Info on wm3 i found
miller8966
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I really dont know much about the case besides watching the first paradise lost documentary. Anyhow i was on a mixed martial arts forums general ground where the case came up. Ill post some info on what this guy, who is close to Mark Byers posted.
"The same police officers coerced an error-filled confession from Jessie Misskelley Jr., who is mentally handicapped."
Jessie Misskelley confessed to this crime four times. There is audio of his February Confession. What's interesting about this confession is that his own defense atty's where present when he gave this confession..
Prior to this confession, Dan Stidham had an hour long meeting with Jessie. During this meeting, Dan ran out of the room and demanded a bible. He was heard saying..
"I don't know what to do now"...
Jessie Misskelley is not mentally handicapped. He was never diagnosed as being mentally retarded. He tested 72 on his IQ test after his defense team told him he would be using IQ as a defense for the confession. As a matter of fact, the defenses own witness stated that Misskelley showed deception on the test...
"They subjected him to 12 hours of questioning without counsel or parental consent, audio- taping only two fragments totaling 46 minutes."
Wrong...
Misskelley was picked up in the morning and after the police met with his father, they took him to the station. During the quetioning, Misskelley gave facts that only a person who was at the scene would know. They then stopped the interview and found jessie's father and his father gave the consent for the polygraph test...
Jessie misskelley confessed to this crime only after four hours of questioning. This included the polygraph test and the time it took to get the consent from his father....
He again confessed to this crime after his conviction when he was being transported to Pine Bluff. He freely talked about his participation in the crime.
"Jessie recanted it that evening, but it was too late Misskelley, Jason Baldwin and Damien Echols were all arrested on June 3, 1993, and convicted of murder in early 1994."
Misskelley did not recant that evening.
"Although there was no physical evidence,"
Hairs, fibers, and witness testimony put Echols near the scene of the crime. A wet and muddy Echols was seen near the crime scene.
"murder weapon, motive, or connection to the victims," Echols had been hospitalized on numerous occasions for homicidal threats and bizarre thinking. His parents were concerned that he would harm them. They also stated that Echols was into "satanism" and were afraid to have him in their home.
"the prosecution pathetically resorted to presenting black hair and clothing, heavy metal t-shirts, and Stephen King novels as proof that the boys were sacrificed in a satanic cult ritual."
Actually, the prosecutor talked about his children and their penchant for heavy metal.
"Unfathomably, Echols was sentenced to death, Baldwin received life without parole, and Misskelley got life plus 40."
They should have all gotten the death penalty...
"For over 12 years, The West Memphis Three have been imprisoned for crimes they didn't commit. Echols waits in solitary confinement for the lethal injection our tax dollars will pay for. They were all condemned by their poverty, incompetent defense, satanic panic and a rush to judgment."
If you'd like, I can give you a link to Exhibit 500. This document is Echol's complete mental health record. You'll find that Echols was the cause of most of the 'satanic panic'...
"Echols, Misskelley and Baldwin submitted imprints of their teeth (after their imprisonment) and compared to the marks on Chris Byers's body; no matches were found."
There were NEVER any bite marks. The ME, Dr. Dugan, Dr. Kris Sperry, and the leading Odontologist Dr. Henry Mincer stated that the wounds were not bite marks.
As a matter of fact, the defense had to shop around to find an odontologist who would state that the wounds did appear to be bite marks. Yet, in the Rule 37 hearing, he stated that the 'bite marks' appeared to be from a child. Brent Turvey, who supposedly found the alleged bite marks had no experience in bite mark analysis and had never even been to an active crime scene....
As a matter of fact, if you remember, Kathy Bakken who is the hot little blond in the movie was taking a on-line class from brent turvey. She was working on the artwork for the film. She then called Brent Turvey after seeing the film and spent forty five minutes talking about this case. Isn't it ironic that she and Brent Turvey were both in the second film?
"Mark Byers had his teeth removed after the first trial. He has never offered a consistent reason for their removal; in one instance claiming they were knocked out in a fight, and in another saying the medication he was taking made them fall out."
I have Mark Byer's medical records, and the name of his dentist. It was some nice editing done by the film makers. I have the name of Mark's dentist and the medications he did take did cause gum disease. Mark Byers gave his dental records to the film makers. Isn't it amazing that they failed to mention this in the film?
"Christopher Byers was the only victim that had been drugged with Carbamazepine, suggesting again that he was the main focus of the attack."
I'd suggest finding out the half life of said medication. Mark was taking carbamzepine for a brain tumor. Christopher could have taken the medication by mistake since he also took mediciation. The carbamazepine was not at theraputic levels.
"That father was BLATANTLY involved somehow."
Then give us a theory regarding his involvement in the crime. It's easy to say that he killed the kids, but go ahead and look at the evening the children disappeared. See if you can put a timeline together that makes it even remotely plausable that he killed the children.
