Government Targets American Bloggers As Enemy Propagandists
DPrival78
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http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/171006enemypropagandists.htm
this country is a fascist dictatorship.
this country is a fascist dictatorship.
i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
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on a side note. I think people might be on to me
"CENTCOM is infiltrating blogs and message boards to ensure people, "have the opportunity to read positive stories,"presumably about how Iraq is a wonderful liberated democracy and the war on terror really is about protecting Americans."
Boy oh boy, does that ever go a long way towards explaining some of the threads around here!
I thought that was you;)
i knew it.. you're one of "them" aren't you..
but seriously now.. how can you, as an alleged freedom loving american, support the fascist policies of our government? dissent is equated with terrorism. habeas corpus.. adios. these are things i would expect from nazi germany, the ussr or china. but its happening here. right now. and you support it all?
your getting a little too excited over things like this. the governement is just snooping around the net looking at blogs and message boards. maybe they find a chat room of a bunch of morons plotting to blow something up. great. I dont feel threatened by the government. I still feel free. not that big of a deal to me.
Kat and Sea call the shots around here.
I think there is a good reason to get excited about habeas corpus being thrown out the window...
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
much ado about nothing
If that were true, you would be imprisoned along with your friends at PrisonPlanet. The very fact that this article was posted, read and then reposted here disproves your very poor argument.
yea, its no big deal.. its only a right that people have had for about a thousand years.. we were due for a change.
the whole "freedom" thing was getting played out anyway..
as long as we're allowed to play our x-boxes and watch american idol, thats all that matters
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/171006enemypropagandists.htm
In section 950j. the bill criminalizes any challenge to the legislation's legality by the Supreme Court or any United States court. Alberto Gonzales has already threatened federal judges to shut up and not question Bush's authority on the torture of detainees.
"No court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider any claim or cause of action whatsoever, including any action pending on or filed after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, relating to the prosecution, trial, or judgment of a military commission under this chapter, including challenges to the lawfulness of procedures of military commissions under this chapter."
The Bush administration is preemptively overriding any challenge to the legislation by the Supreme Court.
again, you are getting way too excited over this. I'm still as free as I was the day I was born.
O expect maybe I might be being watched if I claim my alliance to el queda.
What right?
That explains why you seem to be advocating lessening freedoms.
:rolleyes:
the right to face your accusers in court. add to that, the right not to be tortured while you're being indefinitely detained
i was being sarcastic
I thought this was about the government snoopy around on message baords.
Sec. 948a. Definitions
`In this chapter:
`(1) UNLAWFUL ENEMY COMBATANT- (A) The term `unlawful enemy combatant' means--
`(i) a person who has engaged in hostilities or who has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States or its co-belligerents who is not a lawful enemy combatant (including a person who is part of the Taliban, al Qaeda, or associated forces); or
`(ii) a person who, before, on, or after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another competent tribunal established under the authority of the President or the Secretary of Defense.
`Sec. 948c. Persons subject to military commissions
`Any alien unlawful enemy combatant is subject to trial by military commission under this chapter.
`Sec. 949s. Cruel or unusual punishments prohibited
`Punishment by flogging, or by branding, marking, or tattooing on the body, or any other cruel or unusual punishment, may not be adjudged by a military commission under this chapter or inflicted under this chapter upon any person subject to this chapter. The use of irons, single or double, except for the purpose of safe custody, is prohibited under this chapter.
`Sec. 949t. Maximum limits
`The punishment which a military commission under this chapter may direct for an offense may not exceed such limits as the President or Secretary of Defense may prescribe for that offense.
`Sec. 950j. Finality or proceedings, findings, and sentences
`(a) Finality- The appellate review of records of trial provided by this chapter, and the proceedings, findings, and sentences of military commissions as approved, reviewed, or affirmed as required by this chapter, are final and conclusive. Orders publishing the proceedings of military commissions under this chapter are binding upon all departments, courts, agencies, and officers of the United States, except as otherwise provided by the President.
`(b) Provisions of Chapter Sole Basis for Review of Military Commission Procedures and Actions- Except as otherwise provided in this chapter and notwithstanding any other provision of law (including section 2241 of title 28 or any other habeas corpus provision), no court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider any claim or cause of action whatsoever, including any action pending on or filed after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, relating to the prosecution, trial, or judgment of a military commission under this chapter, including challenges to the lawfulness of procedures of military commissions under this chapter.
~Ron Burgundy
Hail, Hail!!!
Two things about it that are scary -- the first part of the definition of an enemy combatant includes anyone who "has purposefully and materially provided support" to terrorists. Given that Quakers and anti-war activists have turned up on lists of suspected terrorists, I'm worried about how the government will interpret "material support."
The second scary thing is that the second section seems to have no standards at all -- just anyone designated as an enemy combatant by the Secretary of Defense or the President.
I guess I don't really think that my contributions to MoveOn.Org are going to land me in Gitmo. But it presses on my conscience as an American that we are giving him the President these kinds of powers to put people away. Really, do we only care about things that affect us directly?
doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
Hope! Hope is the underdog!"
-- EV, Live at the Showbox
helloooo dictatorship
`(a) In General- (1) No authority convening a military commission under this chapter may censure, reprimand, or admonish the military commission, or any member, military judge, or counsel thereof, with respect to the findings or sentence adjudged by the military commission, or with respect to any other exercises of its or his functions in the conduct of the proceedings.
`(2) No person may attempt to coerce or, by any unauthorized means, influence--
`(A) the action of a military commission under this chapter, or any member thereof, in reaching the findings or sentence in any case;
`(B) the action of any convening, approving, or reviewing authority with respect to his judicial acts; or
`(C) the exercise of professional judgment by trial counsel or defense counsel.
`(3) Paragraphs (1) and (2) do not apply with respect to--
`(A) general instructional or informational courses in military justice if such courses are designed solely for the purpose of instructing members of a command in the substantive and procedural aspects of military commissions; or
`(B) statements and instructions given in open proceedings by a military judge or counsel.
`(b) Prohibition on Consideration of Actions on Commission in Evaluation of Fitness- In the preparation of an effectiveness, fitness, or efficiency report or any other report or document used in whole or in part for the purpose of determining whether a commissioned officer of the armed forces is qualified to be advanced in grade, or in determining the assignment or transfer of any such officer or whether any such officer should be retained on active duty, no person may--
`(1) consider or evaluate the performance of duty of any member of a military commission under this chapter; or
`(2) give a less favorable rating or evaluation to any commissioned officer because of the zeal with which such officer, in acting as counsel, represented any accused before a military commission under this chapter.
~Ron Burgundy
the American government is totalitarian in a completely different sense. unlike Hitler, for example, our government will never crack down on dissenters. it will torture suspected terrorists, mostly foreigners, but it will never go after american dissenters. instead, they will highlight the craziest amongst the dissenters in order to marginalize all dissenters. furthermore, most citizens are too distracted by entertainment to care about what really goes on. and the large number of those who do care (like myself) will feel like its basically hopeless to ever change things.
calling America "fascist" sounds stupid... because it is stupid.
Alex Jones is clearly not sane. he may be right about some things, but he's waaaaaaaaaaaaay over dramatic. if he's the leader of the fight against the increasingly powerful global elite, then we're fucked from the start... which is why Alex Jones will never be shut down by the elite. shit, he may even be one of them (pure speculation).