But when has a politician listened to what his voters wanted....less than more I would be willing to bet......
Well, in such a matter as going into an unjust war, British PM Harold Wilson refused to follow LBJ into Vietnam. He was listening to popular opinion. There was, therefore, a precedent, for Blair, of a British PM listening to the people in regard to a political issue of the utmost seriousness. Remember, the PM isn't a president. He has more accountability to his local consituents as a member of parliament, and to the country, as First Lord of the Treasury.
Although politicians often act in a dictatorial way, that doesn't ever make it acceptable in a democracy.
Well, in such a matter as going into an unjust war, British PM Harold Wilson refused to follow LBJ into Vietnam. He was listening to popular opinion. There was, therefore, a precedent, for Blair, of a British PM listening to the people in regard to a political issue of the utmost seriousness. Remember, the PM isn't a president. He has more accountability to his local consituents as a member of parliament, and to the country, as First Lord of the Treasury.
Although politicians often act in a dictatorial way, that doesn't ever make it acceptable in a democracy.
Hey I am not saying it is acceptable....however I amnot surprised when they go against populsr opinion either...and I know how a PM works my country is similar...
OR....... he saw many things the same way Bush does, and the same way a lot of people in America do - and did'nt cave into the other European hierarchies pressure to resist what he truly believed in?
yeah can i ask are you british? blair never put british citizens first n this countrys gone to shit in the nearly 10 yrs he's been in!!!!!!!
champagne for my real friends & i'm a real pain for my sham friends..
I do not agree with Bush and his policies but sometimes I cannot fathom how some people get stupified that people will think like him....its not like it is unusual for two leaders to believe the same things.....are they right or wrong is the issue that should be examined.....
ya got a point there but still britain's under alot of strain cos of bliars doings i mean it's not a bad thing having the states to bk you up if shit hits the fan but he's to busy with usa n other shit to do a real job with his home land n it's in the shit. it wouldn't surprise me if someone did a real life v for vendetta. good luck i'd say!
champagne for my real friends & i'm a real pain for my sham friends..
ya got a point there but still britain's under alot of strain cos of bliars doings i mean it's not a bad thing having the states to bk you up if shit hits the fan but he's to busy with usa n other shit to do a real job with his home land n it's in the shit. it wouldn't surprise me if someone did a real life v for vendetta. good luck i'd say!
Yeah I understand your frustration....with all the efforts put into ill-fated foreign operations one SHOULD start being concerned about where is the money for domestic issues....however as he is politician I am not surprised....disappointed...very much....however my disappointment for leaders has gone on for years...now I am unfortunatly sensatized to it...however I will and forever speak out.....
yeah can i ask are you british? blair never put british citizens first n this countrys gone to shit in the nearly 10 yrs he's been in!!!!!!!
No, not British
Speaking only as an American and my point of view
The title to the thread did not say " only answer if Britsh" or I would've stayed away
Perhaps if I gave a different view, where I'm from may not have concerned you so much?
I'll keep taking punches
Untill their will grows tired
No, not British
Speaking only as an American and my point of view
The title to the thread did not say " only answer if Britsh" or I would've stayed away
Perhaps if I gave a different view, where I'm from may not have concerned you so much?
that's not my point you don't see everyday what this country's gettin in to it's the most expensive economy in the world we pay double what you guys do cos we have what's called nhs which is a health service but we're hardley entitled anymore cos asylum seekers and muslims are using it yet we are paying etc etc need i say more!. jesus you americans are to touchy.
champagne for my real friends & i'm a real pain for my sham friends..