"My guess would be he was a sick F who was molesting his son, including beating and biting him."
What's actually interesting about the 'bite marks' is that the wounds were later examined by two leading wound analysis experts. Both Experts agree that the alledged bite mark has the same wound pattern as the knife found 47 feet behind Baldwin's trailor.
Yes, I have a relationship with Mark Byers. I have a two hour video interview of him where he gives me numerous documents including his medical and dental informatin. To this day I consider him a friend.
Is he a saint? Hell no....
But he didn't kill the children.
"The same police officers coerced an error-filled confession from Jessie Misskelley Jr., who is mentally handicapped."
Jessie Misskelley confessed to this crime four times. There is audio of his February Confession. What's interesting about this confession is that his own defense atty's where present when he gave this confession..
Prior to this confession, Dan Stidham had an hour long meeting with Jessie. During this meeting, Dan ran out of the room and demanded a bible. He was heard saying..
"I don't know what to do now"...
Jessie Misskelley is not mentally handicapped. He was never diagnosed as being mentally retarded. He tested 72 on his IQ test after his defense team told him he would be using IQ as a defense for the confession. As a matter of fact, the defenses own witness stated that Misskelley showed deception on the test...
"They subjected him to 12 hours of questioning without counsel or parental consent, audio- taping only two fragments totaling 46 minutes."
Wrong...
Misskelley was picked up in the morning and after the police met with his father, they took him to the station. During the quetioning, Misskelley gave facts that only a person who was at the scene would know. They then stopped the interview and found jessie's father and his father gave the consent for the polygraph test...
Jessie misskelley confessed to this crime only after four hours of questioning. This included the polygraph test and the time it took to get the consent from his father....
He again confessed to this crime after his conviction when he was being transported to Pine Bluff. He freely talked about his participation in the crime.
"Jessie recanted it that evening, but it was too late Misskelley, Jason Baldwin and Damien Echols were all arrested on June 3, 1993, and convicted of murder in early 1994."
Misskelley did not recant that evening.
"Although there was no physical evidence,"
Hairs, fibers, and witness testimony put Echols near the scene of the crime. A wet and muddy Echols was seen near the crime scene.
"murder weapon, motive, or connection to the victims," Echols had been hospitalized on numerous occasions for homicidal threats and bizarre thinking. His parents were concerned that he would harm them. They also stated that Echols was into "satanism" and were afraid to have him in their home.
"the prosecution pathetically resorted to presenting black hair and clothing, heavy metal t-shirts, and Stephen King novels as proof that the boys were sacrificed in a satanic cult ritual."
Actually, the prosecutor talked about his children and their penchant for heavy metal.
"Unfathomably, Echols was sentenced to death, Baldwin received life without parole, and Misskelley got life plus 40."
They should have all gotten the death penalty...
"For over 12 years, The West Memphis Three have been imprisoned for crimes they didn't commit. Echols waits in solitary confinement for the lethal injection our tax dollars will pay for. They were all condemned by their poverty, incompetent defense, satanic panic and a rush to judgment."
If you'd like, I can give you a link to Exhibit 500. This document is Echol's complete mental health record. You'll find that Echols was the cause of most of the 'satanic panic'...
"Echols, Misskelley and Baldwin submitted imprints of their teeth (after their imprisonment) and compared to the marks on Chris Byers's body; no matches were found."
There were NEVER any bite marks. The ME, Dr. Dugan, Dr. Kris Sperry, and the leading Odontologist Dr. Henry Mincer stated that the wounds were not bite marks.
As a matter of fact, the defense had to shop around to find an odontologist who would state that the wounds did appear to be bite marks. Yet, in the Rule 37 hearing, he stated that the 'bite marks' appeared to be from a child. Brent Turvey, who supposedly found the alleged bite marks had no experience in bite mark analysis and had never even been to an active crime scene....
As a matter of fact, if you remember, Kathy Bakken who is the hot little blond in the movie was taking a on-line class from brent turvey. She was working on the artwork for the film. She then called Brent Turvey after seeing the film and spent forty five minutes talking about this case. Isn't it ironic that she and Brent Turvey were both in the second film?
"Mark Byers had his teeth removed after the first trial. He has never offered a consistent reason for their removal; in one instance claiming they were knocked out in a fight, and in another saying the medication he was taking made them fall out."
I have Mark Byer's medical records, and the name of his dentist. It was some nice editing done by the film makers. I have the name of Mark's dentist and the medications he did take did cause gum disease. Mark Byers gave his dental records to the film makers. Isn't it amazing that they failed to mention this in the film?
"Christopher Byers was the only victim that had been drugged with Carbamazepine, suggesting again that he was the main focus of the attack."
