Transexual teacher is "normal"

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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060825/D8JN5BO00.html

Students Versed on Teacher's Sex Change Email this Story

Aug 24, 9:43 PM (ET)

BATAVIA, N.Y. (AP) - Batavia High School students will start the year with question-and-answer sessions about one of their teachers: He's undergoing a sex change.

Diagnosed with a transsexual disorder, the teacher is still going through a medical transition but will return to school in the fall dressed as a woman - and addressed as a female.

Administrators, counselors and psychologists who have received training in gender identity issues will hold the forums with students when the school year opens on Sept. 6.

Superintendent Richard Stutzman said Thursday he hoped the discussions, to be followed by a meeting open to the public, will keep the issue from becoming a distraction in the classroom or at school functions.

"What we're asking people to do is come to the meetings to learn more about it," Stutzman told The Daily News of Batavia, adding that the district was withholding the teacher's identity on medical privacy grounds.

"The kids are my biggest concern right now. I want to make sure that we truly address the needs of our students," he said.

Stutzman also scheduled a meeting for staff and parents Monday to outline the medical and legal concerns surrounding gender transformation. Under state and federal laws, a person with a transsexual disorder is considered disabled and protected from discrimination and must be reasonably accommodated by an employer.

"I'm not saying people will accept this, but at least there will be an understanding," Stutzman said. "I feel the more people learn about this, people will understand."
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  • EchoesEchoes Posts: 1,279
    Cool. Hope it works out well for the teacher
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ha, I bet you'd like this prank call to Mr. Bergis re: a gay school.

    But I think, people with mental disorders shouldn't be teaching kids in school.
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  • This should be interesting... I imagine that an angry group of parents will start spazzing about this. I can't wait to see Hannity & O'Reilly get on this one.

    This could be a very difficult transition for the teacher, the school, and the students, but I'd hope that most high school students would be mature enough to deal with this. Open and honest discussion and education on the subject would help a lot.
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  • This should be interesting... I imagine that an angry group of parents will start spazzing about this. I can't wait to see Hannity & O'Reilly get on this one.

    This could be a very difficult transition for the teacher, the school, and the students, but I'd hope that most high school students would be mature enough to deal with this. Open and honest discussion and education on the subject would help a lot.
    I agree.

    O Riley is going to go out of his way to make an ass of himself if he hears about this one.

    Hope things go well for that teacher.
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  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    There is no possible way that this person can be of sound mind. I would never try and stop someone from doing what they want with their own bodies, but I find it 100% impossible to believe that this person can be mentally balanced. Too much shit gotta be going on in "Pat"s head to be fit to teach our youth. And to allow a person with this kind of mental baggage to teach, is just encouraging the homosexualisation of America.

    "Hello class, I'm Mr. _______ your teacher."

    "I'm going to be going on little vacation class, Ill be back in a few weeks."

    "Hello class, now I'm Mrs. ________ I missed you"


    Unreal.
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  • And to allow a person with this kind of mental baggage to teach, is just encouraging the homosexualisation of America.

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but the dude (soon to be dudette) isn't gay, he's transgendered. There's a difference, I'm pretty sure. Anyway, I'm not sure how this will lead to the "homosexualisation of America"...
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  • mpg82mpg82 Posts: 83
    I don't know if transsexuals usually have other emotional problems besides believing they are the opposite sex. But I'd think this man has some SERIOUS mental health problems. I know it would be discrimination to fire this guy because he has a problem, but is the type of job someone with his issues should have? High school students are smart enough to understand what this guys problem is. It's not like he's with little kids where they'd be scared of him and wouldn't understand why he dresses like a woman. I say let him teach.

    The kids are going to give him a real hard time about it. I don't know how I'd react if I had a transsexual teacher. I'd be disgusted at first, but am not sure if I'd eventually just deal with it and listen to him teach instead. This is certainly going to be a distraction to the typical student, but maybe it will teach them to become more accepting of that group of people.

    Imagine how difficult it would be for this guy to try and get a job after he severs his manhood. He was smart for getting the job first, and then doing the operation because there's no way in hell they hire a transexual on the spot. Too much taboo on the topic.

    People think they're all sexual predators and deviants because that's what they show transsexuals doing on TV. I was in New Orleans when I was 13 and some crossdresser walked up to me and gave me a playing card, like a ten of clubs, with a naked girl on it. That grossed me out, not the naked woman, but the man dressed as a woman who gave it to me. On one hand I wanted to check it out, but I dropped it on the ground and stepped on it because a dirty pedophile freak handed it to me. It's these people who ruin it for them. You know, the ones who are 6'5" 350lb, wearing tight purple dresses with feathers wrapped around their necks. They go around flaunting themselves and scaring normal (non-transexual) people away.
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  • Not to put too fine a point on it, but the dude (soon to be dudette) isn't gay, he's transgendered. There's a difference, I'm pretty sure. Anyway, I'm not sure how this will lead to the "homosexualisation of America"...
    anyone who uses that term must be a parody.

    Either that or completely insane (bill o riley and rush limbaugh).

