Debate Zingers...

saveuplife

This was one of the best lines of the debate IMO...

Palin: Now, you said regarding Sen. McCain's military policies there, Sen. Biden, that you supported a lot of these things. In fact, you said in fact that you wanted to run, you'd be honored to run with him on the ticket. That's an indication I think of some of the support that you had at least until you became the VP pick here.

...what were your favorite lines?

BinFrog

How is that a zinger?

mammasan

I really didn't see any zingers from either candidate.

saveuplife

BinFrog wrote:

How is that a zinger?

Well, it points out that the Democratic nominee for VP thought so much of the Republican nominee for President that he said he would consider him for his running mate.

Personally, I did not know that.... and I'm betting a large amount of people watching did not as well. Therefore, I thought it was a good line. It was timed well and made a good point.

inmytree

"And I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear..."

and who the hell is "joe sixpack"....?

CHANGEinWAVES

inmytree wrote:

"And I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear..."

and who the hell is "joe sixpack"....?

EXACTLY!
I guess in her world ALL american women are pit bull hockey moms and ALL american men are beer drinkin joes....can't middle class people just be considered hard working and intelligent and not have to have a slogan attached to them!?

inmytree

IFILL: Governor, are you interested in defending Senator McCain's health care plan?

PALIN: I am because he's got a good health care plan that is detailed. And I want to give you a couple details on that. He's proposing a $5,000 tax credit for families so that they can get out there and they can purchase their own health care coverage. That's a smart thing to do. That's budget neutral. That doesn't cost the government anything as opposed to Barack Obama's plan to mandate health care coverage and have universal government run program and unless you're pleased with the way the federal government has been running anything lately, I don't think that it's going to be real pleasing for Americans to consider health care being taken over by the feds. But a $5,000 health care credit through our income tax that's budget neutral. That's going to help. And he also wants to erase those artificial lines between states so that through competition, we can cross state lines and if there's a better plan offered somewhere else, we would be able to purchase that. So affordability and accessibility will be the keys there with that $5,000 tax credit also being offered.

IFILL: Thank you, governor. Senator?

BIDEN: Gwen, I don't know where to start. We don't call a redistribution in my neighborhood Scranton, Claymont, Wilmington, the places I grew up, to give the fair to say that not giving Exxon Mobil another $4 billion tax cut this year as John calls for and giving it to middle class people to be able to pay to get their kids to college, we don't call that redistribution. We call that fairness number one. Number two fact, 95 percent of the small businesses in America, their owners make less than $250,000 a year. They would not get one single solitary penny increase in taxes, those small businesses.

BIDEN: Now, with regard to the -- to the health care plan, you know, it's with one hand you giveth, the other you take it. You know how Barack Obama -- excuse me, do you know how John McCain pays for his $5,000 tax credit you're going to get, a family will get?

He taxes as income every one of you out there, every one of you listening who has a health care plan through your employer. That's how he raises $3.6 trillion, on your -- taxing your health care benefit to give you a $5,000 plan, which his Web site points out will go straight to the insurance company.

And then you're going to have to replace a $12,000 -- that's the average cost of the plan you get through your employer -- it costs $12,000. You're going to have to pay -- replace a $12,000 plan, because 20 million of you are going to be dropped. Twenty million of you will be dropped.

So you're going to have to place -- replace a $12,000 plan with a $5,000 check you just give to the insurance company. I call that the "Ultimate Bridge to Nowhere."

Steve Dunne

"Oh, say it ain't so Joe"...her accent kills me.

mammasan

The only thing that really stuck in my head was Palin's response to the VP question. The fact that she doesn't believe that the VP is part of the executive branch is unbelievable. That is Dick Cheney thinking and regardless of how well she performed that completely proves to me that this woman is not right for the job.

YieldInHiding

PEPPER wrote:

Something along the lines of not knowing what a VP does and Joe not wanting to be a VP...hers was a jokes and I guess his was a joke also because no one got it...white flag of surrender = Obama

"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

g under p

mammasan wrote:

The only thing that really stuck in my head was Palin's response to the VP question. The fact that she doesn't believe that the VP is part of the executive branch is unbelievable. That is Dick Cheney thinking and regardless of how well she performed that completely proves to me that this woman is not right for the job.

