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Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
I've asked this in AET and Poetry, but I guess it's more appropriate to ask you all:

What is a zine to you? What must it include, what is the format, what are key elements?

Also, what is an e-zine to you? What would differentiate it from a hardcopy e-zine besides not being hardcopy?

I think it is more appropriate because it was brought to my attention in the wiki definition of a zine that Thomas Paine was referenced. A little light bulb went up - AHA! Moving Train should be asked this, also.
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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    i think overall a zine can include anything outside of the mainstream, personal or political. there are some fanzines too, but i don't have as much experience with that. i guess you can do it electronically, but i'd think there's a chance you'd be walking a fine line between that and a blog. personally i enjoy the idea of a print zine because it seems more in line with the DIY ethic. and print media like that is fun to distribute. it's also more romantic. people don't create zines to make money, so there's a different feeling when you're self-publishing and copying and putting together everything yourself. e-zines seem kind of lazy, but maybe it's the direction we're headed. that's just me.

    are you creating a zine?
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    VictoryGin wrote:
    i think overall a zine can include anything outside of the mainstream, personal or political. there are some fanzines too, but i don't have as much experience with that. i guess you can do it electronically, but i'd think there's a chance you'd be walking a fine line between that and a blog. personally i enjoy the idea of a print zine because it seems more in line with the DIY ethic. and print media like that is fun to distribute. it's also more romantic. people don't create zines to make money, so there's a different feeling when you're self-publishing and copying and putting together everything yourself. e-zines seem kind of lazy, but maybe it's the direction we're headed. that's just me.

    are you creating a zine?
    Possibly. I'm still feeling the waters on what a reader would expect from a zine.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    Possibly. I'm still feeling the waters on what a reader would expect from a zine.

    what's the message you're trying to get out? i think it helps to have a clear idea of what you want first, and then seek out the audience. zines are a labor of love and take up considerable time, you'll want to be interested in what you're doing. do you know other zine makers?
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    VictoryGin wrote:
    what's the message you're trying to get out? i think it helps to have a clear idea of what you want first, and then seek out the audience. zines are a labor of love and take up considerable time, you'll want to be interested in what you're doing. do you know other zine makers?
    A long time ago I was thinking of doing this, and I posted a proposal in the poetry forum, and I came across very totalitarian. Someone brought up very good points about my presentation, and I asked that someone on this board for his input this time around (someone, if you want to let youself be known, go ahead). I'm really excited that it could happen, and hopefully many people will feel invested.

    It would be a PJ fanzine, basically we would put something together, with submissions from anyone who wants to submit, and maybe post it on someone's blog, but then I would like to send a copy to PJ via the fanclub address. I still don't know if it's better via paper or CD. CD is more environmentally friendly, but it seems a gift of a physical zine would be better.

    I once asked on a thread if people would prefer to receive Deep in hardcopy or electronically, and I think everyone wrote hardcopy. I expect the same of the PJ members/staff of a gift zine.

    An e-fanzine could include music, and videos I guess. I'm still trying to figure out the topics, if that even needs to be figured out, and the amount of space allotted to each person, if that needs to be figured out. I'm willing to let the project drop if it isn't fair in any way. I think it needs to be a reflection of many voices/one fanclub address. However, as you can guess, I need a little direction. I want it inclusive, but focused. That someone above already offered some help on the final product. Just like with the Secret Santa a couple+ people doing the organizing could end up with a great product.

    It's really in it's early stage.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    A long time ago I was thinking of doing this, and I posted a proposal in the poetry forum, and I came across very totalitarian. Someone brought up very good points about my presentation, and I asked that someone on this board for his input this time around (someone, if you want to let youself be known, go ahead). I'm really excited that it could happen, and hopefully many people will feel invested.

    It would be a PJ fanzine, basically we would put something together, with submissions from anyone who wants to submit, and maybe post it on someone's blog, but then I would like to send a copy to PJ via the fanclub address. I still don't know if it's better via paper or CD. CD is more environmentally friendly, but it seems a gift of a physical zine would be better.

