Foley Resigns from Congress over e-mails

NakedClownNakedClown Posts: 545
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
This'll get interesting - someone must be holding something over his head, or there must be some damning evidence to just up-and-quit like this...


Foley resigns from Congress over e-mails By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent
4 minutes ago



Rep. Mark Foley (news, bio, voting record), R-Fla., resigned from Congress on Friday, effective immediately, in the wake of questions about e-mails he wrote a former male page.

"I am deeply sorry and I apologize for letting down my family and the people of Florida I have had the privilege to represent," he said in a statement issued by his office.

The two-sentence statement did not refer to the e-mails and gave no reason for Foley's decision to abruptly abandon a flourishing career in Congress.

Foley, 52, had been a shoo-in for a new term until the e-mail correspondence surfaced in recent days.

His resignation comes less than six weeks before the elections. It was not clear how Republicans would fill his spot on the November ballot.

Campaign aides had previously acknowledged that the Republican congressman e-mailed the former Capitol page five times, but had said there was nothing inappropriate about the exchange. The page was 16 at the time of the e-mail correspondence.

It was not clear what prompted Foley to abruptly decide to give up a successful career in the House.

Foley, who represents an area around Palm Beach County, e-mailed the page in August 2005. The page had worked for Rep. Rodney Alexander (news, bio, voting record), R-La., and Foley asked him how he was doing after Hurricane Katrina and what he wanted for his birthday. The congressman also asked the boy to send a photo of himself, according to excerpts of the e-mails that were originally released by ABC News.

Foley's aides initially blamed Democratic rival Tim Mahoney and Democrats with attempting to smear the congressman before the election.

The e-mails were posted Friday on Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington's Web site after ABC News reported their existence. The group asked the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct to investigate the exchange Foley had with the boy, who served as a page for Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La.

"The House of Representatives has an obligation to protect the teenagers who come to Congress to learn about the legislative process," the group wrote, adding that the committee, "must investigate any allegation that a page has been subjected to sexual advances by members of the House."
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    NakedClown wrote:
    Foley's aides initially blamed Democratic rival Tim Mahoney and Democrats with attempting to smear the congressman before the election.

    I don't care if it was dirty campaign tactics, or not. If he is a pedophile and is now exposed, that can only be a good thing. And if he isn't a pedophile, he shouldn't have dropped out so abruptly. Good riddance.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • What's the old saying? In politics, the only things you can't come back from are being found with either a dead girl or a live boy. Something like that.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • robbierobbie Posts: 883
    I dont understand why congressmen are not forced to resign when they sell their votes to the highest bidding corporation. but their personal life is somehow career suicide. it does not effect the residents of Florida or the United States if this guy is into his Paige. it does effect us when the nations best interest takes a back seat to a corporation's best interest. We are blatantly lied to day in and day out about matters as important as National security, war, civil liberties, and torture, and we take it, Rumsfeld is not resigning for actions that have a huge impact on the nation. he has shamed our reputation in the world, he has by EVERYONES account miss managed this war into a situation that costs our nation dearly in any number of ways, and he can keep his job, but someones personal life that has no such impact is cause for resignation and national shame? am i glad one more seat will be LOST from republican control on November 7th? YES, but he should be voted out for his record and support of this war, not because of something that is none of my business.
  • robbie wrote:
    I dont understand why congressmen are not forced to resign when they sell their votes to the highest bidding corporation. but their personal life is somehow career suicide. it does not effect the residents of Florida or the United States if this guy is into his Paige. it does effect us when the nations best interest takes a back seat to a corporation's best interest. We are blatantly lied to day in and day out about matters as important as National security, war, civil liberties, and torture, and we take it, Rumsfeld is not resigning for actions that have a huge impact on the nation. he has shamed our reputation in the world, he has by EVERYONES account miss managed this war into a situation that costs our nation dearly in any number of ways, and he can keep his job, but someones personal life that has no such impact is cause for resignation and national shame? am i glad one more seat will be LOST from republican control on November 7th? YES, but he should be voted out for his record and support of this war, not because of something that is none of my business.

    Dude - while I agree with you entirely, the page WAS A 16 YEAR OLD BOY!It's called child endangerment...

