ABC News: Pages ‘Sending All Sorts of Messages About Possible Other Members’

DPrival78

looks like there's a chance we may be hearing more about congressman and pages.

such wonderful people we have running our country. liars, murderers, torturers, pedophiles.. what a fine upstanding bunch.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/02/pages-ross/

jlew24asu

thats why I'm so confused on why you want to be an american? its kinda why I dont live in Iran. I hate the government and the people running it.

ledvedderman

jlew24asu wrote:

thats why I'm so confused on why you want to be an american? its kinda why I dont live in Iran. I hate the government and the people running it.

You're not ashamed of this story? Also, the reason you don't live in Iran is because you live in Chicago. It has nothing to do with hating the government of Iran and the people running it.

jlew24asu

ledvedderman wrote:

You're not ashamed of this story? Also, the reason you don't live in Iran is because you live in Chicago. It has nothing to do with hating the government of Iran and the people running it.

your right, the story is disgusting and anyone involved should be jailed. that we agree on.

ledvedderman

jlew24asu wrote:

your right, the story is disgusting and anyone involved should be jailed. that we agree on.

So why attack the original poster for his comment of, "such wonderful people we have running our country. liars, murderers, torturers, pedophiles.. what a fine upstanding bunch". He didn't take a side, he didn't put down America at all. Yet you, once again, pull out your magic "thats why I'm so confused on why you want to be an american?" card.

By saying that you think the leaders of this country who commit crimes "should be jailed", shouldn't we then ask why you want to live here?

macgyver06

when it is time to cleanse this government..there will be no better place to be in the world.... AGAIN.

know1

Surely these messages (Foley's or whomevers) weren't a very big secret.

In my mind, it begs the question of whether people knew of this but timed the announcement in order to do the most damage to the election.....which means those people who knew were putting these teens at risk for political gain.

ledvedderman

know1 wrote:

Surely these messages (Foley's or whomevers) weren't a very big secret.

In my mind, it begs the question of whether people knew of this but timed the announcement in order to do the most damage to the election.....which means those people who knew were putting these teens at risk for political gain.

Didn't Foley come out and resign before any press had caught onto the story?

DPrival78

know1 wrote:

Surely these messages (Foley's or whomevers) weren't a very big secret.

In my mind, it begs the question of whether people knew of this but timed the announcement in order to do the most damage to the election.....which means those people who knew were putting these teens at risk for political gain.

that's why hastert and others are in hot water also. it seems like people knew about this, but were sitting on it.. perhaps until after the elections? who knows. i'm just completely disgusted with our "leadership" in this country. on both sides of the aisle.

Milhouse VanHouten

know1 wrote:

Surely these messages (Foley's or whomevers) weren't a very big secret.

In my mind, it begs the question of whether people knew of this but timed the announcement in order to do the most damage to the election.....which means those people who knew were putting these teens at risk for political gain.

Democrats knew nothing about it, according to most accounts. Hastert needed three days to remember that he talked to Reynolds. Shimkus, head of the Page Board, didn't feel the need to inform the Democrats on the board of the emails. It doesn't appear that the Republicans who were aware of the problem made any real effort to investigate. Shimkus instructed Foley to cease communications with the page. Foley assured Shimkus that there were no other emails/IMs, and Shimkus was apparently satisfied with that answer. Seems like a pretty big effort to keep it in-house and to find out as little as possible.

jlew24asu

ledvedderman wrote:

So why attack the original poster for his comment of, "such wonderful people we have running our country. liars, murderers, torturers, pedophiles.. what a fine upstanding bunch". He didn't take a side, he didn't put down America at all. Yet you, once again, pull out your magic "thats why I'm so confused on why you want to be an american?" card.

By saying that you think the leaders of this country who commit crimes "should be jailed", shouldn't we then ask why you want to live here?

I wasnt attacking his one comment. he happens to make post upon post of how evil our government is. for this example, I agree. I happen to, however, trust many of the people in our government. the one sicko, foley, is already gone. had he not resigned and subsequently not fired, or our country allowed pedophiles, or condoned such people in power, I might consider leaving.

NakedClown

know1 wrote:

Surely these messages (Foley's or whomevers) weren't a very big secret.

In my mind, it begs the question of whether people knew of this but timed the announcement in order to do the most damage to the election.....which means those people who knew were putting these teens at risk for political gain.

