Kudos for Bono

desandrewsdesandrews Posts: 143
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=kudos_for_bono&ns=DavidStrom&dt=01/08/2007&page=full&comments=true

No unwitty commentary, just came across this and hadn't heard about it so I thought I'd post.

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The Nobel Peace Prize nominee and recently knighted “Bono,” lead singer of the band U2, took a hit to his reputation as an antipoverty crusader a few months ago. U2 Ltd—the band’s publishing company—moved its operations out of Ireland to reduce its tax burden. U2 now shares the same finance company as the famed band the “Rolling Stones,” which incorporated in Holland in 1972.

One of the band members defended the move by noting “Of course we are trying to be tax efficient. Who doesn’t want to be tax efficient?”

Critics from both the left and the right cried “foul.” Liberals complained that Bono—who has been an outspoken advocate of government aid to the underdeveloped world—set a poor example by choosing profit over morality. Conservatives snickered at Bono’s hypocrisy—asking others to contribute more to the world’s poor by paying higher taxes while refusing to do so himself.

It’s easy to smile at the hypocrisy of one of the world’s crusading left-leaning artists—but utterly unconstructive. Taking Bono down a peg might give small satisfaction to those of us who are tired of being lectured at by moralistic celebrities, but the feeling is fleeting.

What if we turn the equation around, and instead of focusing on Bono as a hypocrite, we exalt his case as an example of the working of economic incentives in the real world?

Personally, I don’t doubt Bono’s passion for alleviating the suffering of the world’s poor; in fact, I tend to think that Bono has done more good than harm by campaigning relentlessly to focus attention on the intractable poverty of people in third world countries. Unlike many celebrities, Bono has actually done some real work to put his principles into practice.

More importantly, the recent move of U2’s publishing operations to Holland help to point out the opportunities and limitations of government solutions to social and economic problems.

Instead of looking at the band's choice to reduce their tax burden as an example of human frailty, we should view it as an example of the inevitable limitations on government’s ability to tax and spend its way out of a problem.

Even as genuinely caring a guy as Bono—the recent bestowal of his knighthood was based largely on his dedication to doing good works for others—cannot be taxed without limits. All the best intentions in the world cannot change the fact that human beings and human institutions respond primarily to incentives, not just good intentions.

Looking at and thinking about the human universe in terms of people’s intentions is a fool’s errand. Intentions are essentially mysterious—they occur inside people’s heads and are only available to inspection through what people say and do. In the end, what matters most to the rest of us is not the “why” of how people act but the effect of their actions on the rest of us. And the best way to change outcomes in the real world is not to change people’s intentions—make them “less selfish,” for instance—but to change the conditions under which they make their choices to act. Incentives, not intentions, are the dominant determinant of human behavior.

In our day to day lives the intentions of others take on significance—we often judge the individual actions of our friends and neighbors based at least partly on what we believe they were thinking at the time. But when you are talking policy and politics—about the behavior of vast numbers of people whose intentions and expectations are necessarily opaque to the rest of us—it is far more reliable to think about the incentives we are creating to achieve or discourage a given outcome.

Bono and U2 chose to move their publishing business when Ireland changed its laws in a way that would substantially increase their tax burden. It’s no surprise they did so—and even if they hadn’t, it was entirely predictable that some substantial number of similar actors would do so. Ireland made it more expensive to be an Ireland-based artist, and artists responded by changing their behavior. Decrying the “selfishness” and “hypocrisy” of the artists who did so is about as useful as complaining about the effects of gravity on our ability to flap our arms and fly.

It may be satisfying for a moment to smile at Bono’s apparent hypocrisy in having his business moved to Holland for tax purposes, but conservatives should resist the urge. Bono is doing exactly what free-market economists would predict. We should embrace his example to demonstrate to the economically illiterate the importance of having the right tax structures and incentives to ensure economic growth.

Oh, and that Nobel Peace Prize Bono was nominated for in 2005? It went to Muhammad Yunus, founder of the Grameen Bank, which pioneered the idea of extending micro-loans to individuals in poorer countries to help them start their own business. Yunus has done more to alleviate real poverty in the third world than any foreign aid program ever could. How? Yunus and the Grameen Bank have harnessed the power of the market to help individuals lift themselves out of poverty and build their own wealth--an important lesson on the power of incentives in the real world.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    if bono had any integrity he would politely decline that Queen's 'honour' so graciously bestowed upon him. i find it inappropriate that an Irishman could accept any knighthood, honorary or not. of course, it is not my call.
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  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    if bono had any integrity he would politely decline that Queen's 'honour' so graciously bestowed upon him. i find it inappropriate that an Irishman could accept any knighthood, honorary or not. of course, it is not my call.