    I once asked on a thread if people would prefer to receive Deep in hardcopy or electronically, and I think everyone wrote hardcopy. I expect the same of the PJ members/staff of a gift zine.

    An e-fanzine could include music, and videos I guess. I'm still trying to figure out the topics, if that even needs to be figured out, and the amount of space allotted to each person, if that needs to be figured out. I'm willing to let the project drop if it isn't fair in any way. I think it needs to be a reflection of many voices/one fanclub address. However, as you can guess, I need a little direction. I want it inclusive, but focused. That someone above already offered some help on the final product. Just like with the Secret Santa a couple+ people doing the organizing could end up with a great product.

    It's really in it's early stage.

    oh thanks, now it all makes sense. that's a big audience you'll have! to clarify, are you thinking hardcopy for pj members/staff only, and then electronic version for all the other readers? that's a good idea otherwise all those paper copies would be really expensive for you . . . unless you did a mail order operation. but that e-version could include music like you say.

    if you're going to seek submissions from a large base, how about a theme for every issue? people can come up with their own topics on a broad theme. you can probably easily set standard length guidelines, depending on how big you want the entire thing to be (figure that part first).

    and if you need any editors, *cough* i know one. :)
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    When i was in my teens, I edited, designed and distributed a mail order fanzine, dedicated to a British comedian. (It doesn't matter which one.) In those days, I had to make do with an electric typewriter, some letraset for article headers, and some friends with a photocopying machine. My format was something like:

    Cover page
    Inside cover page, with writer/artist credits and contents listing
    Editorial page (with some illustration to fill up space. or a subscriptions form)
    One article by a special guest writer
    An interview article
    Some kind of creative writing page, related to the subject
    Your main article
    A competition page
    Letters
    Forthcoming events in the news or media, relating to your subject
    Trivia/miscellaneous/next issue preview

    And you can flesh the format out with photos or illustrations.

    On the Internet, well, you'll probably need a domain name, and a good web design package. You could add a proboards or conforums message board to your 'zine, I guess.
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    VictoryGin wrote:
    oh thanks, now it all makes sense. that's a big audience you'll have! to clarify, are you thinking hardcopy for pj members/staff only, and then electronic version for all the other readers? that's a good idea otherwise all those paper copies would be really expensive for you . . . unless you did a mail order operation. but that e-version could include music like you say.

    if you're going to seek submissions from a large base, how about a theme for every issue? people can come up with their own topics on a broad theme. you can probably easily set standard length guidelines, depending on how big you want the entire thing to be (figure that part first).

    and if you need any editors, *cough* i know one. :)
    Only one physical copy would be in existence that I know of - the one sent to PJ via the fan club. Other people could download it from someone's blog. Theme every issue is a good idea. Should it be a PJ theme? What about length, what about deadlines? As editor, what has to be done before you put on your editor hat?

    The thing is I don't want to cut up anyone's work. I just plan on compiling it in a desktop folder or something, and then when the deadline is up email it to the *someone* who'll make it look cool. Then when *someone* is done, I was thinking I would send a physical copy/CD to PJ via the fanclub address. I was hoping the *someone* or myself or someone else could post it on his/her blog. I could just post the deadline, size allowable etc, and you take it from there before it's sent to the *someone*?

    I guess a better question is what would you like to do as Editor?
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    absolutely--if you wanted a more standardized zine come up with a set of features for each issue. then you can easily set word/character/line counts for each feature and make that clear when seeking submissions. you can always do a broad theme on top of all features to give writers more leeway, or you could dictate topics too.
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    When i was in my teens, I edited, designed and distributed a mail order fanzine, dedicated to a British comedian. (It doesn't matter which one.) In those days, I had to make do with an electric typewriter, some letraset for article headers, and some friends with a photocopying machine. My format was something like:

    Cover page
    Inside cover page, with writer/artist credits and contents listing
    Editorial page (with some illustration to fill up space. or a subscriptions form)
    One article by a special guest writer
    An interview article
    Some kind of creative writing page, related to the subject
    Your main article
    A competition page
    Letters
    Forthcoming events in the news or media, relating to your subject
    Trivia/miscellaneous/next issue preview

    And you can flesh the format out with photos or illustrations.