    That is our business and he should be thrown out on his ass IF he has done something improper...
  • OneLoveOneLove Posts: 563
    I think we only hold our elected officials to 1/2 of the accountability that they should be. I do not think it is too much to ask for elected officals to be law abiding citizens, and IF someone were to have made advances, or whatever, towards a 16 year old, that is Illegal. I do NOT want my representatives of gov't behaving that way. When you run for public office, you are subjected to public demand for decency, and this was a minor.

    That said, corporate curruption is just as bad, and as important, we should be holding our reps accountable.

    The congressman (if he did anything illegal), and Rumsfeld can ride to hell in the same handbasket for all I care. ;)
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    NakedClown wrote:
    This'll get interesting - someone must be holding something over his head, or there must be some damning evidence to just up-and-quit like this...
    Yeah, like he was having inapproriate contact with a 16 year old male page.
  • aNiMaL wrote:
    Yeah, like he was having inapproriate contact with a 16 year old male page.

    Obviously - but the article doesn't state exactly what was written/done...

    I'm refraining from making specific comments so I'm not labelled as a "leftist smear artist"...
  • wooHOO!...oOPS sorree but i couldn't quite refrain...~
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    the bad feelings 
    it's just me"


  • NakedClown wrote:
    Obviously - but the article doesn't state exactly what was written/done...

    I'm refraining from making specific comments so I'm not labelled as a "leftist smear artist"...

    Well, here's part of what he said:


    MaF54: What are ya wearing?

    Teen: Tshirt and shorts

    MaF54: Love to slip them off of ya.

    Ross goes on to say that the messages "become much graphic - too graphic to be broadcast" and gone on to describe internet sex.

    Later on Ross says that one page said his "entire class was warned about Foley from people involved in the program". Now if warnings were issued, then why was action never taken? Sounds like the leadership in Congress really needs to be asked some serious questions about this.
  • WOW - that is so much worse that I honestly imagined it could be...

    Where did you get this?
    Well, here's part of what he said:


    MaF54: What are ya wearing?

    Teen: Tshirt and shorts

    MaF54: Love to slip them off of ya.

    Ross goes on to say that the messages "become much graphic - too graphic to be broadcast" and gone on to describe internet sex.

    Later on Ross says that one page said his "entire class was warned about Foley from people involved in the program". Now if warnings were issued, then why was action never taken? Sounds like the leadership in Congress really needs to be asked some serious questions about this.
  • NakedClown wrote:
    WOW - that is so much worse that I honestly imagined it could be...

    Where did you get this?


    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/29/abc-news-releases-message-exchanges-between-foley-and-teens/
  • HOLY SHIT - I just read it over on the Drudge Report... goddamn:

    I'm quoting from there - and certainly not making this up (or vouching for its integrity):

