Marker in the sand may have been a radio hit if:

DCRONIN
DCRONIN Posts: 39
edited May 2008 in The Porch
It had different, more commercail lyrics.
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  • Jesika537
    Jesika537 Posts: 301
    but than it wouldn't be Marker in the Sand...
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  • JordyWordy
    JordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    you could probably say that about most pearl jam songs!
  • I_Got_Shit
    I_Got_Shit Posts: 325
    ...if this country wasn't run by religious wingnuts?
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  • DeLukin
    DeLukin Posts: 2,757
    WWS did pretty well on the radio and its lyrics were pretty critical of the current administration...
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  • vluggage
    vluggage Posts: 71
    DeLukin wrote:
    WWS did pretty well on the radio and its lyrics were pretty critical of the current administration...

    It is not the political issues with the song that makes it "controversial". It is the religious aspects of the song that that some would have issues with.
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  • DeLukin
    DeLukin Posts: 2,757
    1/2 Empty wrote:
    It is not the political issues with the song that makes it "controversial". It is the religious aspects of the song that that some would have issues with.

    Possibly. But would they have enough issue with the religious aspects of the song to not make it a 'radio hit.' I doubt it...
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  • OmahaJammer
    OmahaJammer Posts: 261
    BeerBaron wrote:
    Exactly.

    Marker wasn't it radio hit because Marker isn't a radio hit. Plain and simple.

    Has nothing to do with the lyrics.


    I disagree. From the first time I heard the record, right up to this very day, I think Marker is the closest thing to a radio hit that was on that record. WWS was okay, but Marker should have been the 2nd single. No doubt about it.
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  • maybe if they changed the music and the lyrics.
  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    Pearl Jam is not a commercially accepted band because they are better than that. Its not a bad thing. The radio sucks, you should kill yours (unless its Sirius radio, of course)
  • Ryan_WFC
    Ryan_WFC Posts: 1,353
    It would also help if the production didn't make it sound like a dubbed cassette.
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  • QuestionAuthority
    QuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    For me, the lyrics are what make the song outstanding.. so I am glad it was not a radio hit for that reason alone.
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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Pearl Jam doesn't really care about radio play. I'll admit, it was pretty obvious they tried to get back into the spotlight with avocado, but they clearly didn't try too hard.

    Proof that PJ doesn't care: Save You could've easily been their single to gain some fans. They could've easily cut out the fucker parts, instead they chose the "not single friendly" I am Mine.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Lyrics have nothing to do with anything being a hit. For the first time in a long time, I listened to pop radio for a bit, just to hear what was going on---and the first thing is a song that says "How am I supposed to breathe with no air", to which my brains first reply was "You're not...you would die".

    Let's not forget that Fergie has a lot of hits and her lyrics are about as deep as...well...something not deep at all
  • I disagree. From the first time I heard the record, right up to this very day, I think Marker is the closest thing to a radio hit that was on that record. WWS was okay, but Marker should have been the 2nd single. No doubt about it.

    I definitely agree. Marker is the catchiest song on the album, and I thought single as soon as I heard it. I don't think that's a bad thing either. It's my favorite song on the album
  • Pearl Jam doesn't really care about radio play. I'll admit, it was pretty obvious they tried to get back into the spotlight with avocado, but they clearly didn't try too hard.

    Proof that PJ doesn't care: Save You could've easily been their single to gain some fans. They could've easily cut out the fucker parts, instead they chose the "not single friendly" I am Mine.

    That was the 2nd single......it didn't catch on.
  • washedinblack91
    washedinblack91 Posts: 3,079
    i think lyrics have little to do with a song being a hit or not. i think if the melody is something that really speaks to people they'll respond to that first and figure out the lyrics second. even if they do know what the lyrics are, who's to say they'll figure out what it means? we would know what it meant because we're used to having to figure out what ed means in other songs but a lot of people listen to songs with straightforward meaning. not to say that someone has to be smart to understand that song, but there are a ton of people out there that misinterpret lyrics all the time. look at that police song "every breath you take", do you know how many people think it's a beautiful love song? so yeah, lyrics have little to do with whether a song is a hit or not.
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  • I think marker is too mid-tempo music-wise to play on rock radio, and too weird to play on top40. pretty much all their stuff since Yield falls under that category except a handful of songs they dont want to release (severed hand). they're just not on the same page as radio nowadays. not even close.
  • benito
    benito Posts: 16
    Is the radio thing a big issue anyway???? I live in France. I've never heard a single Pearl Jam song on the radio and still i love the band...
  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    1/2 Empty wrote:
    It is not the political issues with the song that makes it "controversial". It is the religious aspects of the song that that some would have issues with.

    I don't know, when R.E.M. has a hit song called "Losing my Religion" it's hard to believe Pearl Jam would have been censored for it's lyrics which are pretty subtle in their critique.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,801
    glad it wasn't a hit at all as a matter of fact i hope they don't ever have another hit for mainstream radio again ,keep the mainstream out of here ...
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