Looks like a lot more of your republican heroes knew long before anyone else, chief...

ledvedderman

Milhouse VanHouten wrote:

Democrats knew nothing about it, according to most accounts. Hastert needed three days to remember that he talked to Reynolds. Shimkus, head of the Page Board, didn't feel the need to inform the Democrats on the board of the emails. It doesn't appear that the Republicans who were aware of the problem made any real effort to investigate. Shimkus instructed Foley to cease communications with the page. Foley assured Shimkus that there were no other emails/IMs, and Shimkus was apparently satisfied with that answer. Seems like a pretty big effort to keep it in-house and to find out as little as possible.

Shimkus is a fucking twat anyway, I can't stand that man. I hope that in 2 years that area of Illinois gets split up (I mean seriously, look at the 17th), and Costello and Shimkus have to run against one another. Jerry would kick his ass.

WMA

I was under the impression that it was the page's family that leaked it to the press.

I suppose they can create these conspiracy theories, but it doesn't explain why nothing was done about it by those notified. When someone does something that bad and you are caught covering it up... it is pretty tasteless to call it politics as usual IMO.

Edit: grammar, lol.

robbie

look, if it was a teacher writing e-mails to a student asking for a picture and complementing other students bodies, saying what great shape they were in, and the principal and other teachers all knew about it, and thought enough about it to tell the teacher to stay away from a student, but decided to hide it from the authorities and do nothing about it, that principal and other teachers should and WOULD be fired for puting their reputation above the safety of the students. that is EXACTLY waht happened here. these paiges are sent to congress as a school, they are left in the custody of the congress. when those who are intrused with that custody choose to attempt to molest the kids, and cover up that attempted molestation, they should ALL be shitcanned. i know i posted in another thread that i am MORE offened by congress selling out their votes than what they di in their personal lives, but to cover up what happened and endanger children in order to not loose a seat is perverted. That fat fucking pervert Hastert had the responsibility to handle this, but he chose to jack off to the e-mails instead of investigate them, they hisd this from the authorities, and they his it from the democrats. how many children are being raped by congressmen? we wouldnt know would we? we have no idea what else they are hiding. for the President of the United states to come out and support Hastert is perverted as well. WHERE ARE ALL YOU CHRISTIANS NOW? isnt it disturbing to you that your leaders support covering this up? is that what you are about? is that what the world should know about your faith, that you will support the covering up off attempted child molestation for political gain??? where is your family value outrage now?????? i dont know if this is a CRIMINAL offence, but it does PROVE that the speaker of the house and the president of the united states are sicko fucking perverts who SUPPORT child molestation as long as nobody finds out about it. fuck you HASTERT fuck you GEORGE BUSH. fucking pervert child molester abeding turds. now that torture is an acceptable way of american life, i think i have a few candidates for water boarding. that fat piece of shit hastert and that fucking pervo bush should be hooded stacked naked in piramids, have electrodes clipped to their flacid dicks, and their heads dunked in a filthy toilet until they give up the info on what other children are being preyd upon by their friends.

know1

NakedClown wrote:

Looks like a lot more of your republican heroes knew long before anyone else, chief...

I ain't no Democrat...

...ain't no Republican either...

IWishIWasASailor

Mental midgets run amok on this forum.

Leaders of this country are a reflection of human beings as a whole. We all suck. You and I.

inmytree

IWishIWasASailor wrote:

Mental midgets run amok on this forum.

thanks for joining us...

do you want be leader or something..?

Taft

This is really going to piss off the hard right:

Breaking News-Former Rep. Mark Foley was molested as a teenager between the ages of 13 and 15 by a clergyman, his lawyer says.

Ahnimus

DPrival78 wrote:

looks like there's a chance we may be hearing more about congressman and pages.

such wonderful people we have running our country. liars, murderers, torturers, pedophiles.. what a fine upstanding bunch.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/02/pages-ross/

See that's why I'm proud to be Canadian, so far we don't have any pedophiles in government. Not that we know of anyway.

I won't deny that we have liars, murderers and torturers though.

trappedinmyradio

DPrival78 wrote:

looks like there's a chance we may be hearing more about congressman and pages.

such wonderful people we have running our country. liars, murderers, torturers, pedophiles.. what a fine upstanding bunch.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/02/pages-ross/

you have to remember that people believed to be a certain way are, nonetheless, victims of statistics...the one thing you can never hide from.