    The honorable rep is Maf54... supposedly

    Maf54 (7:25:14 PM): hey
    Auto response from Xxxxxxxxx (7:25:14 PM): scrounging for food...brb
    Maf54 (7:25:25 PM): ok
    Maf54 (7:25:35 PM): kep scrounging
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:31:51 PM): boo
    Maf54 (7:32:13 PM): bo dude
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:32:17 PM): lol
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:32:26 PM): whered ya go this afternoon
    Maf54 (7:33:39 PM): i am in pensecola...had to catch a plane
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:33:47 PM): oh well thats fun
    Maf54 (7:34:04 PM): indeed
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:34:14 PM): what are you doing in pensecola
    Maf54 (7:34:21 PM): now in my hotel room
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:34:39 PM): well ..like why did you go there
    Maf54 (7:35:02 PM): for the campaign
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:35:29 PM): have you officialy announced yt
    Maf54 (7:35:45 PM): not yet
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:36:06 PM): cool cool...
    Maf54 (7:37:27 PM): how my favorite young stud doing
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:37:46 PM): tired and sore
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:37:52 PM): i didnt no waltzing could make you sore
    Maf54 (7:38:04 PM): from what
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:38:34 PM): what do you mean from what
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:38:42 PM): from waltzing...im sore from waltzing
    Maf54 (7:39:32 PM): tahts good
    Maf54 (7:39:32 PM): you need a massage
    Maf54 signed off at 7:39:37 PM.
    Maf54 signed on at 7:40:35 PM.
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:40:44 PM): got kicked off?
    Maf54 (7:41:24 PM): must have
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:41:57 PM): ugh tomorrow i have the first day of lacrosse practice
    Maf54 (7:42:27 PM): love to watch that
    Maf54 (7:42:33 PM): those great legs running
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:42:38 PM): haha...they arent great
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:42:45 PM): thats why we have conditioning
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:42:56 PM): 2 days running....3 days lifting
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:43:11 PM): every week
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:43:14 PM): until the end of march
    Maf54 (7:43:27 PM): well dont ruin my mental picture
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:43:32 PM): oh lol...sorry
    Maf54 (7:43:54 PM): nice
    Maf54 (7:43:54 PM): youll be way hot then
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:44:01 PM): haha...hopefully
    Maf54 (7:44:22 PM): better be
    Maf54 (7:46:01 PM): well I better let you go do oyur thing
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:07 PM): oh ok
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:11 PM): have fun campaigning
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:17 PM): or however you spell it
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:18 PM): lol
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:25 PM): ill see ya in a couple of weeks
    Maf54 (7:46:33 PM): did any girl give you a haand job this weekend
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:38 PM): lol no
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:40 PM): im single right now
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:57 PM): my last gf and i broke up a few weeks agi
    Maf54 (7:47:11 PM): are you
    Maf54 (7:47:11 PM): good so your getting horny
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:47:29 PM): lol...a bit
    Maf54 (7:48:00 PM): did you spank it this weekend yourself
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:04 PM): no
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:16 PM): been too tired and too busy
    Maf54 (7:48:33 PM): wow...
    Maf54 (7:48:34 PM): i am never to busy haha
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:51 PM): haha
    Maf54 (7:50:02 PM): or tired..helps me sleep
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:50:15 PM): thats true
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:50:36 PM): havent been having a problem with sleep though.. i just
    walk in the door and collapse well at least this weekend
    Maf54 (7:50:56 PM): i am sure
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:50:57 PM): i dont do it very often normally though
    Maf54 (7:51:11 PM): why not
    Maf54 (7:51:22 PM): at your age seems like it would be daily
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:51:57 PM): not me
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:01 PM): im not a horn dog
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:07 PM): maybe 2 or 3 times a week
    Maf54 (7:52:20 PM): thats a good number
    Maf54 (7:52:27 PM): in the shower
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:36 PM): actually usually i dont do it in the shower
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:42 PM): just cause i shower in the morning
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:47 PM): and quickly
    Maf54 (7:52:50 PM): in the bed
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:59 PM): i get up at 530 and am outta the house by 610
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:03 PM): eh ya
    Maf54 (7:53:24 PM): on your back
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:30 PM): no face down
    Maf54 (7:53:32 PM): love details
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:34 PM): lol
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:36 PM): i see that
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:37 PM): lol
    Maf54 (7:53:39 PM): really
    Maf54 (7:53:54 PM): do you really do it face down
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:54:03 PM): ya
    Maf54 (7:54:13 PM): kneeling
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:54:31 PM): well i dont use my hand...i use the bed itself
    Maf54 (7:54:31 PM): where do you unload it
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:54:36 PM): towel
    Maf54 (7:54:43 PM): really
    Maf54 (7:55:02 PM): completely naked?
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:55:12 PM): well ya
    Maf54 (7:55:21 PM): very nice
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:55:24 PM): lol
    Maf54 (7:55:51 PM): cute butt bouncing in the air
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:56:00 PM): haha
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:56:05 PM): well ive never watched myslef
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:56:08 PM): but ya i guess
    Maf54 (7:56:18 PM): i am sure not
    Maf54 (7:56:22 PM): hmmm
    Maf54 (7:56:30 PM): great visual
    Maf54 (7:56:39 PM): i may try that
