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...Uh oh, now Lindsey Lohan is talking smack on Palin. I'm sure McCain wasn't able to sleep after hearing this...
http://www.showbizspy.com/showbiz/09142008/Lindsay-Lohan-Lashes-Out-at-Sarah-Palin
http://www.showbizspy.com/showbiz/09142008/Lindsay-Lohan-Lashes-Out-at-Sarah-Palin
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was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
I think they are hysterical. That's all.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Agreed. She's 100% allowed to speak her mind. I don't think anyone would disagree with you there.
That said, I think it would be smart for some celebrities to keep their mouths shut because by voicing their opinions they may actually hurt the cause that they are trying to help.
I just don't think that's true. It may not be particularly helpful, but I think it's pretty innocuous. It's a non-issue.
I think it provides fodder for people who are already against the candidate a certain celebrity supports. But, I really don't think people are going to say "oh shit, I'm not voting for the same person Lindsay Lohan supports. She sucks!"
But if you enjoy laughing about it, have fun.
They are both largely popular because they are able to get large masses of people to "vote" for them be it with thier dollars or their support. The bulk of thier success comes from thier "name" which is driven by hype machines in the media or by writing books or by having a good publicist or by having a few GREAT speech writers write speeches that they read off the teleprompter.
Image is far more important to the average person than is content.
People are already divided into teams and there are cliques inside those teams in the end this is no different or more worthwhile than electing a high school class president.
No matter who it is or what they do, the movers and shakers are going to have to find a way to adapt and live within the system. That's part of the reason for "black" markets in the first place.
An incredibly interesting documentary would be secretly filming politicians daily lives.... That's a movie I'd love to watch.
I disagree...anytime someone who obviously lives a very special life and is out of touch with the realities of life in middle america speaks, it pisses people off and energizes them to vote the other way. They don't want to be associated with that nonsense.
At this point I don't think it matters what celebrities say. The mainstream media, with some exceptions, have pretty much crowned Palin as Prom Queen. They have made our decision for us. I'm sure there are celebrities out there that support the McCain/Palin ticket and speak their mind, but the media will not focus on them. The media will only focus on the liberal celebrities. I truly believe that this election has been decided for us. As an example Palin and Rudy made, what I and many others thought where inappropriate remarks about community organizers. I know what they where trying to do but the manner in which they did it was all off. They get a free pass. The media doesn't even touch it. Obama makes a comment that can be misconstrued as a sexist insult but the media jumps all over him. Even after he explains himself the media is still on him. This election was decided already and to all you Obama supporters the sooner you accept this the easier it will be on you come November.
The very candidates running are out of touch with middle America and middle America doesn't seem to mind.
Sure they do...haven't you seen the hoopla over Sarah Palin?
Come she is a media darling. She has become the conservative version of Jackie Kennedy. Middle American has fallen in love with Sarah Palin with mainstream media working as her PR firm.
This is funnier than anything Lindsay Lohan has ever said. I really, really hope you were being ironic on purpose.
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Continue to think that way, the people running the Dem presidential bids the last couple of times sure have...look how well they did.
I'm not saying it's what I think...but I am saying that I think this happens.
I, personally hat eit when Lindsey Lohan talks abotu anything really.
I spent all but the last 20 months of my life in middle america, and I disagree. The cultural divide between "middle america" and the coasts, at least where the obsession/admiration with celebrities is concerned, is not that great. It's certainly not as great as the media would like to imply that it is.
I understand why you think that. But, I disagree. I do not think that anyone will vote one way strictly because Lindsey Lohan says she's doing something. However, I do think that celebs consistently standing on their soap boxes telling Middle America their opinions, will bother a large amount in Middle America. And thereby energizes the Republican base. ON the margin, I do certainly believe that it makes Republicans more likely to vote. I don't think liberals will ever truly understand this.
It's actually very interesting. My wife and I were talking about politics on our ride home from a party last night. We went to a party and somehow politics became a topic of discussion. A few of the Democrats started telling everyone how they are voting for Obama ect. Then they went around the room asking who everyone was voting for and why. A large amount of people refused to answer. My wife and I did as well. Anyway, on the way home my wife said that Dems tend to be much more outspoken. Her opinion was that the Democratic platform is much more easy to defend in a one minute speech. She then went on to say that the Republican platform is somewhat complicated and hard to explain quickly. Not only that. Conservatives tend to be "conservative" in bringing things up. The bottom line is that conservatives were probably very very turned off by what those few Obama supporters were doing at that party. They don't want to get into a lenghty debate on politics at a party... it's awkward (that's the conservative approach). That said, a couple of chance encounters like that, may make someone turned off enough to get up off the couch on election day. The key is, I don't think anyone changes their minds by stuff like this. I think people get up and vote. That's the difference. The getting up and voting.
when even lindsay lohan can see through you, you are in trouble.
you mean like all the billionaire executives supporting the republicans or john-i-have-so-many-houses-i-can't-keep-track-of-them-all- mccain?
I'll disagree with this generalization. This time around it may be the case, but that is probably because after the last 8 years, the republican party really doesn't seem to have any issues working in their favor. This time around they are pretty much down to "reform", and stealing the "change" slogan.
But in general, since the mid 90's the republican party (with the help of people like Karl Rove) has done an incredible job of turning every issue into three world slogans or soundbytes, mostly framing issues into patriotic terms.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
you're right, it's much better to ignore things that make us uncomfortable and push them into a closet... like homosexuals or the failure of this administration's foreign policy.
"You interrupt me from a friendly conversation
To tell me how great it’s all going to be
You might notice some hesitation
'cause its important to you, it’s not important to me"
-Jack Johnson
Sums it up pretty well.
glad i'm not the only one that caught that.
nothing like bullheaded ignorance. reminds me of a boston legal episode:
in response to someone expressing concern that the wonderful wildlife at their resort may not last much longer, denny crane replies "i'm here to enjoy nature! don't talk to me about the environment."
for the record, there is nothing more simplistic (or should i say simple-minded) than the republican platform. jesus is good, everyone else is immoral. the usa is always right and good, anyone that disagrees with us is a terrorist. taxes are always bad, i don't care what necessary things they fund, unless it's to buy weapons in which case any and all increases are acceptable. the dems have the complicated and nuanced platform, which is why you see people bitching about kerry being a flip-flopper and obama not having any stances. because they don't understand someone who can recognize the merits of opposing positions and adopt a nuanced stance in the middle... it forces them to think harder than they want. they'd rather drink cocktails and plot affairs without being bothered with any responsibility for the country their children will inherit.