the luxury market where they spend their excess cash. I think the phrase "Bush's accomplishments" is an oxymoron. PUN INTENDED.

I'm not sure what the ranch comment is supposed to mean. He's not the only President to take vacations. He's taken the most I beleive, beating Clinton's record, who beat Reagan's record. It's a pretty simple concept; as technology has advanced, the ability for the President to be "in the know" and accomplish tasks away from D.C. has increased. Your comment is rather petty.

I don't get how you don't see how it has helped you. Do you want the man to personally single you out and make your days brighter??

The economy is quite strong, and considering what he inherited, and what he dealt with domestically 9 months into office, I think he's due a fair amount of credit. Put your Kool-Aid down for a minute and enter reality.

- Dan

Bu$chlager

Commy wrote:

lies, lies lies........




http://www.bushwatch.net/bushlies.htm

Cute. Amusing. Entertaining to a point.

Back to reality...

Bu$chlager

Uncle Leo wrote:

I notice a couple of people put "no terrorist attack since 9/11." Of course Presidents Washington through Clinton can all say "no terrorist attack."

It is laughable that you mention Clinton in a sentence which gives praise to President's lack of domestic terrorism attacks.

What do you think Al Quaeda was doing for those 8 years? Hmmmm?

- Dan

Commy

BUSH-lager wrote:

Cute. Amusing. Entertaining to a point.

Back to reality...

care to enlighten us all with you're clear picture of reality? What has W done that's worth mentioneing...positives...please, enlighten.

SundaySilence

BUSH-lager wrote:

It is laughable that you mention Clinton in a sentence which gives praise to President's lack of domestic terrorism attacks.

What do you think Al Quaeda was doing for those 8 years? Hmmmm?

- Dan

During those eight years the republicans spent/stole $40 million taxpayer dollars investigating Clinton's private life. Then they screamed no war for Monica when Clinton was bombing Bin Laden's training camps in Afghanistan. During those eight years Clinton was stopping the Millenium attacks.

From (registered republican) Richard Clarke on CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/25/clarke.lkl/

"In an interview Wednesday on CNN's "Larry King Live," Clarke said that "we'll never know" if the 9/11 terrorist attacks were preventable.

But he said the Clinton administration's approach to a similar threat before the turn of the millennium -- in which top officials held daily interagency meetings and actively sought out information from within their agencies -- shows that a similar approach might have worked.

He said that people within the FBI knew that two of the 19 hijackers were in the country before September 11, but that information never made its way up the chain of command.

"If Condi Rice had been doing her job and holding those daily meetings the way Sandy Berger did, if she had a hands-on attitude to being national security adviser when she had information that there was a threat against the United States ... [the information] would have been shaken out in the summer of 2001," he told King.

Samuel Berger was former President Clinton's national security adviser."