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:56:43 PM): it works
    Maf54 (7:56:51 PM): hmm
    Maf54 (7:56:57 PM): sound inetersting
    Maf54 (7:57:05 PM): i always use lotion and the hand
    Maf54 (7:57:10 PM): but who knows
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:57:24 PM): i dont use lotion...takes too much time to clean up
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:57:37 PM): with a towel you can just wipe off....and go
    Maf54 (7:57:38 PM): lol
    Maf54 (7:57:45 PM): where do you throw the towel
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:57:48 PM): but you cant work it too hard....or its not good
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:57:51 PM): in the laundry
    Maf54 (7:58:16 PM): just kinda slow rubbing
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:58:23 PM): ya....
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:58:32 PM): or youll rub yourslef raw
    Maf54 (7:58:37 PM): well I have aa totally stiff wood now
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:58:40 PM): cause the towell isnt very soft
    Maf54 (7:58:44 PM): i bet..taht would hurt
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:58:50 PM): but you cn find something softer than a towell i guess
    Maf54 (7:58:59 PM): but it must feel great spirting on the towel
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:59:06 PM): ya
    Maf54 (7:59:29 PM): wow
    Maf54 (7:59:48 PM): is your little guy limp...or growing
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:59:54 PM): eh growing
    Maf54 (8:00:00 PM): hmm
    Maf54 (8:00:12 PM): so you got a stiff one now
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:00:19 PM): not that fast
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:00:20 PM): hey
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:00:32 PM): so you have a fetich
    Maf54 (8:00:32 PM): hey what
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:00:40 PM): fetish**
    Maf54 (8:00:43 PM): like
    Maf54 (8:00:53 PM): i like steamroom
    Maf54 (8:01:04 PM): whats yours
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:01:09 PM): its kinda weird
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:01:14 PM): lol
    Maf54 (8:01:21 PM): i am hard as a rock..so tell me when your reaches rock
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:01:23 PM): i have a cast fetish
    Maf54 (8:01:27 PM): well tell me
    Maf54 (8:01:32 PM): cast
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:01:44 PM): ya like...plaster cast
    Maf54 (8:01:49 PM): ok..so what happens
    Maf54 (8:01:58 PM): how does that turn you in
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:02 PM): i dont know
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:04 PM): it just does
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:08 PM): ive never had one
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:16 PM): but people that have them turn me on
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:27 PM): and if i had one it would probably turn me on
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:29 PM): beats me
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:32 PM): its kinda weird
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:50 PM): but along with that i like the whole catholic girl
    look....thats our schools uniform
    Maf54 (8:03:02 PM): ha thats wild
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:03:14 PM): ya but now im hard
    Maf54 (8:03:32 PM): me 2
    Maf54 (8:03:42 PM): cast got you going
    Maf54 (8:03:47 PM): what you wearing
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:04:04 PM): normal clothes
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:04:09 PM): tshirt and shorts
    Maf54 (8:04:17 PM): um so a big buldge
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:04:35 PM): ya
    Maf54 (8:04:45 PM): um
    Maf54 (8:04:58 PM): love to slip them off of you
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:05:08 PM): haha
    Maf54 (8:05:53 PM): and gram the one eyed snake
    Maf54 (8:06:13 PM): grab
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:06:53 PM): not tonight...dont get to excited
    Maf54 (8:07:12 PM): well your hard
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:07:45 PM): that is true
    Maf54 (8:08:03 PM): and a little horny
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:08:11 PM): and also tru
    Maf54 (8:08:31 PM): get a ruler and measure it for me
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:08:38 PM): ive already told you that
    Maf54 (8:08:47 PM): tell me again
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:08:49 PM): 7 and 1/2
    Maf54 (8:09:04 PM): ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    Maf54 (8:09:08 PM): beautiful
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:09:38 PM): lol
    Maf54 (8:09:44 PM): thats a great size
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:10:00 PM): thank you
    Maf54 (8:10:22 PM): still stiff
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:10:28 PM): ya
    Maf54 (8:10:40 PM): take it out
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:10:54 PM): brb...my mom is yelling
    Maf54 (8:11:06 PM): ok
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:14:02 PM): back
    Maf54 (8:14:37 PM): cool hope se didnt see any thing
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:14:54 PM): no no
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:14:59 PM): she is computer dumb though
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:15:01 PM): it makes me so mad
    Maf54 (8:15:04 PM): good
    Maf54 (8:15:08 PM): haha
    Maf54 (8:15:11 PM): why
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:15:23 PM): cause she cant do anything
    Maf54 (8:15:31 PM): oh well
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:15:41 PM): she couldnt figure out how to download a file from an
    email and open it
    Maf54 (8:15:53 PM): haha
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:16:14 PM): and she only does it like a million times a day
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:16:16 PM): oh well
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:16:18 PM): whatever
    Xxxxxxxxx (8:16:53 PM): well i better go finish my hw...i just found out from a
    friend that i have to finish reading and notating a book for AP english
    Maf54 signed off at 8:17:43
  • Well, lets see, we have a state Rep. who is, by his very position already in the spotlight. But on top of this he has a reputation for enaging in such inappropriate behavior. And still, he decides to send messages that could very easily be traced/monitored/scrutinized by authorities. Actually, fuck the authorities, the kid in question was forwarding the messages to his friends and other people for guidance b/c he thought they were "sick".

