Will the Dems live to their words? Iraq funds/troops
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Will Bush get his 25,000 troops and $7 billion...or will a Democrat controlled Congress back up the rhetoric they've been shouting for the past few years by blocking this?
I bet Georgie gets some troops and funds.
I bet Georgie gets some troops and funds.
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i find it funny that the majority of citizens and members of congress want us out of iraq, but the president is escalating and is not paying attention to the baker hamilton group.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
people will say anything to get elected.
i'm sure there will be a few of them that get in front of a camera and act mad and talk tough, but like i said, i'd be shocked if they do anything to thwart the escalation.
who's putting the pressure on them to do so? until there's a few million people screaming on the steps of capital hill, i doubt we're going to see any drastic changes in the course we're on.
I think what tonight's speech really addresses is aimed at the inevitable failure of the Bush-American war campaign, and future debates on Iraq. In other words, while this escalation may be thwarted by Congress, the Bush faithful Republicans in years to come will point to this President's proposal tonight and say "what if?" They are still in denial, and will be in denial of the civil war that is the root of the disunity.
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what's amazing is that people like you are in denial of the state of the world as it actually exists. you look at everything through a prism filtered by opinions of george w. bush instead of looking objectively at the real world, where we are, and how to deal with it. take the ideological blinders off, step back, and see where we are.
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People like me. Hmmm. I made a realistic determination on Bush's speech, so it's apt to be about...Bush's speech.
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Also, I'm willing to bet that anything contained in Bush's speech tonight has already been discussed with Dem leadership prior to making the speech public. In other words, this was a pre-approved message.
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The Democrats may have to cut off funding. I don't think they'll do it right now, but in a few months time, if nothing's changed, people will demand it. My bet is, people will demand it.
this is ridiculous...it's not about the number of troops...it's the mission...the objective...that matters...if the troops there aren't sent to do the right thing then it doesn't matter many troops are there. this "war" has been sissy-fought (i don't want to offend anyone here, but that's what it has been) for TOO LONG. i've talked with too many people that talked about the stuff that doesn't happen there. it's disgusting. if they're not going to do this RIGHT then they shouldn't have done it at all. so, i say, get able-bodied troops in there and have the plan administered intelligently, and this will work.
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It was. The only Dems that countered Bush (Ted Kennedy, maybe a couple others) were outnumbered by the Dems who consider upcoming possible votes more important than issues. Pretty sickening when it's obvious that the people who voted them in are the ones who want OUT of Iraq!! Talk about not listening to the people!
It's tough to watch. They could convene a vote on the matter, I believe. They are playing their political cards, of course, in order to keep their hands clean of the election-time rhetoric to come with the Iraq blame game that is sure to be a part of it.
In a way, now, it's all on George.
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But how do you intelligently administer a plan that was a terrible idea in the first place? The sides in this sectarian violence have been at each other since the 14th century. Short of bombing the entire bahgdad area to rubble and killing everyone (which would create more people pissed off at us and not completely stop the sectarian violence anyway), there is no way that we can end this centuries old battle in a few years. Anyone who still thinks that at this point is in fantasy land.
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of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
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