Gore greening his house

farfromglorified
farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
edited April 2007 in A Moving Train
Since I was so vociferous in chiding Al Gore for his electricity bill, I thought it would be only fair to post this:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/18/gore.home.improvement.ap/index.html
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    cnn wrote:
    The city of Belle Meade, Tennessee, had blocked his application until new rules were approved unanimously late Tuesday, said Gore spokesman Chris Song. The city, located within metropolitan Nashville, said the panels must be placed in areas where they can't be seen by neighbors.

    So in Nashville, you can only save the environment if no one can see it...............:rolleyes:
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    the panels must be placed in areas where they can't be seen by neighbors.


    this is so sad ...

    retrofitting a home is much more eco-friendly than building a new one ... his footprint is still gargantuan compared to the average folk but he compensates in other ways ...
  • DeLukin
    DeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Interesting that this happened only after people noted his hypocrisy. Seems to me that it should've been done a long time ago if his motives were pure...
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    DeLukin wrote:
    Interesting that this happened only after people noted his hypocrisy. Seems to me that it should've been done a long time ago if his motives were pure...

    Well from what the article states local zoning laws where making it difficult for him to do so.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    DeLukin wrote:
    Interesting that this happened only after people noted his hypocrisy. Seems to me that it should've been done a long time ago if his motives were pure...

    If you read carefully it says "The city of Belle Meade, Tennessee, had blocked his application until new rules were approved unanimously " and that he bought that home in 2002. It doesn't say when he started greening his house.
  • DeLukin
    DeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Kann wrote:
    If you read carefully it says "The city of Belle Meade, Tennessee, had blocked his application until new rules were approved unanimously " and that he bought that home in 2002. It doesn't say when he started greening his house.

    My money's on the fact that it came AFTER the bad press:

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MzhkNDdmZmUyZjU1MmVlZmQ0MGEyYjJhMGU0ODI2M2E=
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • rybes
    rybes Posts: 136
    Hypocrite or not, at least he is trying. For which he gets some kudos in my opinion.
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Regardless AT LEAST he is making changes...people should stop harping on him and show some disgust for the city...thumbs down...anyhow I am going to see Al Gore speak in good ol' Regina Saskatchewan this Monday.....going to be very interesting...anyone else seen him speak before (concerning climate change?)
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    they were scalping tickets here to see him ...

    anyways - every good environmentalist has to accept criticisms ... it's much easier for people to harp on the hypocrisies then actually look at themselves ... people rather spend energy trying to shoot gore down then actually doing something themselves ...
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    polaris wrote:
    they were scalping tickets here to see him ...

    anyways - every good environmentalist has to accept criticisms ... it's much easier for people to harp on the hypocrisies then actually look at themselves ... people rather spend energy trying to shoot gore down then actually doing something themselves ...

    I 100% agree....the key thing is that he is DOING something....while 90% of those bitching about him sit on their ass twidling their thumbs doing nothing....
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    polaris wrote:
    they were scalping tickets here to see him ...

    quote]

    Did you go see him?

    Was it a pretty good talk?
  • DeLukin
    DeLukin Posts: 2,757
    I guess my beef with Gore is that he seems less an "environmentalist" and more an "oppoutunist" and his actions seem to back that up. Remember, the guy's a POLITICIAN. While your plunking down your money to listen to him ask yourself what his motives really could be if he made a movie, accepted an Oscar and THEN took steps to make his own home greener AFTER he got bad press. I'm not a hater, I just hate feeling like I've been manipulated.
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    polaris wrote:
    they were scalping tickets here to see him ...

    quote]

    Did you go see him?