    On the Internet, well, you'll probably need a domain name, and a good web design package. You could add a proboards or conforums message board to your 'zine, I guess.
    This is great! Again, I don't plan on making it a webpage, just a download, but maybe it'll become something I don't expect. Now, with multiple people (including interviews etc) how would the content be different?

    Here's how I see it so far:

    Cover page
    Inside cover page, with writer/artist credits and contents listing
    Editorial page (with some illustration to fill up space. or a subscriptions form) - who writes?
    Poetry - multiple authors
    Reviews (book/movie/music) - multiple authors
    visual art (painting/photographs etc) - multiple authors
    recipes :D - multiple authors
    A couple main articles about what is happening now - single focus - a piece of music; a piece of legislation; etc. I guess those are editorial pieces.
    Prose/memoir/other writing - multiple authors
    Forthcoming events in the news or media, relating to your subject - not sure
    Trivia/miscellaneous/next issue preview - maybe not there yet

    The main question is how to ask for submissions? Would I or whoever write:

    Need 5 articles on blah blah blah by suchandsuch date, who's willing to write them?

    Need 3 recipes by suchandsuch date, who's willing to write them?

    etc.? Again, I want focus, but not to restrict expression, or to have authors feel inhibited by the focus.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    Only one physical copy would be in existence that I know of - the one sent to PJ via the fan club. Other people could download it from someone's blog. Theme every issue is a good idea. Should it be a PJ theme? What about length, what about deadlines? As editor, what has to be done before you put on your editor hat?

    The thing is I don't want to cut up anyone's work. I just plan on compiling it in a desktop folder or something, and then when the deadline is up email it to the *someone* who'll make it look cool. Then when *someone* is done, I was thinking I would send a physical copy/CD to PJ via the fanclub address. I was hoping the *someone* or myself or someone else could post it on his/her blog. I could just post the deadline, size allowable etc, and you take it from there before it's sent to the *someone*?

    I guess a better question is what would you like to do as Editor?

    there are different levels of editorial duties and i guess you'd have to decide how much involvement one should have with the piece. it sounds like you want pieces to be published as-is for the most part, and to be pretty hands-off with the content of a piece. how about a little style/grammar clean up (depending on the type of the piece)? or do you want everything as-is? you may have to cut a little in order to fit. guidelines aren't ever perfect, but the designer could help with that too--and size, place graphics appropriately.

    you as the 'publisher' :) could determine the theme for each issue, or you can get help from someone on your 'team', like an editor. a pj theme is a great idea. perhaps you could do each zine on a song title, or a lyric. people would interpret that theme how they see fit and shape their pieces accordingly. it sounds like you'd appreciate more structure and focus, so i'd suggest listening to fins about features. determine your features, dictate a theme and people could get really creative with that.

    how exciting!
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    VictoryGin wrote:
    there are different levels of editorial duties and i guess you'd have to decide how much involvement one should have with the piece. it sounds like you want pieces to be published as-is for the most part, and to be pretty hands-off with the content of a piece. how about a little style/grammar clean up (depending on the type of the piece)? or do you want everything as-is? you may have to cut a little in order to fit. guidelines aren't ever perfect, but the designer could help with that too--and size, place graphics appropriately.

    you as the 'publisher' :) could determine the theme for each issue, or you can get help from someone on your 'team', like an editor. a pj theme is a great idea. perhaps you could do each zine on a song title, or a lyric. people would interpret that theme how they see fit and shape their pieces accordingly. it sounds like you'd appreciate more structure and focus, so i'd suggest listening to fins about features. determine your features, dictate a theme and people could get really creative with that.

    how exciting!
    Excellent! If I complile would you edit? Ok, here's the big question:


    What should it be called?

