Obama Loss

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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,410
    I hope that, as long as the election is seen as "fair," we'll be OK. Remember 2000, hanging chads, etc.? We can't go through that shit again. That shit might be catastrophic.

    So.......to anyone who might try to "steal" this election: DON'T!!!!
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • imalive wrote:
    So.......to anyone who might try to "steal" this election: DON'T!!!!

    Or try to download the election illegally!

    Oh, wait, wrong thread. Sorry.
  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Who is this generalizing about?

    Anyway, the whole thread is about speculating how people you don't know are going to feel about something that may or may not happen, right?


    In response to the question, as blackredyellow mentioned earlier, if Obama goes out Gore style than I think we're going to see some shit go down. White people, black people, it wouldn't be a racial thing.

    At the same time, I don't think many people are viewing this election as a referendum on race, so if he loses fair and square, I can't see too much action for that reason. I think it will be very comparable to the climate after Kerry's failed campaign.


    The original poster implies that Black People will Riot if Obama Loses.
    Now tell me if this is a generalization or not?
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    saveuplife wrote:
    No. I know you are pro-Obama; that's great. This thread wasn't criticizing anything about him. It was simply meant to ask a sincere real question. We saw what happened with Rodney King and with OJ ect. Obviously, this is different. But, this election is more than an election to a large amount of African Americans. That's the point. It is still just an election, not a referendum on race. It should be about issues, not color.
    You see it this way cause your white...if you were black you'd have a totally different perspective.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    The original poster implies that Black People will Riot if Obama Loses.
    Now tell me if this is a generalization or not?

    He never said black people.
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  • Gonzo1977 wrote:
    The original poster implys that Black People will Riot if Obama Loses.
    How the fuck do you know Black People will Riot?

    Well, I don't think anyone "knows" anything.

    At the same time, I don't think the OP was thinking all black people would riot. Every race, every group, has its share of violent wing-nuts...Anyway you break up a large group of people with no ideological ties, but rather arbitrary ties such as skin color, you can be sure there are a few lunatics. So, I guess to that extent there is a generalization--but a generalization that can be made about any group.

    So, the question to me seemed, will anyone rise up if Obama loses?
  • mammasan wrote:
    He never said black people.

    In fairness, it does say "race riot."
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    In fairness, it does say "race riot."

    I totally missed that. Thanks for pointing it out.
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  • saveuplife
    saveuplife Posts: 1,173
    In a way, you are all right. It was a generalization... but, it was not only phrased as a question... it also had the label "hypothetical" attached to it and it was searching for opinions on the subject.

    I don't know what more one can do. I feel like the "race" issue (at least on this board) is getting way too much press.

    I could not care less if Obama was black, red, yellow, purple. I care about his policies... and this thread doesn't have anything to do with policies or even Obama. It has to do with a segment of his supporters.

    In this case, I was stating that I believe a segment of his supporters (yes, this segment is African American) may be upset if he loses. Why? Well, he would "have" been the first Afriance American President for one. Secondly, African Americans have gotten upset by racial issues in the past (LA riots, OJ). They were different obviously (rulings instead of elections), but the scale and nature of this is much much bigger.

    I don't think there's anything wrong with pondering "what could happen" with all of these factors in play. If you do, oh well.
  • saveuplife wrote:
    This is a hypothetical...

    If Obama losses, would there be race riots?

    I think there would. Honestly, that bothers me.

    Thanks for sharing everything, but give me a break!

    a supremely dumb fucking thread.
  • saveuplife
    saveuplife Posts: 1,173
    Thanks for sharing everything, but give me a break!

    a supremely dumb fucking thread.


    Why?
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Thanks for sharing everything, but give me a break!

    a supremely dumb fucking thread.

    Maybe it's a dumb thread, maybe not. But it's getting people to talk, that's the key, let's see how it turns out...but you know, even the worst of threads have become great threads due to great posts, even a single one, too bad your post could not be that one, you just added to whatever was perhaps bad about it.
  • saveuplife wrote:
    Why?

    In my opinion, intended or not, It's staight up racist.

    you are (possibly unintentionally) implying that the african american community has no other way to express dissapointment than to riot.

    I'm more likely to riot...

    and I'm white.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Thanks for sharing everything, but give me a break!

    a supremely dumb fucking thread.

    This thread brings up a good point. You amy not agree with the way in which it was presented but that doesn't diminish the fact that it is a real possibility that riots may erupt if people feel that they where cheated.
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  • In my opinion, intended or not, It's staight up racist.

    you are (possibly unintentionally) implying that the african american community has no other way to express dissapointment than to riot.

    I'm more likely to riot...

    and I'm white.


    Everytime The Red Sox go the the World Series or the Pats to the Super Bowl, Boston has to equip the riot brigade amongnst the Colleges in Boston. I do not believe this guy is trying to be racist by posting this. The fact is the majority of people that are going to be voting for Obama this election are members of the younger generations. It's how they choose to celebrate and how to vent their frustration. A sad truth nowadays. I mean i'm not saying every Obama/McCain supporter is going to want to riot. I'm just saying if it can happen with baseball it can happen with America.
  • mammasan wrote:
    This thread brings up a good point. You may not agree with the way in which it was presented but that doesn't diminish the fact that it is a real possibility that riots may erupt if people feel that they where cheated.

    I always think the best of people until they give me a reason not to.

    even bringing it up before the fact is racist, plain and simple.
  • Everytime The Red Sox go the the World Series or the Pats to the Super Bowl, Boston has to equip the riot brigade amongnst the Colleges in Boston. I do not believe this guy is trying to be racist by posting this. The fact is the majority of people that are going to be voting for Obama this election are members of the younger generations. It's how they choose to celebrate and how to vent their frustration. A sad truth nowadays. I mean i'm not saying every Obama/McCain supporter is going to want to riot. I'm just saying if it can happen with baseball it can happen with America.

    I'm sorry you see it that way.

    oh. and behind Philly, Boston sports fans are the worst sports fans in the solar system.

    flame on bitches!
  • saveuplife
    saveuplife Posts: 1,173
    I always think the best of people until they give me a reason not to.

    even bringing it up before the fact is racist, plain and simple.


    Asking how the African American community would respond to an Obama loss is racist?
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    I always think the best of people until they give me a reason not to.

    even bringing it up before the fact is racist, plain and simple.

    It's a real possibility so no it's not racist. People have rioted for less.
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  • I'm sorry you see it that way.

    oh. and behind Philly, Boston sports fans are the worst sports fans in the solar system.

    flame on bitches!

    I'm sorry...I didn't realize that being a die hard fan of teams that sucked for 86 years because you actually have a little trait called loyalty is called being the worst group of fans. Man do I feel like an idiot. You only hate us because we win. It's ok. I get it. I hate the Yankees 'cause they use to win all the time too. Now I could give two shits about the guys.