Sharia in Britain

yoke

Sharia Law really? What is going on over there with your courts? I don't understand, how can a country expect this to not get out of hand and start to spread into other issues? You guys just opened up a giant can of worms.

Can someone from your side of the pond explain this to me please. I know that you didn't have a personal say in it but I am curious as to what the reactions are.


http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=0AD15F94-02CF-4383-B304-A9BF289B770C

fuck

just another bullshit anti-Muslim propaganda scare tactic.

yoke

_outlaw wrote:

just another bullshit anti-Muslim propaganda scare tactic.

really? so this didn't happen? Sharia law is not going to be allowed to rule in cases from divorce and even domestic violence?

fuck

yoke wrote:

really? so this didn't happen? Sharia law is not going to be allowed to rule in cases from divorce and even domestic violence?

The author of the article, Phyllis Chesler, is an incredibly racist and unintelligent person, and deserves not to be taken seriously.

IndianSummer

http://www.derafsh-kaviyani.com/english/

yoke

_outlaw wrote:

The author of the article, Phyllis Chesler, is an incredibly racist and unintelligent person, and deserves not to be taken seriously.

She may very well be, I don't know anything about her. But does it change the fact that it is happening, at least according to other articles I have read.


http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/2008/09/sharia-courts-and-domestic-law.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/mysun/article1690863.ece

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/news-feed/2008/09/15/sharia-law-fears-86908-20737484/

http://www.thelondondailynews.com/sharia-alive-well-p-1295.html

fuck

yoke wrote:

She may very well be, I don't know anything about her. But does it change the fact that it is happening, at least according to other articles I have read.


http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/2008/09/sharia-courts-and-domestic-law.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/mysun/article1690863.ece

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/news-feed/2008/09/15/sharia-law-fears-86908-20737484/

http://www.thelondondailynews.com/sharia-alive-well-p-1295.html

articles from more anti-Muslim propaganda bullshit. the NY sun?! you fucking kidding? and the picture the london daily news shows is "behead those who hate Islam" or whatever, more scare tactics to spread hate towards Islam.

fucking pathetic.

yoke

_outlaw wrote:

articles from more anti-Muslim propaganda bullshit. the NY sun?! you fucking kidding? and the picture the london daily news shows is "behead those who hate Islam" or whatever, more scare tactics to spread hate towards Islam.

fucking pathetic.

Okay so what you are saying is that is isn't happening? My whole point to this is how can England effectively govern when they have different rules for different people or different communites. I know that the Jewish community has the Beth Din in London and they handle certain civil disputes under English Law. How can this be allowed to happen?

Here are some more articles:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/arti ... article.do

http://www.spectator.co.uk/stephenpollard/2085356/two-laws-for-all.thtml

http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/110382.html

http://www.eursoc.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/2585/UK_Sharia__Vital_And_Inevitable_.html

http://www.publicservice.co.uk/news_story.asp?id=7068

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194085.php

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/09/15/muslim-community-uses-own-tribunals/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/lawreports/joshuarozenberg/2957692/What-can-sharia-courts-do-in-Britain.html

London Calling

sharia law would be used as an arbitration between two disputing Muslims and both agree previously to settle it in a sharia law court not a British one, i don't see a problem with that.

dunkman

London Calling wrote:

sharia law would be used as an arbitration between two disputing Muslims and both agree previously to settle it in a sharia law court not a British one, i don't see a problem with that.

agreed.

Scottish law is very different from English & Welsh law also.


*watches as many americans get totally confused by above sentence*

darkcrow

The Jewish community has used their own forms of arbitration in the UK for years. Stop reading bollocks

chime

yoke wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/lawreports/joshuarozenberg/2957692/What-can-sharia-courts-do-in-Britain.html

I think this article pretty much covers it. As others have said it's a form of arbitration. Civil matters can go to arbitration instead of court already ... this is just another form of arbitration that the parties can AGREE to use ... and the arbitration panel has to include a qualified lawyer.

I don't see the problem. The laws of this country will always be above Sharia law.

yoke

darkcrow wrote:

The Jewish community has used their own forms of arbitration in the UK for years. Stop reading bollocks

I know, and I stated that. I was just curious as to how the gov operates when they have different laws or procedures for different communites. That was the main point of all this. I just think that it can really get out of hand and that it can lead to bigger problems. Groups wanting more power etc..

darkcrow

yoke wrote:

I know, and I stated that. I was just curious as to how the gov operates when they have different laws or procedures for different communites. That was the main point of all this. I just think that it can really get out of hand and that it can lead to bigger problems. Groups wanting more power etc..

these things are not part of the legal system. These aer just forms of recociliation/arbitration. Much like how unions and companies sometimes go to independent third parties to help sort out disputes.

Collin

Why not? It sounds reasonable. I don't see a problem with it. If you're afraid of people wanting more power then everything is a potential problem, isn't it?

Dunk, what the fuck are you talking about? You live in England! Stop confusing us!

yoke

darkcrow wrote:

these things are not part of the legal system. These aer just forms of recociliation/arbitration. Much like how unions and companies sometimes go to independent third parties to help sort out disputes.

Thanks..that is what I figured. When I started this thread I was looking for some insight from people who actually live there and can me tell what everything I was reading really meant. I don't know the first thing about the English judicial system so it doesn't make any sense to me. Hell I don't understand my own at times either.

NMyTree

_outlaw wrote:

just another bullshit anti-Muslim propaganda scare tactic.

Wrong. It is a problem. The concept and action of "Honor Killing " was not created by ant-Islamics. It was created by...Islam and it's Muslim followers.

But the Brits have been taking steps..........


http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/20080808/882/twl-new-sharia-marriage-law-gives-uk-mus.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfCum5I-whg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAyQUJeNJFw

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-06-11-honorkilling_N.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFsrMOHC1-0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ0XHZhlpBc&feature=related

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-461378/The-tragic-story-Banaz-Mahmod--fell-love-19-family-killed-her.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/11/iraq.humanrights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VfuPi7dl4Q


Right here in the United States.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujqmv-VPN6I&feature=related



And just so we don't forget that Islam has just as many lunatics as Christianity............

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3974179.stm