Obama the Anti-Christ

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edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
I understand there are many who dont want Obama as president but are people really this desperate/idiotic ???

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http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1830590,00.html?cnn=yes

It's not easy to make the infamous Willie Horton ad from the 1988 presidential campaign seem benign. But suggesting that Barack Obama is the Antichrist might just do it.

That's just what some outraged Christian supporters of the Democratic nominee are claiming John McCain's campaign did in an ad called "The One" that was recently released online. The Republican nominee's advisers brush off the charges, arguing that the spot was meant to be a "creative" and "humorous" way of poking fun at Obama's popularity by painting him as a self-appointed messiah. But even this innocuous interpretation of the ad — which includes images of Charlton Heston as Moses and culled clips that make Obama sound truly egomaniacal — taps into a conversation that has been gaining urgency on Christian radio, political blogs, and in widely-circulated email messages that accuse Obama of being the Antichrist.

The ad was the creation of Fred Davis, one of McCain's top media gurus, as well as a close friend of former Christian Coalition head Ralph Reed and the nephew of conservative Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe. It first caught the attention of Democrats familiar with the Left Behind series, a fictionalized account of the end time that debuted in the 1990s and has sold nearly 70 million books worldwide. "The language in there is so similar to the language in the Left Behind books," says Tony Campolo, a leading progressive evangelical speaker and author.

As the ad begins, the words "It should be known that in 2008 the world shall be blessed. They will call him The One" flash across the screen. The Antichrist of the Left Behind books is a charismatic young political leader named Nicolae Carpathia who founds The One World religion (slogan: "We are God") and promises to heal the world after a time of deep division. One of several Obama clips in the ad features the senator saying, "A nation healed, a world repaired. We are the ones that we've been waiting for."

The visual images in the ad, which Davis says has been viewed even more than the McCain's "Celeb" ad linking Obama to the likes of Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, also seem to evoke the cover art of several Left Behind books. But they're not the cartoonish images of clouds parting and shining light upon Obama that might be expected in an ad spoofing him as a messiah. Instead, the screen displays a sinister orange light surrounded by darkness and later the faint image of a staircase leading up to heaven.

Perhaps the most puzzling scene in the ad is an altered segment from The 10 Commandments that appears near the end. A Moses-playing Charlton Heston parts the animated waters of the Red Sea, out of which rises the quasi-presidential seal the Obama campaign used for a brief time earlier this summer before being mocked into retiring it. The seal, which features an eagle with wings spread, is not recognizable like the campaign's red-white-and-blue "O" logo. That confused Democratic consultant Eric Sapp until he went to his Bible and remembered that in the apocalyptic Book of Daniel, the Antichrist is described as rising from the sea as a creature with wings like an eagle.

Sapp knows that the phrasing and images could just be dismissed as a peculiar coincidence. After all, it was Oprah Winfrey who told an Iowa crowd that Obama was "the one!" But, he insists, "the frequency of these images and references don't make any sense unless you're trying to send the message that Obama could be the Antichrist." Mara Vanderslice, another Democratic consultant who handled religious outreach for the 2004 Kerry campaign, agrees. "If they wanted to be funny, if they really wanted to play up the idea that Obama thinks he's the Second Coming, there were better ways to do it," she says. "Why use these awkward lines like, 'And the world will receive his blessings'?"

Two months ago, Vanderslice founded a Democratic PAC called the Matthew 25 Network and soon noticed that the negative emails she received from conservative Christians fell into two general categories: abortion, and the assertion that Obama is the Antichrist. The cataloguing of similarities Obama shares with the Antichrist began nearly two years ago. But they picked up steam in February 2008 after he racked up a string of impressive primary victories. A Google search for "Obama" and "Antichrist" turns up more than 700,000 hits, including at least one blog dedicated solely to the topic. A more obscure search for "Obama" and "Nicolae Carpathia" yields a surprising 200,000 references.

It's not hard to see how some Obama-haters might be tempted to make the comparison. In the Left Behind books, Carpathia is a junior senator who speaks several languages, is beloved by people around the world and fawned over by a press corps that cannot see his evil nature, and rises to absurd prominence after delivering just one major speech. Hmmh. But serious Antichrist theorists don't stop there. Everything from Obama's left-handedness to his positive rhetoric to his appearance on the cover of this magazine has been cited as evidence of his true identity. One chain email claims that the Antichrist was prophesied to be "A man in his 40s of MUSLIM descent," which would indeed sound ominous if not for the fact that the Book of Revelation was written at least 400 years before the birth of Islam.