    Was it a pretty good talk?

    nope ... his talk is the same as the movie ... you won't necessarily get any more out of it ...

    at least that's what i heard ...
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    DeLukin wrote:
    I guess my beef with Gore is that he seems less an "environmentalist" and more an "oppoutunist" and his actions seem to back that up. Remember, the guy's a POLITICIAN. While your plunking down your money to listen to him ask yourself what his motives really could be if he made a movie, accepted an Oscar and THEN took steps to make his own home greener AFTER he got bad press. I'm not a hater, I just hate feeling like I've been manipulated.

    but, all you have are preconceived notions ... everyone is motivated by different things ... al gore has done more for the environment movement then anyone on the planet right now ... some may want to nitpick by how he's done it ... but he has done it ...

    in all honesty - if bad press made him make his renos - GREAT i say ... isn't that partly what the press is supposed to do ... hold people accountable?? ...
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    DeLukin wrote:
    I guess my beef with Gore is that he seems less an "environmentalist" and more an "oppoutunist" and his actions seem to back that up. Remember, the guy's a POLITICIAN. While your plunking down your money to listen to him ask yourself what his motives really could be if he made a movie, accepted an Oscar and THEN took steps to make his own home greener AFTER he got bad press. I'm not a hater, I just hate feeling like I've been manipulated.

    We have all been in situations where we do not live up to the standard of what we want to obtain (I know I have in many aspects of life)....

    My point being at least he is owning up to it....plus I give him credit for getting the word out...regardless of your belief in climate change...the facts he shows are pretty horrifying and ones the nay-sayers seem to avoid.....I give him kudos for giving enviromentalism some main stream attention...that to me is a great feat...stop the steretypical "tree-hugger hippie" environmentalist out-look that some people want people to preceive and push the issue into the main stream.

    Yes is it somewhat bothersome that the changes did occur after....however does it not bug you just a little bit more that the city is making it very difficult to go forward...that to me disgusts me much more.....
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    polaris wrote:
    but, all you have are preconceived notions ... everyone is motivated by different things ... al gore has done more for the environment movement then anyone on the planet right now ... some may want to nitpick by how he's done it ... but he has done it ...

    in all honesty - if bad press made him make his renos - GREAT i say ... isn't that partly what the press is supposed to do ... hold people accountable?? ...

    Funny they hold an individual trying to do some good accountable (which is great do not get me wrong) but yet their are many more powerful individuals doing far from ideal things, who can do anything they want and all accounability is thrown out the window with no questions asked....another disturbing trend I see in the current media.....
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    DeLukin wrote:
    I guess my beef with Gore is that he seems less an "environmentalist" and more an "oppoutunist" and his actions seem to back that up. Remember, the guy's a POLITICIAN. While your plunking down your money to listen to him ask yourself what his motives really could be if he made a movie, accepted an Oscar and THEN took steps to make his own home greener AFTER he got bad press. I'm not a hater, I just hate feeling like I've been manipulated.

    that's on you...

    it seems you are more upset with the messenger, thus ignoring the message...
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    inmytree wrote:
    that's on you...

    it seems you are more upset with the messenger, thus ignoring the message...

    If this was really a problem on this board, then most on this thread talking about Al Gore in such a positive light would at least find it within themselves to give Bush the same kind of praise for having a much more environment friendly home than Gore.

    That press was terrible for Gore though. It was like an anti drug counselor telling others not to do drugs while borrowing their lighter to light his crack pipe.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    zstillings wrote:
    If this was really a problem on this board, then most on this thread talking about Al Gore in such a positive light would at least find it within themselves to give Bush the same kind of praise for having a much more environment friendly home than Gore.

    That press was terrible for Gore though. It was like an anti drug counselor telling others not to do drugs while borrowing their lighter to light his crack pipe.

    well, if bush has an environmentally friendly home, I say good for him...
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    zstillings wrote:
    If this was really a problem on this board, then most on this thread talking about Al Gore in such a positive light would at least find it within themselves to give Bush the same kind of praise for having a much more environment friendly home than Gore.

    That press was terrible for Gore though. It was like an anti drug counselor telling others not to do drugs while borrowing their lighter to light his crack pipe.

    Although Bush's environmental policy is at best shitty.....if he has a good environmentally friendly good on him I say...my point Gore has done good by spreading the word and has now been held accountable....but it is disturbing that cities are trying to make environmentally friendly options hard to obtain....

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