Homeless Shopping Spree..

Skitch PattersonSkitch Patterson Posts: 642
edited December 2006 in A Moving Train
As some of you may have heard, (or not) by now, Opie and Anthony do an annual event called the homeless shopping spree.... They round up about 15 homeless guys, and give them each $200 and bus them to an upscale mall around Christmas time... Often times their fans also chip in additional money for the homeless.

The end result is homeless people get things they can use, and they get a couple hours of entertaining radio....

Anyways, this year, a number of sources have spoken out against- most notably the Mayor of Boston- Tom Menino... and it was just mentioned on O'Reilly (first time ive actually watched his horrendous show)....


So which do you guys think it is, Blatent explotation, or a Good Hearted Trade off?
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    As some of you may have heard, (or not) by now, Opie and Anthony do an annual event called the homeless shopping spree.... They round up about 15 homeless guys, and give them each $200 and bus them to an upscale mall around Christmas time... Often times their fans also chip in additional money for the homeless.

    The end result is homeless people get things they can use, and they get a couple hours of entertaining radio....

    Anyways, this year, a number of sources have spoken out against- most notably the Mayor of Boston- Tom Menino... and it was just mentioned on O'Reilly (first time ive actually watched his horrendous show)....


    So which do you guys think it is, Blatent explotation, or a Good Hearted Trade off?

    Probably a bit of both, though it's up to the homeless peeps. If they don't mind, then who cares?
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  • worldworld Posts: 266
    I think its hilarious. I heard that "The Gap" wouldnt use the "Gap Gift Cards" that the homeless were using. What a bunch of spoiled whores.

    I vote Good Hearted.
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  • world wrote:

    I vote Good Hearted.


    I agree. Sure they benefit, but so do the people that pay $1000 a plate to feel good about themselves and meet underprivledged/disabled at events- with photo ops and good PR.

    What i find kind of entertaining about the whole thing is that Homeless Groups are upset about this... If it hadnt been on a notoriously, ahem, controversial radio show, they in all likelyhood would have lauded it as an incredible act of charity.... Yes, the homeless were used for entertainment, and they also were paid accordingly and not "forced" to do anything. It was all by choice.

    This is not the first year they have done it, but its garnering some national headlines.... I am not going to post the links to the articles i have read (boston globe) because they are heinous examples of biased members of the media.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Homeless people are homeless for a reason. A homeless guy was given $100,000 just to see how he would spend the money.. So the first thing he does is buy the guy he takes his cans to for money a new car.. he then goes and buys himself a new car for 30k.. needless to say, even after giving him 100k, he was homeless again after a few weeks..
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    why go to an upscale mall, tho? if they wanted them to use the money more wisely wouldn't they take them to target or somewhere?
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    El_Kabong wrote:
    why go to an upscale mall, tho? if they wanted them to use the money more wisely wouldn't they take them to target or somewhere?
    That was my thought. $200 will buy a bunch of stuff at K-Mart or Target. At an upscale mall, what do they get? A couple of t-shirts and a pair of socks?
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  • Homeless people are homeless for a reason. A homeless guy was given $100,000 just to see how he would spend the money.. So the first thing he does is buy the guy he takes his cans to for money a new car.. he then goes and buys himself a new car for 30k.. needless to say, even after giving him 100k, he was homeless again after a few weeks..

    Yeah, all homeless people are the same. They think the same, feel the same and are all in the same situation because their circumstances were all the same.
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  • hippiemom wrote:
    That was my thought. $200 will buy a bunch of stuff at K-Mart or Target. At an upscale mall, what do they get? A couple of t-shirts and a pair of socks?


    Bingo....it was entertainment not charity. O'Reiley was right on this one.
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  • world wrote:
    I think its hilarious. I heard that "The Gap" wouldnt use the "Gap Gift Cards" that the homeless were using. What a bunch of spoiled whores.

    I vote Good Hearted.

    the sentence doesnt make sense

    you mean the gap wont acept the cards they were given? you have a link on that? if so then the gap can go to hell

    i think giving them all 200 is a good idea i guess

    the bible says sell what you have and give to the poor
  • i cant believe people sit around and debate someone helping someone

    exploitation? what crap!!

    so they helped them and they find it ammusing and its for publicity-who cares

    2 birds with one stone
  • tooferztooferz Posts: 135
    Homeless people are homeless for a reason. A homeless guy was given $100,000 just to see how he would spend the money.. So the first thing he does is buy the guy he takes his cans to for money a new car.. he then goes and buys himself a new car for 30k.. needless to say, even after giving him 100k, he was homeless again after a few weeks..


    and the reason homeless people are homeless? they are irresponsible or something?
  • Heatherj43Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    A bit of a story about this homeless thing, while yes they could get more elsewhere, it was started out to be a comedic presentation of the rich, hoighty people at these upscale malls putting up with homeless people shopping there. O and A are comedians, at least some think so.