The speculation reached a fever pitch after Obama's European trip and the Berlin speech in which he called for global unity. Conservative Christian author Hal Lindsey declared in an essay on World Net Daily, "Obama is correct in saying that the world is ready for someone like him-a messiah-like figure, charismatic and glib...The Bible calls that leader the Antichrist. And it seems apparent that the world is now ready to make his acquaintance." The conservative website RedState.com now sells mugs and t-shirts that sport a large "O" with horns and the words "The Anti-Christ" underneath.

Even if a fraction of the Internet-using public engages in outrageous Antichrist speculation, feeding those extreme beliefs wouldn't seem to be an obvious political strategy. But McCain advisers are aware that one of the goals of Democratic outreach to evangelicals has been to simply neutralize their opposition. "You just have to take the edge off," says Michigan Democratic Party chair Mark Brewer, explaining why he spent much of a 2006 meeting with conservative pastors around his state. "Now that they've met me, they can see I don't have two horns and a tail."

A new TIME poll finds that the most conservative evangelicals are the least enthusiastic about McCain's candidacy. Convincing them that Obama does have two horns and a tail might be the best way of getting them to vote. That's what worries Campolo, who also sits on the Democratic party's platform committee. "Those books have created a subliminal language and I think judgments will be made unconsciously about Barack Obama," he says. "It scares the daylights out of me."
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  • Any assertion that he is the anti-christ is completely ridiculous.
    Drifting away..........
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    It's not very often the overly religious are rational.

    Keep that in mind.

    It's not very often loyal and fanatical party members are rational.

    Keep that in mind, also.


    Combine both into one individual, then, gather several thousands upon thousands of the same type of individuals and you have yourself a cluster-fuck of the irrational.
  • JulienJulien Posts: 2,457
    Any assertion that he is the anti-christ is completely ridiculous.
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  • hailhailkchailhailkc Posts: 582
    Ahhh...our old friend the Anti-Christ. And here I've thought all along that the Anti-Christ was that new Mama Mia movie...

    I do believe we will see the Anti-Christ one day...but I don't think it is, or will be, Obama.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    My grandparents will believe anything they read on the Internet.

    As such, they believe Obama to be a radical Muslim black panther with terrorist ties who wants to steal their social security checks and use the money to murder unborn babies.

    But even they aren't buying this "anti-Christ" stuff.

    This goes way beyond "overly religious" or "overly loyal to one's political party." It's just nutso.

    I mean, we haven't even been given the mark of the beast yet. Unless the "mark of the beast" is those tramp stamps every sorority girl born after 1982 has.

    If so ... oh shit.
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    NMyTree wrote:
    It's not very often the overly religious are rational. ...


    It's not very often loyal and fanatical party members are rational.

    ...
    Combine both into one individual, then, gather several thousands upon thousands of the same type of individuals and you have yourself a cluster-fuck of the irrational.
    This is the thing!!!

    Reality is NOT rational!!! We're all living in this deluded perspective when we look through reason for understanding! Therefore, symbols like Christ or anti-Christ, we see them in a warped way and don't really understand them at all! They are "mystified"...shrouded in illusion when looked at through logic. We think anti-christ is some polarized "bad" thing.

    The real reality is understood through a blend of emotion, intuition and reason. As long as we're looking at ration or reason as providing the epitome of understanding, we're missing reality!!

    Which is not to say Obama is the anti-Christ! He does spook me, though!
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    The anti-christ is the invisible head of the Roman Catholic church. Not Barack.
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Keep in mind, this is the summer doldrums, while McCain tries to build his case (not to mention, his base).

    To the left, McCain appears desperate. Hence, the ad.

    To the right, Obama is a "smug", "arrogant" being who attracts thousands more than McCain could ever hope to attract.

    Either way, all it does is make McCain look silly.

    This is the summer doldrums. Just wait until the conventions, and then the debates.

    The rest -- pure, unadulterated silliness.
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  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    Hmmm...Wouldn't Bush be the antichrist? He's the one who "talks to god". He talks of peace but wages war. He's caused misery upon the populace. "We aren't in a recession." Bush still has 6 (666) months left in office. He can still do more damage to the country(and the world).