    Just thought of another thing: rotating editors, and designers. I think it would be monthly or quarterly.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    Suggestions on maximum length of written pieces or maximum size of images? Theme suggestions?
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    Excellent! If I complile would you edit? Ok, here's the big question:


    What should it be called?

    Just thought of another thing: rotating editors, and designers. I think it would be monthly or quarterly.

    sure i can help, and that's a good idea to rotate too. do you have an overall page count in mind? if you do, then you can decide on page counts for individual features (and within that the designer can help you determine word counts by the layout depending on fonts used, etc.). or you can just be fluid with the whole thing (although you may run the risk of 'blowing your wad' in the first few issues). i'd suggest some structure to make your life easier. since this will be electronic for the most part, you aren't as restricted by signatures in a way and zines seem a little less strict anyhow. so i guess first think of how standardized you want it, then you can figure out all the other little details. and you'll definitely want to decide how often you want to publish, so you can set up a team in advance and solicit submissions in time.

    ha, i'd have to think about the title. that's a difficult question.
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    I'll put a proposal together by Monday the 4th, and have those that have expressed interest review it. Then when it's final, I'll post the proposal/submission guidelines in each forum.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    Suggestions on maximum length of written pieces or maximum size of images? Theme suggestions?

    if you're doing a monthly one, i'd suggest a small issue. it's a lot of work and you don't want to run out of submissions or interest. quarterly might be a lot easier, but you'd have to decide what you want.

    let's see, here's your list:
    Cover page
    Inside cover page, with writer/artist credits and contents listing
    Editorial page (with some illustration to fill up space. or a subscriptions form) - who writes?
    Poetry - multiple authors
    Reviews (book/movie/music) - multiple authors
    visual art (painting/photographs etc) - multiple authors
    recipes - multiple authors
    A couple main articles about what is happening now - single focus - a piece of music; a piece of legislation; etc. I guess those are editorial pieces.
    Prose/memoir/other writing - multiple authors
    Forthcoming events in the news or media, relating to your subject - not sure
    Trivia/miscellaneous/next issue preview - maybe not there yet

    as for the theme idea, do you want people to write/design new pieces for a theme? or were you looking for more freedom for people? you have a lot of creative features here. since you have this structure you could go without a theme, or you could do one. if you do a broad theme, people could interpret that any way they want. and, you don't need to apply the theme to every feature, though you could. however, it might be harder to use pieces in another issue that don't get used in another because of space. although again, you could have this be any size you want so that doesn't really matter.

    sorry, i'm thinking as i type. basically, you have a lot of freedom with an electronic version. you may only really need to come up with limits just so you're not overwhelmed by the work and that it isn't a 200 page thing.

    if you do a theme, you could print the creative features at whatever length it turns out to be. if you don't do a theme, i'd suggest page limits for the feature so you don't run out for future issues.

    can i suggest a feature? if this is to be all put together by the pj community, how about an interview with a fan in every issue? one fan can interview another.

    i need to eat something before i think more. :)
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    VictoryGin wrote:
    if you're doing a monthly one, i'd suggest a small issue. it's a lot of work and you don't want to run out of submissions or interest. quarterly might be a lot easier, but you'd have to decide what you want.

    let's see, here's your list:
    Cover page
    Inside cover page, with writer/artist credits and contents listing
    Editorial page (with some illustration to fill up space. or a subscriptions form) - who writes?
    Poetry - multiple authors
    Reviews (book/movie/music) - multiple authors
    visual art (painting/photographs etc) - multiple authors
    recipes - multiple authors
    A couple main articles about what is happening now - single focus - a piece of music; a piece of legislation; etc. I guess those are editorial pieces.
    Prose/memoir/other writing - multiple authors
    Forthcoming events in the news or media, relating to your subject - not sure
    Trivia/miscellaneous/next issue preview - maybe not there yet

    as for the theme idea, do you want people to write/design new pieces for a theme? or were you looking for more freedom for people? you have a lot of creative features here. since you have this structure you could go without a theme, or you could do one. if you do a broad theme, people could interpret that any way they want. and, you don't need to apply the theme to every feature, though you could. however, it might be harder to use pieces in another issue that don't get used in another because of space. although again, you could have this be any size you want so that doesn't really matter.