    As for the idea of exploitation, the homeless are exploited every day just by being homeless.
    This years' homeless thing they did was huge. The mall was packed, as well as the parking lot and roads going to it. People at the mall bought these 15 guys a lot of things. They hardly had to spend the 200 bucks they got.

    O and A uses this as comedy, but also satire and they do try to shed light on the homeless plight throughout the year. This annual thing is merely satire, and an eye opener of how the haves have not a clue.

    I do not feel any of these people were exploited, except maybe the stores who wouldn't wait on some of these homeless people.


    It was all okay everyone.
    I am a strong advocate for the homeless and i found this O and A thing good not bad.
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  • Heatherj43Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    El_Kabong wrote:
    why go to an upscale mall, tho? if they wanted them to use the money more wisely wouldn't they take them to target or somewhere?
    Cuz it wasn't so much to give these guys stuff, they could just do that silently, it was to exploit the rich!
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  • Heatherj43Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    world wrote:
    I think its hilarious. I heard that "The Gap" wouldnt use the "Gap Gift Cards" that the homeless were using. What a bunch of spoiled whores.

    I vote Good Hearted.
    Foot Locker locked their gates for awhile trapping some inside. One homeless guy actually had the salesperson keep getting him various shoes in various sizes til he found ones he liked.

    Many people bought these guys parka coats, jeans, shoes, etc out of their own pocket.

    I found it all good too...funny as hell. Online they were showing still pics of the rich peoples' faces, which looked appalled.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    Heatherj43 wrote:
    Cuz it wasn't so much to give these guys stuff, they could just do that silently, it was to exploit the rich!

    O&A did it for the entertainment value. You saw it as a way to laugh at the rich. I'm sure most saw it as a way to laugh at the homeless (while clearing their conscience by giving them stuff). They certainly didn't do it to help the homeless or they'd have done as Kabong and Hippimom and others said, and taken them to Target or a thrift store or a grocery store where $200 bucks could have made a difference to them. Instead they end up with a shiny pair of $150 Nikes and an A&F T-Shirt.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    jeffbr wrote:
    O&A did it for the entertainment value. You saw it as a way to laugh at the rich. I'm sure most saw it as a way to laugh at the homeless (while clearing their conscience by giving them stuff). They certainly didn't do it to help the homeless or they'd have done as Kabong and Hippimom and others said, and taken them to Target or a thrift store or a grocery store where $200 bucks could have made a difference to them. Instead they end up with a shiny pair of $150 Nikes and an A&F T-Shirt.

    My sentiments exactly.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Hey it's 200 bucks and potentially decent clothes they didn't have before. It's dick to not give them guidance, as a sleeping bag will do them much more good than a pair of Jordans.

    Seems if they really wanted to help get folks off the streets they might buy a hotel room and let them clean up, get a good nights sleep then help them find a job, follow up so they keep it, and then try and find a few mental health clinics who could help them deal with thier issues pro bono.

    I would imagine that some people like the freedom of it, some fell on hard times, some have mental issues. Still having 200 bucks and a new jacket when it's cold is better than not having it.

    Think about it, it's basically giving them a job. When you go to work, you provide a service to your boss that they pay you for. Nothing is different here. They get paid for being on air. For that day, they are talent. It's not more exploitation than having a job. It's just dick to not give them any guidance on what to buy with that money.
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  • jeffbr wrote:
    O&A did it for the entertainment value. You saw it as a way to laugh at the rich. I'm sure most saw it as a way to laugh at the homeless (while clearing their conscience by giving them stuff). They certainly didn't do it to help the homeless or they'd have done as Kabong and Hippimom and others said, and taken them to Target or a thrift store or a grocery store where $200 bucks could have made a difference to them. Instead they end up with a shiny pair of $150 Nikes and an A&F T-Shirt.


    But thats still a pair of Nike's and a T- Shirt they didnt have before.

    I think the truth lies somewhere in between. I dont think anyones claiming its altruistic, just the benefit far outweighs the exploitation.

    I think they fact they didnt take them to Target or Wal-Mart actually proves the opposite of the point you are trying to make. The Homeless would have behaved the same at a cheap mall, a rich mall, a huge discounter or a thrift store (and could have been laughed at just as much)- So the only people that were truely exploited were the pretentious mall goers.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    But thats still a pair of Nike's and a T- Shirt they didnt have before.

    I think the truth lies somewhere in between. I dont think anyones claiming its altruistic, just the benefit far outweighs the exploitation.

    I think they fact they didnt take them to Target or Wal-Mart actually proves the opposite of the point you are trying to make. The Homeless would have behaved the same at a cheap mall, a rich mall, a huge discounter or a thrift store (and could have been laughed at just as much)- So the only people that were truely exploited were the pretentious mall goers.


    Oh, I know what you mean. Getting some Nikes and an A&F shirt is better than a kick in the balls, so the homeless guys definitely got some benefit. I just didn't want people to think this was anything other than an O&A stunt done for the entertainment value.
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