Abu Ghraib prisoners: "We preferred the Americans"
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These people in charge of the prison now... are the ones WE put into power to replace Saddam Hussein. The prison guards are the 'poor Iraqis' that were being 'gassed by Hussein'. Is it pay back... or a case of, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"?
Hail, Hail!!!
Also keep in mind that just because other countries treat their prisoners worse doesn't make our horrible treatment justifiable.
BTW if anyone saw Ted Koppel's program on the discovery channel last night he absolutely NAILED the military on this stuff.
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
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Exactly. No, it's not surprising that they would prefer to be totured by American's than by someone who has turned it into an art form. Two reasons:
1. The american public is more likely to react upon finding out about mistreatment and have something done about it.
2. The american's are not as brutal and efficient.
Since they preferred us, that made it okay to act in such a way? No. If you were being totured by someone who would cut you once every hour and then totured by someone who cut you, poured salt in the wounds and did it every thirty minutes you would say you'd prefer the first captor. Does this mean that the first captor should be able to continue his more humane toture methods? No. America has always said it leads by example. Unfortunately, this is not happening.
Exactly. No, it's not surprising that they would prefer to be tortured by American's than by someone who has turned it into an art form. Two reasons:
1. The american public is more likely to react upon finding out about mistreatment and have something done about it.
2. The american's are not as brutal and efficient.
Since they preferred us, that made it okay to act in such a way? No. If you were being tortured by someone who would cut you once every hour and then tortured by someone who cut you, poured salt in the wounds and did it every thirty minutes you would say you'd prefer the first captor. Does this mean that the first captor should be able to continue his more humane torture methods? No. America has always said it leads by example. Unfortunately, this is not happening. Also, it’s quite disgusting that some people are going to use this to defend the abuse and say that it wasn’t such a bad thing. Anyone who stands on this narrow ledge of idiocy deserves to be pushed off into the pit of shame that lies beneath.
Thank you...
... and America SHOULD lead by example, not follow in the footsteps of the Gulags of the former Soviet Union.
Hail, Hail!!!
Agreed, and no one in this thread was attempting to justify American abuses, so its all good. At least, I wasn't.
I know... the whole thing is kinda silly. Like if I robbed the 7-11 and pistol whipped the little Pakistani woman behind the counter and took the $57.84... I'm not such a bad guy because the next guy who robbed the same 7-11, pistol whipped and shot her in both of her knees and stole $64.36... AND a carton of Marlboros.
Some how... I'm still not a good guy.
Hail, Hail!!!
Hey now! A little credit please, when sufficiently riled, democracies can unleash the most horrifying responses.
"I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve." -- Admirial Yamamoto
As America reaches for the snooze button....
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If you kill someone, you shouldn't be entitled to the same rights that you denied that person. Sorry. that's why prison is no longer a deterrant in this country.
No televsison, no outside communication, no weight rooms, no free education. If you go to prson, you should be erased until you've paid your debt to society. Save all of that touchy feely bullshit for people who actually do their time. Use the last 6 months of a sentence to re-socialize a prisoner. That's all it would take.
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And no prison isn't supposed to be a nice place, but it should be a rehabilitation center-as opposed to the segrated nightmare that US prisons are now, more of a school for inmates on how to be more efficient criminals.
Again crime has been on the downtrend since the 1980's...rehabilitation does nto work. Certain people can not be rehabilitated...child molesters=death.
Dependes on your definition of crime I suppose. War crimes have sure increased, especially among the US gov't.
Though child molesters are a unique case, that's for sure. Castration comes to mind...though I'd hate to give the State any more power.
Theyve increased amongst muslims too...
look at it from a neutral stance for a sec...
The United States has armies on arab soil, and has for many years prior to 9/11, the one time arabs significantly did any damage on US soil.
Yet the US has caused many 9/11's, not just in Iraq but throughout the arab world.
The U.S was asked to protect Kuwait from Saddam by other Arab countries. The U.S has tried to turn backwards afghanistan into a democracy...what would be better for the world. a pro-taliban government or a U.S government? Ill take our style any day.
You need to stop looking at it from your liberal bias for a sec