    sorry, i'm thinking as i type. basically, you have a lot of freedom with an electronic version. you may only really need to come up with limits just so you're not overwhelmed by the work and that it isn't a 200 page thing.

    if you do a theme, you could print the creative features at whatever length it turns out to be. if you don't do a theme, i'd suggest page limits for the feature so you don't run out for future issues.

    can i suggest a feature? if this is to be all put together by the pj community, how about an interview with a fan in every issue? one fan can interview another.

    i need to eat something before i think more. :)
    Sounds good - feature sounds good, too, but I don't know who to interview. Would the editor interview the designer? Would the Project Manager (me so far) interview someone because I picked his/her name out of a hat? That would be pretty cool. Anyone interested in being interviewed send a pm to the interviewer, and the interviewer picks the name out of a hat. The interviewer could also be picked out of a hat by either the Editor/Designer/Project Manager. Or to keep it simple the Editor/Designer/Project Manager picks 2 names out of a hat, and one person interviews the other person.

    Theme - so far I have Albums. So, authors would focus on the songs/themes/words of one particular album for their submissions. I could pick the album title out of a hat :D

    I was going to look over the lyrics this weekend and try to find a word or phrase that involves creative movement, and suggest that as the title until someone suggests something better. Given to Fly is too easy ;)
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    Sounds good - feature sounds good, too, but I don't know who to interview. Would the editor interview the designer? Would the Project Manager (me so far) interview someone because I picked his/her name out of a hat? That would be pretty cool. Anyone interested in being interviewed send a pm to the interviewer, and the interviewer picks the name out of a hat. The interviewer could also be picked out of a hat by either the Editor/Designer/Project Manager. Or to keep it simple the Editor/Designer/Project Manager picks 2 names out of a hat, and one person interviews the other person.

    Theme - so far I have Albums. So, authors would focus on the songs/themes/words of one particular album for their submissions. I could pick the album title out of a hat :D

    I was going to look over the lyrics this weekend and try to find a word or phrase that involves creative movement, and suggest that as the title until someone suggests something better. Given to Fly is too easy ;)

    see, you got it! that all sounds fabulous. yeah, regarding the interviews, it could be one fan by another, and you could pick from a group who is interested in doing those things. the interviewer would think of their own questions, so you would get different styles in each issue, each in that individual's own voice. alternately, you could also do a standardized interview to see everyone's different responses to the same questions. either way.

    there are so many titles you could come up with from lyrics. something like 'trading stories with the leaves' is kind of cool, but there are so many good ones to choose from. that will be the fun and frustrating part.
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    Trading Stories with the Leaves - what song?
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    Trading Stories with the Leaves - what song?

    from 'in my tree', although i'd definitely do what you were thinking and check out songs this weekend. i'm sure there's something better, or something that will click with you.

    edit: i just thought, you could do something similar to name features. that could go with the prose section or something, too.
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    No, no, no

    Trading Stories with the Leaves

    is it. I won't look at other lyrics this weekend, and I'm done with the title. If someone else thinks of something then it could be put to a review, but that's it right now. I think of trees often in an incredibly powerful and positive light, so it works for me :)

    What I could do as you suggested is look for names for the different sections of the zine based on lyrics/titles. For instance, what would be the feature section title, and what would be the poetry section title etc.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    No, no, no

    Trading Stories with the Leaves

    is it. I won't look at other lyrics this weekend, and I'm done with the title. If someone else thinks of something then it could be put to a review, but that's it right now. I think of trees often in an incredibly powerful and positive light, so it works for me :)

    What I could do as you suggested is look for names for the different sections of the zine based on lyrics/titles. For instance, what would be the feature section title, and what would be the poetry section title etc.