I'd suggest finding out the half life of said medication. Mark was taking carbamzepine for a brain tumor. Christopher could have taken the medication by mistake since he also took mediciation. The carbamazepine was not at theraputic levels.
"That father was BLATANTLY involved somehow."
Then give us a theory regarding his involvement in the crime. It's easy to say that he killed the kids, but go ahead and look at the evening the children disappeared. See if you can put a timeline together that makes it even remotely plausable that he killed the children.
"My guess would be he was a sick F who was molesting his son, including beating and biting him."
What's actually interesting about the 'bite marks' is that the wounds were later examined by two leading wound analysis experts. Both Experts agree that the alledged bite mark has the same wound pattern as the knife found 47 feet behind Baldwin's trailor.
Yes, I have a relationship with Mark Byers. I have a two hour video interview of him where he gives me numerous documents including his medical and dental informatin. To this day I consider him a friend.
Is he a saint? Hell no....
But he didn't kill the children.
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i already posted it up top...
some guy sho says he is close to mark byers who he saw on a mixed martial arts forums general ground
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I never said i agreed with his position...i posted what he said because he is supposedly close to the case and i know alot of people on the MT are interested in the west memphis 3.
My comment was in support of your original post - in other words, I was hypothesizing that your source was probably just as credible as other sources often cited on this board.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Which is, imo, not very credible.
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I agree (see organizations such as commondreams.org, truthout.org)
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Wrong. Echols is Wiccan.
he's also guilty of slaughtering 3 young children.
~Michael Bolton
I can't say I often read truthout.org, but commondreams.org offers news and views and most atricle posted here are, imo, views (it could be I missed the ones where their news is posted, though).
Anyway, miller does not really offer a source, I could start a post here and say "the wm3 are not guilty, I know this because I know a guy who knows..." you get the point. His source could be as credible as commondreams.org or truthout.org, sure, but at least we can go to those sites and see what it's really about, perhaps even contact the author and ask questions...
I'd rather get my news form a source I can check, even if it is totally biased, than from some source I cannot check, because the chance is big that this source is also biased (it's my opinion most news sources are).
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Wiccans have a rede (a "golden rule" type thing):
Bide within the Law you must, in perfect Love and perfect Trust.
Live you must and let to live, fairly take and fairly give.
For tread the Circle thrice about to keep unwelcome spirits out.
To bind the spell well every time, let the spell be said in rhyme.
Light of eye and soft of touch, speak you little, listen much.
Honor the Old Ones in deed and name,
let love and light be our guides again.
Deosil go by the waxing moon, chanting out the joyful tune.
Widdershins go when the moon doth wane,
and the werewolf howls by the dread wolfsbane.
When the Lady's moon is new, kiss the hand to Her times two.
When the moon rides at Her peak then your heart's desire seek.
Heed the North winds mighty gale, lock the door and trim the sail.
When the Wind blows from the East, expect the new and set the feast.
When the wind comes from the South, love will kiss you on the mouth.
When the wind whispers from the West, all hearts will find peace and rest.
Nine woods in the Cauldron go, burn them fast and burn them slow.
Birch in the fire goes to represent what the Lady knows.
Oak in the forest towers with might, in the fire it brings the God's
insight. Rowan is a tree of power causing life and magick to flower.
Willows at the waterside stand ready to help us to the Summerland.
Hawthorn is burned to purify and to draw faerie to your eye.
Hazel-the tree of wisdom and learning adds its strength to the bright fire burning.
White are the flowers of Apple tree that brings us fruits of fertility.
Grapes grow upon the vine giving us both joy and wine.
Fir does mark the evergreen to represent immortality seen.
Elder is the Lady's tree burn it not or cursed you'll be.
Four times the Major Sabbats mark in the light and in the dark.
As the old year starts to wane the new begins, it's now Samhain.
When the time for Imbolc shows watch for flowers through the snows.
When the wheel begins to turn soon the Beltane fires will burn.
As the wheel turns to Lamas night power is brought to magick rite.
Four times the Minor Sabbats fall use the Sun to mark them all.
When the wheel has turned to Yule light the log the Horned One rules.
In the spring, when night equals day time for Ostara to come our way.
When the Sun has reached it's height time for Oak and Holly to fight.
Harvesting comes to one and all when the Autumn Equinox does fall.
Heed the flower, bush, and tree by the Lady blessed you'll be.
Where the rippling waters go cast a stone, the truth you'll know.
When you have and hold a need, harken not to others greed.
With a fool no season spend or be counted as his friend.
Merry Meet and Merry Part bright the cheeks and warm the heart.
Mind the Three-fold Laws you should three times bad and three times good.
When misfortune is enow wear the star upon your brow.
Be true in love this you must do unless your love is false to you.
These Eight words the Rede fulfill:
"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"