War Money Going To Taxpayers
onelongsong
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as a business man; i always follow the money. i see where it's being spent and try to find a way to intercept at least some of it. so where is the war money going?
first; government contracts go to businesses that make parts used in war.
employers hire people to make the parts.
employees get paid.
our chicago plant is knocking out airplane parts like never before. more employees have been added to handle the increased work load. so that money is being spent in america thus stimulating the economy. and if you look closely; every war has stimulated technology too.
first; government contracts go to businesses that make parts used in war.
employers hire people to make the parts.
employees get paid.
our chicago plant is knocking out airplane parts like never before. more employees have been added to handle the increased work load. so that money is being spent in america thus stimulating the economy. and if you look closely; every war has stimulated technology too.
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It is Exhibit A for the idea that there is more to life than money.
Wow, war or threatened war means more jobs and profits !?! How has this secret been kept so long? If the guys in Washington and their wealthy buddies figure this out then they may try to use this info to make themselves more wealthy. Shhhhhhhhhh................
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Be careful, though, because the poster did not say or even imply this. Though I have heard people say that we need war for these reasons.
i could give two shits if ols didn't say it, and i'm sure at some point he'll give me some wonderful explanation on making profits at the expense of human lives....
Well if so, I've got your back.
don't get me wrong i understand the war-economy relationship......i just think it's really offensive to be happy about it....
As do I. I was just saying that there is not much (maybe a slight) tone of that in that particular post.
You know what else could stimulate the economy? Lets say some public works campaigns similar to what the gov't did during the depression. OR BETTER YET...what do you say we make some major laws to clean up the environment...and your plant begins producing parts that go to generators that make cleaner air from factories! Or gov't initiative that pay corporations to make more fuel efficient cars. Or contracts to cure some diseases! There are many...many other options to stimulate the economy other then WAR! Or how bout we build some better schools in AMERICA instead of flushing $12Billion/month into Iraq.
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you see this mess....you supported it...and now you try to justify...human nature. Is pretty twisted....but we are just humans.
Personally, I'd rather spend my money exploring Mars than on killing people.
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Who "lets" people die?
Doesn't everybody die?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
first of all; i never said i was happy about it.
secondly; i never said it was worth it.
the purpose of this thread was to point out to the people who day after day talk about 16 billion dollars (or whatever the amount) being burned to cook hot dogs. through out history; war has always helped the economy. war pulled us out of the great depression. the exception would be the gulf war. not enough equipment and arms were lost to require replacement.
now; how do you build better schools or more efficient anything if the populous isn't working? this is done through taxes. if people aren't earning money they are not paying taxes. in fact; they're causing a negative economy by needing to draw from social services.
my youngest son left for iraq a week ago today. the thought of it makes me ill. i've slept 2 hours in the past 2 days. but it doesn't change the fact that part of the money you're bitching about is going to pay my son for serving and risking his life. some of that money is going towards equipment to keep him safer. and some of that money is going towards being prepared because every other damn country calls on the us to help them when they get their teat in the ringer.
of all the countries the us has lent money to; i believe only poland has paid the us back. when american money was used to help rebuild a war torn europe (twice in 26 years) there wasn't a thank you. only a kick in the arse and a get the hell out when we were finished.
collecting the money other countries owe us would give us socialized healthcare; the best schools; feed our poor; and provide funding for new technology to save the earth we killed. if you're emitting pollution; you're not only killing billions of people now; but many generations to come. if you think you're not killing people; start up your car and wrap your mouth around the exhaust pipe. for every soldier killed in iraq; you're killing 10,000. including yourself and your family.
well guess what? next year nasa starts it's program to start harvesting helium3 from the moon and there's enough helium3 to provide clean safe power for the entire world for 1000 years.
is that a good enough reason for you?
Hail, Hail!!!
It is not like tourism, where foreign money gets spent here by people who earned it elsewhere.
but isn't that the normal cycle of things? you collect your check and distribute it to the stores; auto workers; etc. then some goes to the farmers and steel companies. the farmers distribute it to the tractor and seed companies and also buy the products you're making. when money follows the cycle; the economy thrives.
what people don't see is that someone can pay $ millions in inheretence taxes for receiving money a family member already paid taxes on; then still be required to pay income taxes.
so the wealthy don't donate < 1% to charity; the government is the charity. they distribute it for the good of all the people. welfare; medicare; medicaid; police; fire services. they also offer research grants and all kinds of services to benefit the people.
you asked for these services and you asked the government to provide them. why not thank the wealthy for keeping your taxes from being any higher than they are?
yes, but there is a much narrower array of companies receiving money during wartime.
i don't know joe. it used to be that way but with everything being computerized and weapons being so specialized; i think that's changed. just about everything is used in wartime. from the farmers that supply the food to microsoft software. i could be wrong. i base my opinion on kentucky windage and not any known stats.
my kid left for iraq last week so don't think i'm in favour of war. i'm just trying to be realistic compared to those who believe that money isn't being used here.
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How does the money that is getting shipped off to Iraq... like into the Iraqi Government's coffers... get spent here by our workers? Are the Iraqis placing orders for F-22 Raptors? Or are we lending them the money to buy the weapons they will need to stand themselves up?
And IF... the Iraqis are using money they are getting from oil revenues to purchase weapons to defend themselves... why are American tax dollars going to them?
How is money spent in and on Iraq... helping average Joe Workingstiff here in the U.S.A?
Hail, Hail!!!
Everybody dies eventually. That doesn't mean that we should regard it as par for the course that men, women, and children are being blown to bits, shot, maimed and tortured.