Tony Blair is a man of great courage

merlyn

DCGARDEN wrote:

Most likely because of my support for Bush, but I like Tony Blair very much -
I'm thankful that he and Britain are an ally of the United States

yeah thanks blair's put us right in the firing line cos he wants to be up bushe's ass.

pushmepullme

FredFlintstone wrote:

It taked huge balls to send other to fight in a war....

I'd say it takes more courage to step back and say no to Bush to be honest! No one wanted the war and he went against his electorate.

pushmepullme

merlyn wrote:

well fucking said!!!!

I'll third what he said!

ConX

Tony Blair a man of courage????? LMAO! I thought every human alive knew he was a lying slimeball. Whenever I listen to one of his speeches, I hear a man talking in circles and saying totally nothing.

merlyn

ConX wrote:

Tony Blair a man of courage????? LMAO! I thought every human alive knew he was a lying slimeball. Whenever I listen to one of his speeches, I hear a man talking in circles and saying totally nothing.

OR JUST BOLLOCKS

merlyn

pushmepullme wrote:

I'll third what he said!

SHE LUV!

DCGARDEN

merlyn wrote:

yeah thanks blair's put us right in the firing line cos he wants to be up bushe's ass.

OR....... he saw many things the same way Bush does, and the same way a lot of people in America do - and did'nt cave into the other European hierarchies pressure to resist what he truly believed in?

RockinInCanada

DCGARDEN wrote:

OR....... he saw many things the same way Bush does, and the same way a lot of people in America do - and did'nt cave into the other European hierarchies pressure to resist what he truly believed in?

Question is was he right?

From the current situation I believe not.....

I do not agree with Bush and his policies but sometimes I cannot fathom how some people get stupified that people will think like him....its not like it is unusual for two leaders to believe the same things.....are they right or wrong is the issue that should be examined.....

Larry Zisstans

tony blair is a politician.

if you don't know that word, look it up in any dictionary.

peace
lz

FinsburyParkCarrots

DCGARDEN wrote:

OR....... he saw many things the same way Bush does, and the same way a lot of people in America do - and did'nt cave into the other European hierarchies pressure to resist what he truly believed in?

...or the opinions of the people whom he was elected to represent, either.

RockinInCanada

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

...or the opinions of the people whom he was elected to represent, either.

But when has a politician listened to what his voters wanted....less than more I would be willing to bet......

FinsburyParkCarrots

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

But when has a politician listened to what his voters wanted....less than more I would be willing to bet......

Well, in such a matter as going into an unjust war, British PM Harold Wilson refused to follow LBJ into Vietnam. He was listening to popular opinion. There was, therefore, a precedent, for Blair, of a British PM listening to the people in regard to a political issue of the utmost seriousness. Remember, the PM isn't a president. He has more accountability to his local consituents as a member of parliament, and to the country, as First Lord of the Treasury.

Although politicians often act in a dictatorial way, that doesn't ever make it acceptable in a democracy.

RockinInCanada

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Well, in such a matter as going into an unjust war, British PM Harold Wilson refused to follow LBJ into Vietnam. He was listening to popular opinion. There was, therefore, a precedent, for Blair, of a British PM listening to the people in regard to a political issue of the utmost seriousness. Remember, the PM isn't a president. He has more accountability to his local consituents as a member of parliament, and to the country, as First Lord of the Treasury.

Although politicians often act in a dictatorial way, that doesn't ever make it acceptable in a democracy.

Hey I am not saying it is acceptable....however I amnot surprised when they go against populsr opinion either...and I know how a PM works my country is similar...

merlyn

DCGARDEN wrote:

OR....... he saw many things the same way Bush does, and the same way a lot of people in America do - and did'nt cave into the other European hierarchies pressure to resist what he truly believed in?

yeah can i ask are you british? blair never put british citizens first n this countrys gone to shit in the nearly 10 yrs he's been in!!!!!!!

merlyn

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

Question is was he right?

From the current situation I believe not.....

I do not agree with Bush and his policies but sometimes I cannot fathom how some people get stupified that people will think like him....its not like it is unusual for two leaders to believe the same things.....are they right or wrong is the issue that should be examined.....

ya got a point there but still britain's under alot of strain cos of bliars doings i mean it's not a bad thing having the states to bk you up if shit hits the fan but he's to busy with usa n other shit to do a real job with his home land n it's in the shit. it wouldn't surprise me if someone did a real life v for vendetta. good luck i'd say!

RockinInCanada

merlyn wrote:

ya got a point there but still britain's under alot of strain cos of bliars doings i mean it's not a bad thing having the states to bk you up if shit hits the fan but he's to busy with usa n other shit to do a real job with his home land n it's in the shit. it wouldn't surprise me if someone did a real life v for vendetta. good luck i'd say!

Yeah I understand your frustration....with all the efforts put into ill-fated foreign operations one SHOULD start being concerned about where is the money for domestic issues....however as he is politician I am not surprised....disappointed...very much....however my disappointment for leaders has gone on for years...now I am unfortunatly sensatized to it...however I will and forever speak out.....

DCGARDEN

merlyn wrote:

yeah can i ask are you british? blair never put british citizens first n this countrys gone to shit in the nearly 10 yrs he's been in!!!!!!!

No, not British
Speaking only as an American and my point of view
The title to the thread did not say " only answer if Britsh" or I would've stayed away

Perhaps if I gave a different view, where I'm from may not have concerned you so much?

merlyn

DCGARDEN wrote:

No, not British
Speaking only as an American and my point of view
The title to the thread did not say " only answer if Britsh" or I would've stayed away

Perhaps if I gave a different view, where I'm from may not have concerned you so much?

that's not my point you don't see everyday what this country's gettin in to it's the most expensive economy in the world we pay double what you guys do cos we have what's called nhs which is a health service but we're hardley entitled anymore cos asylum seekers and muslims are using it yet we are paying etc etc need i say more!. jesus you americans are to touchy.

merlyn

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

Yeah I understand your frustration....with all the efforts put into ill-fated foreign operations one SHOULD start being concerned about where is the money for domestic issues....however as he is politician I am not surprised....disappointed...very much....however my disappointment for leaders has gone on for years...now I am unfortunatly sensatized to it...however I will and forever speak out.....

nice one dude more should but that's the problem here british moan about stuff but don't do much.where as the u.s at least the public stand up for there rights!!!

DCGARDEN

merlyn wrote:

that's not my point you don't see everyday what this country's gettin in to it's the most expensive economy in the world we pay double what you guys do cos we have what's called nhs which is a health service but we're hardley entitled anymore cos asylum seekers and muslims are using it yet we are paying etc etc need i say more!. jesus you americans are to touchy.

Relax there Olsen - You seem to be the sensitive one, no I

I was even remotely pretending to speak for a Brit like yourself

Just answering the post, baby