    This man should be sent to jail for sheer stupidity........
  • And the icing on the cake:

    In Congress, Rep. Foley (R-FL) was part of the Republican leadership and the chairman of the House caucus on missing and exploited children.

    He crusaded for tough laws against those who used the Internet for sexual exploitation of children.

    He may now be subject to some of the very laws he helped enact!!!!
  • What I found weird about it is that the kid doesn't sound intimidated. In fact, he seems to almost play along, which stands in stark contrast to his other statements to others about being freaked out by the Rep's advances and messages. That whole dialogue there was too much !!! Dude is up shit creek, fo sho.
  • I wonder if the kid set him up. knowing what would happen???

    How may people copy/paste and save an IM conversation?
  • NakedClown wrote:
    I wonder if the kid set him up. knowing what would happen???

    How may people copy/paste and save an IM conversation?

    Hey, anything for 2008
  • OneLoveOneLove Posts: 563
    What I found weird about it is that the kid doesn't sound intimidated. In fact, he seems to almost play along, which stands in stark contrast to his other statements to others about being freaked out by the Rep's advances and messages. That whole dialogue there was too much !!! Dude is up shit creek, fo sho.


    Not to read too much into this, but that is kind of how molestation works. Its a grooming process... and often kids don't know what to do in that situation, and play along, so it progresses. Hard to say what the kid was really feeling, but I am glad he spoke up regardless. Lord knows what else someone is capable of if they have a converstaion like this.
  • WMAWMA Posts: 175
    Ouch. Turns out that certain people in the Republican leadership knew about it for about a year, yet didn't do anything.

    Boehner originally said that he told Hastert about it. Hastert denied it, and Boehner called the newspaper reporter back to change his story.

    Later Congressional Committee Chairman Tom Reynolds said that he also told Hastert about it... Now Hastert is saying he "doesn't recall" being told about this matter.

    The Republican majority decided to vote against an investigation to see what the hell was going on with Foley not being turned in to the proper authorities 11 months ago.

    I suppose the investigation could clear anyone who is being falsely accused of covering it up though... unless they really did enable him.
  • WMA wrote:
    Ouch. Turns out that certain people in the Republican leadership knew about it for about a year, yet didn't do anything.

    Don't forget John Shimkus (R-IL). As the chairman of the House Page Board, he was privvy to this, too. Rodney Alexander (R-LA) told the Clerk of the House about the emails. The Clerk informed Shimkus. Shimkus talked to Foley and gave him a stern warning regarding his conduct with this page, ordering him to cease the emails. What Shimkus apparently DIDN'T do was inform any Democrat members of the Page Board, which is a bipartisan group. He also apparently didn't do any further investigation of the emails, and only now does he say that there was apparently more to it than Foley let on.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
    That IM might not have been copied and pasted. It could have been in cache

    "Maf54 (7:37:27 PM): how my favorite young stud doing
    Xxxxxxxxx (7:37:46 PM): tired and sore"

    That's so filthy :(
  • Heatherj43Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    NakedClown wrote:
    And the icing on the cake:

    In Congress, Rep. Foley (R-FL) was part of the Republican leadership and the chairman of the House caucus on missing and exploited children.

    He crusaded for tough laws against those who used the Internet for sexual exploitation of children.

    He may now be subject to some of the very laws he helped enact!!!!
    I heard about this part of this guy's career today and found it par for the course.
    I hope criminal charges are pressed using the exact law he helped enact!
    Save room for dessert!
  • robbierobbie Posts: 883
    i stand by my original statement. as offensive as this e-mail is, i am still FAR more offended by legislation being passed in favor of oil companies, HMO's, insurance companies, and weapons contractors. I am DEFINATLY more offended by the actions of donald rumsfeld than anything this pervert can write in an e-mail. i am not excusing his actions, im just confused as to why they are more important to the american public than issues that actually effect our nation.
  • enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
    Hey Robbie,

    I'm with you on rumsfeld, and have a question. How is it that this "man" has become so untouchable? He has certainly done some horrible things, and IMO, if Saddam is on trial, Rumsfeld should be right there next to him being tried as an accessory...so why is it that with all of the evil this guy has done, he is still allowed to hold one of the most powerful positions in american government?
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