    :rolleyes:

    I can't take someone seriously with little catchphrases like that. Nice for scaring the old folks, but not much more.
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  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    I knew you guys would like that one. ;)
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  • anyone who uses that term must be a parody.

    Either that or completely insane (bill o riley and rush limbaugh).

    :rolleyes:

    I can't take someone seriously with little catchphrases like that. Nice for scaring the old folks, but not much more.


    I prefer the term "homosinuality", from Mr. Show.
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    So......you know.......does she have nice boobies?
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    So now the kids who were wondering if they themselves are gay and thought the teacher was hot before. What is going to become of their mental states?
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    even flow? wrote:
    So now the kids who were wondering if they themselves are gay and thought the teacher was hot before. What is going to become of their mental states?

    They'll learn like most kids do.

    Boys: If you kiss a girl and touch her boobie, and you like it; and/or get a woody- then you're hetrosexual. If you fantasize about other boys, you're a homosexual.

    Girls: If you kiss a boy and you get all "dreamy", "lovey-dovey" and turned-on; you're hetrossexual. If you fantasize about kissing girls and want to touch some boobies, other than you own; you're a homosexual.

    Boy and Girls: If you fantasize about intimate moments with both males and females, then, you're bisexual.

    Easy as that.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Mental Disorder, what part is not understood?

    Introduction

    Hormonal treatment of transsexual subjects constitutes an important part of their gender reassignment. This thesis describes our observations over 13 years of the side effects and metabolic changes occurring during cross-gender hormonal treatment. The study was done at the outpatient clinic for Andrology at the Free University Hospital, Amsterdam.

    The first part of the chapter provides a general introduction to the field of gender dysphoria: definition of gender dysphoria, transsexualism, clinical criteria, etiological concepts, historical notes, and epidemiology.

    The second part analyzes results of gender reassignment treatment reported in the literature. The management adopted in our clinic is described and an overview of the different hormone schedules and their effects is presented. Finally the scope and the aims of the studies reported in this thesis are presented.

    Definitions

    Transsexualism is the condition in which a person with an apparently normal somatic sexual differentiation has the conviction that he or she is actually a member of the opposite sex. This conviction which is accompanied by a profound sense of loathing for individuals's own primary and secondary sexual characteristics, is absolute, overwhelming and unalterable (1). The sense of belonging to a particular sex, not only biologically but also psychologically and socially, is called gender identity.
    http://www.xs4all.nl/~txtbreed/gender/gooren.html

    Could it be the science?!?!?!?
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    As Neil Peart once said (through Geddy Lee's voice).......


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  • I prefer the term "homosinuality", from Mr. Show.
    hahahha

    oh David Cross... :p
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    this teacher is gonig to have one shitty year.
  • I wouldn't have a problem with this teacher teaching me. She (she is the correct pronoun to use) deserves as much of a life as anyone else, and I don't see how her transsexuality makes her any less deserving to be a teacher.

    As for the homosexualisation of America, that's so dumb it's funny. Sexual preference is different from gender identification, people.

    Being transsexual does not = being gay.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I wouldn't have a problem with this teacher teaching me. She (she is the correct pronoun to use) deserves as much of a life as anyone else, and I don't see how her transsexuality makes her any less deserving to be a teacher.

    As for the homosexualisation of America, that's so dumb it's funny. Sexual preference is different from gender identification, people.

    Being transsexual does not = being gay.

    No being transsexual is not being gay but they are both sexual disorders resulting from hormonal imbalances.

    Never-the-less it seems teachers aren't required to meet any specifications.
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  • marviomarvio Posts: 3
    There is no possible way that this person can be of sound mind. I would never try and stop someone from doing what they want with their own bodies, but I find it 100% impossible to believe that this person can be mentally balanced. Too much shit gotta be going on in "Pat"s head to be fit to teach our youth. And to allow a person with this kind of mental baggage to teach, is just encouraging the homosexualisation of America.

    "Hello class, I'm Mr. _______ your teacher."

    "I'm going to be going on little vacation class, Ill be back in a few weeks."

    "Hello class, now I'm Mrs. ________ I missed you"


    Unreal.

    The tongue is the worst weapon ever created. We lash at one another with our bigot remarks and hateful statements. We seperate each other due to our differences, not realizing the differences are part of our world. So here you have this woman, this teacher, who was unfortunate to be born in the wrong body. Her genitals do not coinside with her gender. If we were to get educated on how a fetus develops, in terms of gender and sex, then we would understand the struggles a transsexual individual goes through. Well, your in luck, I will provide you with the answers. A typical development begins at 8 weeks time inside our mother's womb. Our brains get hard wired to be a boy or girl brain, depending on the avaiability of androgen. Until 8 weeks time, fetuses are neutral and would develop as a female, this is the default system. So, when the Y chromosome enters the picture, this chromosome communicates with a gene that is responsible for the influx of hormones that will hard wire the brain as a boy brain. Following the pathway down south, receptors waiting for the relay message, will then commence the development of the gonads, reproductive organs, and finally the genitals. If all goes well, gender=male and physical sex=testes, penis, should align. What happens when the message gets construde? The brain develops one way, the physical sex into another. There are many combination of premuations that take place. It's a matter of fact 65,000 children are born a year with some form of mix up. We need to get our heads out of the ground, and become educated on the issue. This is not a life style or a choice, this is mother nature gone wild. Now, we can't put all the blame on her, we have created a multitude of endocrine disrupting chemicals that alter the natural path of events. We will be seeing and hearing more about this.