    I see nothing wrong with Bono accepting an honorary knighthood from England. His work was directed to assisting the poor nations by taking on the G8, which England is a member. For England to recognize the dedication and work put forth by Bono is not only an honor to Bono, but should be looked upon as an honor to a son of Ireland. Try to see it and enjoy it as an Ireland moment, if only for a moment.

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  • As an American, I would never accept knighthood from Britain, but I'd still be thankful for the offer. Given Ireland's history with Britain, I would do the same if I was in Bono's shoes.

    Also, I find it hilarious that Bono encourages higher taxation for other people to pay for African Aid but refuses to pay excess taxes himself. Yet another example of business over bullshit. It really unearths the simple fact that an increase in foreign spending will not make a damn bit of difference for Africans. Through his own actions, Bono has stated it.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Also, I find it hilarious that Bono encourages higher taxation for other people to pay for African Aid

    Quotes please.
  • As an American, I would never accept knighthood from Britain, but I'd still be thankful for the offer. Given Ireland's history with Britain, I would do the same if I was in Bono's shoes.

    Also, I find it hilarious that Bono encourages higher taxation for other people to pay for African Aid but refuses to pay excess taxes himself. Yet another example of business over bullshit. It really unearths the simple fact that an increase in foreign spending will not make a damn bit of difference for Africans. Through his own actions, Bono has stated it.

    i don't think it's about him not wanting to pay excess taxes...or u2 ltd...it's about not paying excess taxes when none of that money is going to benefit things he believes in...
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  • i don't think it's about him not wanting to pay excess taxes...or u2 ltd...it's about not paying excess taxes when none of that money is going to benefit things he believes in...


    Good point, I'd also add that, some of the money may go towards things that are beneficial in Bono's view, but it doesn't actually acheive the end result it said it would. So, for example, although money's being spent on "educating the poor" maybe it's not getting the results Bono thinks he could achieve if he gave the money to private causes that he knows will "educate the poor" in a manner that he agrees with.
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907


    ... Also, I find it hilarious that Bono encourages higher taxation for other people to pay for African Aid but refuses to pay excess taxes himself. Yet another example of business over bullshit. It really unearths the simple fact that an increase in foreign spending will not make a damn bit of difference for Africans. Through his own actions, Bono has stated it.

    Oh please, Africa as a whole, is a prime example where foreign governments and corporations through privatization the world's most naturally rich resource countries, populations have become the poorest of the poor. They suffer under a fake democracy, republic or dictatorship with no voice. Their wage earning can not and do not support any type of national infrastructure, thus, they are forced as a country to borrow monies from the World Bank and the IMF. The very profits earned by these foreign governments and their corporations, off their resources, with no substantial funds going back into the country to build any type of national treasury. They sink deeper and deeper into debt without any relief or recourse. How is that almost an entire continent needs continuous world aid?

    It's too late for Putin to do anything about it, but he sees it happening in Russia. South America has been under this problem forever. Chevaz knows that through nationalization of some of his country's resources and services, he can continue to build a national treasury while allowing foreign corporations to do business in his country.

    Debt relief for any country is a far cry from being as simple as what a corporation pay in taxes. If that were the case, we'd be broke and taking orders from Saudi Arab and it's OPEC buddies. China would be a favored nation.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • desandrews wrote:
    Good point, I'd also add that, some of the money may go towards things that are beneficial in Bono's view, but it doesn't actually acheive the end result it said it would. So, for example, although money's being spent on "educating the poor" maybe it's not getting the results Bono thinks he could achieve if he gave the money to private causes that he knows will "educate the poor" in a manner that he agrees with.

    i agree...right now, where is the american tax money going? WAR! and, that sucks...i wish i could get around it somehow...
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    i agree...right now, where is the american tax money going? WAR! and, that sucks...i wish i could get around it somehow...

    Id rather it go to war than to help africa.
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  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    miller8966 wrote:
    Id rather it go to war than to help africa.

    Too bad your sights are not set on your own State and what redirected "war" funds could do to clean up the toxic waste dumps that have been left in your State (and around this entire nation) by all the dumping.

    It seems funny and cute to read "It came from New Jersey" and watch how everyone laughs it off and moves on. Yet, for fumes to travel that far and still cause people to get sick is an indication of a serious problem.

    But that's ok, we have a war to win.
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  • nuffingmannuffingman Posts: 3,014
    Yet another example of business over bullshit. It really unearths the simple fact that an increase in foreign spending will not make a damn bit of difference for Africans. Through his own actions, Bono has stated it.
    Bono = business + bullshit
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