Yeah I understand your frustration....with all the efforts put into ill-fated foreign operations one SHOULD start being concerned about where is the money for domestic issues....however as he is politician I am not surprised....disappointed...very much....however my disappointment for leaders has gone on for years...now I am unfortunatly sensatized to it...however I will and forever speak out.....
nice one dude more should but that's the problem here british moan about stuff but don't do much.where as the u.s at least the public stand up for there rights!!!
champagne for my real friends & i'm a real pain for my sham friends..
that's not my point you don't see everyday what this country's gettin in to it's the most expensive economy in the world we pay double what you guys do cos we have what's called nhs which is a health service but we're hardley entitled anymore cos asylum seekers and muslims are using it yet we are paying etc etc need i say more!. jesus you americans are to touchy.
Relax there Olsen - You seem to be the sensitive one, no I
I was even remotely pretending to speak for a Brit like yourself
Just answering the post, baby
I'll keep taking punches
Untill their will grows tired
One has to have access to regular feeds of CBS, ABC and NBC, as well as the US home version of CNN, to realise that actually, the BBC here isn't so bad. I have access to these US stations, and their content is astonishingly poor in comparison with BBC News 24. How would people know the deal I was posting, a couple of years ago, about Hutton and the Downing Street memo, in the States, when the big news on NBC seems to be, at the moment, about this bint who used to present the US version of "Millionaire", taking over as anchor?
If you watched these shit stations - glad I don't have Fox - you might think, on the shiny toothed surface, Blair was a leader of darkbrained children into adult, civilised light. However, if you read Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness, you might pick up some sense of precedent from all this nonsense.
that's not my point you don't see everyday what this country's gettin in to it's the most expensive economy in the world we pay double what you guys do cos we have what's called nhs which is a health service but we're hardley entitled anymore cos asylum seekers and muslims are using it yet we are paying etc etc .
now there is no need for racism. there are a lot of reasons why the nhs isnt as good as it should be so dont go down the The Sun or The Mail route of blaming immigrants/muslims.
Here here. Did you know immigrants bring more money into the country than they take out?
My sister worked for the NHS so I won't hear a bad word said about it, it may not be perfect but tell me something which is!
"I am a doughnut." (live - Berlin, Germany - 11/03/96)
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
its a common misconception that "foreigners" are the cause of all britains ills.
In most cases they are working below the minimum wage,paying outrageous rents and council taxes.
You only have to look at the recent crime figures to realise that the majority of crimes are being committed by home grown criminals.
its a common misconception that "foreigners" are the cause of all britains ills.
In most cases they are working below the minimum wage,paying outrageous rents and council taxes.
You only have to look at the recent crime figures to realise that the majority of crimes are being committed by home grown criminals.
its not a "misconception". it is infact a lie propergated by the right-wing press and it is sad how many people believe them.
Like our leader Mr Bush, It takes a brave man to send others to die while living a life of privelage and attending thousand dollar fundraisers on a weekly basis.
I mean, at some point, champagne gives you burps. And ANBAR province has nothing on those burps.
And Bush knows all about war from his traumatic experience flying extinct WW2 era bombers while getting drunk, doing blow, and missing his ANG commitments. You think life comes easy with a last name like Bush?
"Sean Hannity knows there is no greater threat to America today than Bill Clinton 15 years ago"- Stephen Colbert
now there is no need for racism. there are a lot of reasons why the nhs isnt as good as it should be so dont go down the The Sun or The Mail route of blaming immigrants/muslims.
i'm not racist, alot of my mates are black, indian, muslim,jewish etc. it's the gov's fault they give everything we're entitled to away and then suddenly we're not entitled to it. there's just no justice. can't you see the country's fucked!? i could care less bout colour of peoples skin & religions. there's just no morals
champagne for my real friends & i'm a real pain for my sham friends..
Here here. Did you know immigrants bring more money into the country than they take out?
My sister worked for the NHS so I won't hear a bad word said about it, it may not be perfect but tell me something which is!
so does mine and my mother in law . funny now how they are starting to charge for the services in some GP surgery's for people who don't live here!
i think you people look at the world in rose coloured glasse's.
champagne for my real friends & i'm a real pain for my sham friends..
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But when has a politician listened to what his voters wanted....less than more I would be willing to bet......