    whatever you say, boss. :)
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Hi folks... i'm the *someone* :)

    just to butt in and say my £3.29worth, i was going with the idea of a digital download fanzine that would be downloadable as a pdf file (I have all the software and everyone has Acrobat Reader)

    The pdf would/could then be hosted on a web page that would enable people to download and print if they wish (some people, me included, like having hard copies of stuff)

    now, even though i have around 12 years experience as a graphic designer I'm no Klausen :o but i'll do my bestestest..est, to get a fluid looking funky appearance for our issues.

    But all in all we could have some great stuff on it and i'm pretty sure the majority of peoples on this forum would be interested in looking and most importantly contributing to it.

    all said and done, i'm willing to offer up time and i have a good buddy on here who publishes his own cartoons on his own blog (they're very good) and he might be interested in submitting!

    p.s. Finsy! who was the comedian... was it Jim Davidson? ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    As far as competitions, I'm not really into it, but it sounds like other people are. Who would be the judges? The only competition I could think of is:

    Design the Pearl Jam Bookmark

    :D:D:D:D

    The *someone* who is helping with the graphic designer could be the judge unless someone else wants to judge. Really, how do you pick a judge - AHA! - name out of a hat!
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    also.... for interviews and stuff... i bet if we emailed various notable figures who were perhaps fans of the band or had the same political/social interests as the band we could get a reply on various questions. These various questions could then be repeated each issue for a different person... and that person could be a fan from the board, or the manager of Stone's Wild Salmon thingy he does... i remember the girls from Two Feet Thick once interviewed Tim for their website... nothing stopping us doing something akin to that is there?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    dunkman1974 wrote:
    also.... for interviews and stuff... i bet if we emailed various notable figures who were perhaps fans of the band or had the same political/social interests as the band we could get a reply on various questions. These various questions could then be repeated each issue for a different person... and that person could be a fan from the board, or the manager of Stone's Wild Salmon thingy he does... i remember the girls from Two Feet Thick once interviewed Tim for their website... nothing stopping us doing something akin to that is there?
    If you are willing to either do it or get people to do it the sky's the limit! I think since it's really in the infancy stage that various notable figures would not be interested, but I'll be happy to be proven wrong. I just wouldn't know who to ask. It's all yours dunkman1974. I think an interview with a fan by a fan per issue is not out of line, either, but I'll put that in my proposal. I need your input on submission length, and number of submissions, by the way.

    Also, since it is a download I can still print off the PDF like an actually physical zine, and make a nice presentation to the Fanclub PO Box, right? I mean with pretty bows on the packaging :)

    That's really awesome that you'll put a website together! Since it is a website does there need to be a submission length or number maximum. For a paper copy what would be the maximum as ultimately they would be paper for some, and we don't want to tax printers.
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    I didn't receive my Deep Issue, yet, but LizardKing noted there is a contest for an art project. Imagine if we got our act together, and submitted this? All the people involved would get kudos :D Just a thought.
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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    Also, since it is a download I can still print off the PDF like an actually physical zine, and make a nice presentation to the Fanclub PO Box, right? I mean with pretty bows on the packaging :)

    an option for the fanclub p.o. box printout is to layout the pages so you can print on 11x17 paper and then fold over and staple. that would give the printout more of a zine feel, over just 8.5x11 sheets stapled in the corner. though someone may have a much better idea of how to achieve that if you want that effect.
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,275
    VictoryGin wrote:
    an option for the fanclub p.o. box printout is to layout the pages so you can print on 11x17 paper and then fold over and staple. that would give the printout more of a zine feel, over just 8.5x11 sheets stapled in the corner. though someone may have a much better idea of how to achieve that if you want that effect.
    I know that's more of the Zine feel, but it's a little too rustic for me. If I'm going to Kinko's and paying for color copying I'm going up a few notches above staples. Hole punches is what I'm thinking enclosed in a clear cover;)
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