I thought it was best said by Biden when he spoke of Cheney being the worst VP ever was the best comment and the most honest one. Scary that Palin wants more powers to the VP position and with those powers "to do what exactly?"

Peace

mammasan

g under p wrote:

I thought it was best said by Biden when he spoke of Cheney being the worst VP ever was the best comment and the most honest one. Scary that Palin wants more powers to the VP position and with those powers "to do what exactly?"

Peace

I don't mind more responsibility being given to the VP or even more power with in the administration. What scares me is this notion that the VP is outside the Executive branch and in some limbo between the Executive and Legislative branch. This is a very dangerous mindset because the VP would them be outside and rules associated with either branch. It is an afront to the Constitution to even believe that to be the case.

Gremmie95

I don't know about it being a "zinger", but one thing Palin hit on the head was Biden constantley pointing to the current administration. He focused too much on the past and not enough on the future.

mammasan

Gremmie95 wrote:

I don't know about it being a "zinger", but one thing Palin hit on the head was Biden constantley pointing to the current administration. He focused too much on the past and not enough on the future.

He did, but I think he was trying to link McCain to the Bush administration. he tried a bit to hard but it was a good tactic as polls show that McCain is having a hard time separating himself from the Bush administration.

inmytree

Gremmie95 wrote:

I don't know about it being a "zinger", but one thing Palin hit on the head was Biden constantley pointing to the current administration. He focused too much on the past and not enough on the future.

and yet, she talked about "experience", which is in the past....I guess it's only ok to talk about the past if it's good for her...

YieldInHiding

mammasan wrote:

He did, but I think he was trying to link McCain to the Bush administration. he tried a bit to hard but it was a good tactic as polls show that McCain is having a hard time separating himself from the Bush administration.

It also showed he has EXPERIENCE dealing with issues. That's why you talk about the past. She can't talk about anything in the past because she hasn't fucking done a THING.

MrBrian

I think the best zinger was from the moderator. After the first question she said to both Palin and biden, "None of you answered the question" zinnnng!

inmytree

"And how long have I been at this, like five weeks? "

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Gremmie95 wrote:

I don't know about it being a "zinger", but one thing Palin hit on the head was Biden constantley pointing to the current administration. He focused too much on the past and not enough on the future.

"Past is prologue."

inmytree

BIDEN: Well, mortgage-holders didn't pay the price. Only 10 percent of the people who are -- have been affected by this whole switch from Chapter 7 to Chapter 13 -- it gets complicated.

But the point of this -- Barack Obama saw the glass as half- empty. I saw it as half-full. We disagreed on that, and 85 senators voted one way, and 15 voted the other way.

But here's the deal. Barack Obama pointed out two years ago that there was a subprime mortgage crisis and wrote to the secretary of Treasury. And he said, "You'd better get on the stick here. You'd better look at it."

John McCain said as early as last December, quote -- I'm paraphrasing -- "I'm surprised about this subprime mortgage crisis," number one.

Number two, with regard to bankruptcy now, Gwen, what we should be doing now -- and Barack Obama and I support it -- we should be allowing bankruptcy courts to be able to re-adjust not just the interest rate you're paying on your mortgage to be able to stay in your home, but be able to adjust the principal that you owe, the principal that you owe.

That would keep people in their homes, actually help banks by keeping it from going under. But John McCain, as I understand it -- I'm not sure of this, but I believe John McCain and the governor don't support that. There are ways to help people now. And there -- ways that we're offering are not being supported by -- by the Bush administration nor do I believe by John McCain and Governor Palin.

IFILL: Governor Palin, is that so?

PALIN: That is not so, but because that's just a quick answer, I want to talk about, again, my record on energy versus your ticket's energy ticket, also.

saveuplife

MrBrian wrote:

I think the best zinger was from the moderator. After the first question she said to both Palin and biden, "None of you answered the question" zinnnng!

I liked that as well, actually. She was dead-on.