Well, in such a matter as going into an unjust war, British PM Harold Wilson refused to follow LBJ into Vietnam. He was listening to popular opinion. There was, therefore, a precedent, for Blair, of a British PM listening to the people in regard to a political issue of the utmost seriousness. Remember, the PM isn't a president. He has more accountability to his local consituents as a member of parliament, and to the country, as First Lord of the Treasury.
Although politicians often act in a dictatorial way, that doesn't ever make it acceptable in a democracy.
Hey I am not saying it is acceptable....however I amnot surprised when they go against populsr opinion either...and I know how a PM works my country is similar...
yeah can i ask are you british? blair never put british citizens first n this countrys gone to shit in the nearly 10 yrs he's been in!!!!!!!
ya got a point there but still britain's under alot of strain cos of bliars doings i mean it's not a bad thing having the states to bk you up if shit hits the fan but he's to busy with usa n other shit to do a real job with his home land n it's in the shit. it wouldn't surprise me if someone did a real life v for vendetta. good luck i'd say!
Yeah I understand your frustration....with all the efforts put into ill-fated foreign operations one SHOULD start being concerned about where is the money for domestic issues....however as he is politician I am not surprised....disappointed...very much....however my disappointment for leaders has gone on for years...now I am unfortunatly sensatized to it...however I will and forever speak out.....
No, not British
Speaking only as an American and my point of view
The title to the thread did not say " only answer if Britsh" or I would've stayed away
Perhaps if I gave a different view, where I'm from may not have concerned you so much?
Untill their will grows tired
nice one dude more should but that's the problem here british moan about stuff but don't do much.where as the u.s at least the public stand up for there rights!!!
Relax there Olsen - You seem to be the sensitive one, no I
I was even remotely pretending to speak for a Brit like yourself
Just answering the post, baby
Untill their will grows tired
One has to have access to regular feeds of CBS, ABC and NBC, as well as the US home version of CNN, to realise that actually, the BBC here isn't so bad. I have access to these US stations, and their content is astonishingly poor in comparison with BBC News 24. How would people know the deal I was posting, a couple of years ago, about Hutton and the Downing Street memo, in the States, when the big news on NBC seems to be, at the moment, about this bint who used to present the US version of "Millionaire", taking over as anchor?
If you watched these shit stations - glad I don't have Fox - you might think, on the shiny toothed surface, Blair was a leader of darkbrained children into adult, civilised light. However, if you read Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness, you might pick up some sense of precedent from all this nonsense.
Do you follow?
Faith. What is this faith???
Christian?
combat???
banknotes??
Please fully explain so we can come to your side.
The one with courage... so, he's the lion... we know Cheney is the Tin Man... I guess that makes Bush the Scarecrow, huh?
Hail, Hail!!!
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/u/Y/bushies_wizardofoz.jpg
now there is no need for racism. there are a lot of reasons why the nhs isnt as good as it should be so dont go down the The Sun or The Mail route of blaming immigrants/muslims.
http://www.myspace.com/thelastreel http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=19604327965
My sister worked for the NHS so I won't hear a bad word said about it, it may not be perfect but tell me something which is!
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
--Ed
In most cases they are working below the minimum wage,paying outrageous rents and council taxes.
You only have to look at the recent crime figures to realise that the majority of crimes are being committed by home grown criminals.
Bern 13/9/06
its not a "misconception". it is infact a lie propergated by the right-wing press and it is sad how many people believe them.
http://www.myspace.com/thelastreel http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=19604327965
Like our leader Mr Bush, It takes a brave man to send others to die while living a life of privelage and attending thousand dollar fundraisers on a weekly basis.
I mean, at some point, champagne gives you burps. And ANBAR province has nothing on those burps.
And Bush knows all about war from his traumatic experience flying extinct WW2 era bombers while getting drunk, doing blow, and missing his ANG commitments. You think life comes easy with a last name like Bush?
i think you people look at the world in rose coloured glasse's.