    A person knows their gender identity by the time they are 3 years of age. So parents listen to your children, according the the Merck Manual, a child knows if they are a boy or a girl as young as 18 -24 months of age. This has nothing to do with sexual preference, but all to do with a persons identity. Their gender identity. So please try to understand, and put yourself in our shoes, it's not our fault that our brain and physical sex do not match. Be compassionate, and educated, and don't let bigotry govern your heart. Transsexuality is not a sin, a crime, nor is it deviant behavior. It is however, a birth defect created at 8 weeks time in our mothers womb, where the brain and the body failed to communicate. So mothers at Batavia High School, do not worry, the teacher is fine mentally, biologically, she will be fine soon, when she gets her surgeries. This is not a mental condition, it is a biological one. Do the homework and the research before you start making false statements.

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  • miller8966 wrote:
    WHat a sick society we live in.....

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060825/D8JN5BO00.html

    Students Versed on Teacher's Sex Change Email this Story

    Aug 24, 9:43 PM (ET)

    BATAVIA, N.Y. (AP) - Batavia High School students will start the year with question-and-answer sessions about one of their teachers: He's undergoing a sex change.

    Diagnosed with a transsexual disorder, the teacher is still going through a medical transition but will return to school in the fall dressed as a woman - and addressed as a female.

    Administrators, counselors and psychologists who have received training in gender identity issues will hold the forums with students when the school year opens on Sept. 6.

    Superintendent Richard Stutzman said Thursday he hoped the discussions, to be followed by a meeting open to the public, will keep the issue from becoming a distraction in the classroom or at school functions.

    "What we're asking people to do is come to the meetings to learn more about it," Stutzman told The Daily News of Batavia, adding that the district was withholding the teacher's identity on medical privacy grounds.

    "The kids are my biggest concern right now. I want to make sure that we truly address the needs of our students," he said.

    Stutzman also scheduled a meeting for staff and parents Monday to outline the medical and legal concerns surrounding gender transformation. Under state and federal laws, a person with a transsexual disorder is considered disabled and protected from discrimination and must be reasonably accommodated by an employer.

    "I'm not saying people will accept this, but at least there will be an understanding," Stutzman said. "I feel the more people learn about this, people will understand."


    You know if more people were welcoming and understanding to transsexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals,and etc. We wouldnt live in such a violent world. Oh and everyone remember the Columbine incident, there must be someone who sill thinks manson caused it if that someone is you--go to hell.
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  • Ahnimus wrote:
    No being transsexual is not being gay but they are both sexual disorders resulting from hormonal imbalances.

    Never-the-less it seems teachers aren't required to meet any specifications.


    Interesting I've never heard that homosexuality was a result of hormonal imbalances. Where did you hear that?

    If this guy/gal wants to get his/her plumbing changed fine, but take some time away to get used to the change. Otherwise kids are going to be spending more time concentrating on their teachers big change then the subject material.

    It seems that if this were any other type of mental disorder the school would probably not allow the teacher to teach, why is this one allowed to?
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    I'm still wondering if he/she has nice titties.
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    No being transsexual is not being gay but they are both sexual disorders resulting from hormonal imbalances.

    Never-the-less it seems teachers aren't required to meet any specifications.

    You choose to characterize it as a disorder. None of the stuff you posted in regards to hormonal therapy ever used the word "disorder".
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    What, I can't ask about the titties?

    Geeeeeeez....someone's awfully sensitive, today:rolleyes:
  • marviomarvio Posts: 3
    Interesting I've never heard that homosexuality was a result of hormonal imbalances. Where did you hear that?

    If this guy/gal wants to get his/her plumbing changed fine, but take some time away to get used to the change. Otherwise kids are going to be spending more time concentrating on their teachers big change then the subject material.

    It seems that if this were any other type of mental disorder the school would probably not allow the teacher to teach, why is this one allowed to?


    Because its not a mental disorder, its biological in nature. Part of the therpay is to live as the gender you are transcending to, and that includes working. You don't expect her to go on welfare? We must pay our bills in the meantime. Life goes on, the only changes are the physical ones that will align with our heart, soul and mind. Read the following link, it really explains things.

    http://www.gires.org.uk/Web_Page_Assets/Gender_Dysphoria.htm


    The kids will get over it, it will be old news. There are over 5 million of us in the world and the numbers are climbing. check out my website
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  • humanlighthumanlight Posts: 271
    And to allow a person with this kind of mental baggage to teach, is just encouraging the homosexualisation of America.

    .


    I dissagree...how does having your "thing" cut off correlate with homosexuality?
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