    Obama is saying we have to fix this.
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  • binger wrote:
    Hmmm...Wouldn't Bush be the antichrist? He's the one who "talks to god". He talks of peace but wages war. He's caused misery upon the populace. "We aren't in a recession." Bush still has 6 (666) months left in office. He can still do more damage to the country(and the world).

    Obama is saying we have to fix this.

    Its opposite day don't you know?
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    angelica wrote:
    This is the thing!!!

    Reality is NOT rational!!! We're all living in this deluded perspective when we look through reason for understanding! Therefore, symbols like Christ or anti-Christ, we see them in a warped way and don't really understand them at all! They are "mystified"...shrouded in illusion when looked at through logic. We think anti-christ is some polarized "bad" thing.

    The real reality is understood through a blend of emotion, intuition and reason. As long as we're looking at ration or reason as providing the epitome of understanding, we're missing reality!!

    Which is not to say Obama is the anti-Christ! He does spook me, though!

    Of course reality is not rational. Human nature ......humans being .......is not rational.


    But maybe it's time for us humans to start working towards a reality that involves less violence, hatred, ignorance, decrimination, greed, apathy and conflict.

    Maybe.

    If we are to evolve as a species, we do need to start addressing some of our most unpleasant and vicious instincts/bahavioral patterns.

    Or maybe, as a species in our present state of physical existence, we were never meant to evolve, in the first place. Maybe we've achieved as high of an intellectual and spirtual plane, as our present physical brains and bodies are capable of.

    Maybe the next evolution of the human species will only occur after a mass organic genetic mutation, which creates a human hybrid species of some sort.

    Maybe it will be some kind of virus.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    NMyTree wrote:
    Of course reality is not rational. Human nature ......humans being .......is not rational.


    But maybe it's time for us humans to start working towards a reality that involves less violence, hatred, ignorance, decrimination, greed, apathy and conflict.
    Absolutely. 100%
    NMyTree wrote:
    Maybe.

    Or maybe, as a species in our present state of physical existence, we were never meant to evolve, in the first place. Maybe we've achieved as high of an intellectual and spirtual plane, as our present physical brains and bodies are capable of.

    Maybe the next evolution of the human species will only occur after a mass organic genetic mutation, which creates a human hybrid species of some sort.

    Maybe it will be some kind of virus.
    What you speak of is what is going to happen. Only not by virus. Through natural evolution. Just as you say it (and kudos, dude, for being tapped into the Universal pool!!):
    NMyTree wrote:
    If we are to evolve as a species, we do need to start addressing some of our most unpleasant and vicious instincts/bahavioral patterns.
    The problem as it stands is humans are egoistic. As long as the ego tells us we can continue to abuse our bodies/minds with substances, etc., disorder, etc, while blocking and twisting our feminine intuitive/emotional intelligences, we will continue to stay trapped in the realm of loss and pain, separated from our natural redemption and Potential. We will distort the Glorious realm of our evolution, which is coming into being whether we're aligned with it or not.

    All the while others ARE gloriously aligned. And will thrive, and benefit from this natural evolution, in Amazing ways.
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Again, NMyTree...

    We think we'll be saved by something outside of us..like mutation...

    The 'reason' we think this is because we've been mesmerized into 'believing' that our linear, logical view, in time, represents reality. And really, again, logic, all things linear, and time actually represent our left brain patriarchal thinking that we are immersed in, where we need to see things play out one after another, because we cannot yet see holistically. In order to see holistically, we must integrate our intuition, and emotion. If we have any disorder/addiction, etc, we continue to block the process, willfully, no less.

    When we resolve the innner imbalances, we become restored to an inner vision far beyond what we can comprehend.

    The time is NOW.

    The Kingdom of Heaven is Within, for those who look for and find it. Right now they are few. And multiplying quickly through the whispering winds of change.

    And the sooner we all get on board with this, we'll be able to outlet our idealist, "utopian" visions.

    Until then, the majority will vote for the Obamas of the world, perpetuating the illusory polarities, learning the hard way through violent, illness based consequences!
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    My grandparents will believe anything they read on the Internet.

    As such, they believe Obama to be a radical Muslim black panther with terrorist ties who wants to steal their social security checks and use the money to murder unborn babies.

    \.

    that is sooo funny
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